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My hands are sweaty or wet very often. Touch ID never works because of this. Not to mention you can turn off attention awareness so your eyes don't need to be looking at the screen. Face ID is just far superior. i can't believe people miss Touch ID
Well, with a name like "Juiceboy," I certainly understand why your hands are always sweaty or wet. Stop juicing fruits and vegetables!
 
It’s the mate 20 pro that has the 3D facial recognition. The P20 Pro (shown in this video) is a different phone and only has 2D facial recognition.

It's almost like people rushing to make a phone look bad don't always take the time to make sure they know what they're talking about.

Also note that this thread uses the phrase "they copied Apple" by some of the same people that state any other company puts a technology in just to make sure that they can say they did it first and it doesn't matter because their side did it better.
 
Yep they must have copied the technology that Apple BOUGHT. There is no way that another company could have bought a similar technology or innovated themselves. If they had copied Face ID they would be getting sued. Apple have sued Samsung for much less.

I don't mean "steal patented tech" or anything bad. My mean of "copied technology" is using actual hardware for 3d scan instead of useless 2D photo compare. It's pretty cool that Huawei did it ahead of Samsung or Google.

But they delivered this in a time when Face ID is proven to be really secure, that's why I'm bringing attention to their huge security problems. Android have a long road to bring it to Apple level of trust.

It has been cracked by relatives and even unrelated people of Asian origin.
I really don't believe it, it's so good for "Facegate" article which can draw a lot of attention, but no-one is speculating about it. Instead Face ID is used for payments, for locking banking apps and no one is yelling about insecurity.

And even if Face ID can be "fooled" with relatives like you described - it's pretty hard to find matching similar person for real-life hack. While Touch ID 1) can be scanned on unconsciousness/sleeping person and 2) copy can be created from trace.
 
No need.... your face is photographed pretty much every time you go out in public.
From traffic cameras to CCTV cams in stores, security cameras at work, and let's not forget all those pics everyone plasters all over social media.
Oh and that government issued ID or Drivers License... I really don't think the NSA cares about this new feature.
They know what you look like. ;)
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Still one of the features I miss about my old phone. Not having to stare at it to unlock it.
Fingerprint was fast and discrete.

There's a difference of photographing a face on street and then trying to find out who does it belong to by comparing low res face phots, and having everything nicely sorted, and having detailed 3D map of someone's face.


You can just run a for loop through the dictionary of faces and names, it is so convenient.
 
MR: "Right now, there are Android devices that are using 2D facial recognition techniques to replace a passcode, but none of those systems are based on 3D face scans like Face ID. Facial recognition used by Android right now is more rudimentary and easily fooled, which is why Android devices continue to use fingerprint sensors for operations that need more security like payments."

This is simply untrue. Some Huawei phones (P20 Pro) have the same face recognition system as iPhone. It was released soon after iPhone X (March 2018) so all claims about Apple being "years ahead" of Android in this regards are bogus.

P20 Pro? Bad example; this is simply untrue. It’s not a 3D IR-based Face ID system. They did copy the notch though, so there’s that. *shrug*
 

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P20 Pro? Bad example;

There is Mate 20 Pro with hardware for 3D scan, I learnt it today.

Apparently, they are very bad at naming. Reminds me struggle of choosing Xiaomi for a friend - redmi/mi/s/max/etc.
 
MR: "Right now, there are Android devices that are using 2D facial recognition techniques to replace a passcode, but none of those systems are based on 3D face scans like Face ID. Facial recognition used by Android right now is more rudimentary and easily fooled, which is why Android devices continue to use fingerprint sensors for operations that need more security like payments."

This is simply untrue. Some Huawei phones (P20 Pro) have the same face recognition system as iPhone. It was released soon after iPhone X (March 2018) so all claims about Apple being "years ahead" of Android in this regards are bogus.

Exactly. Apple ensures its uniqueness through dumping money into acquiring all assets surrounding a technology until enough time has passed they can no longer be threatened. I no longer work in that field for them but they pretty much scoop up anything they can and hold it hostage whether they use it or not. A lot of this stuff has been matured technology in other fields that nobody invested in for the mobile market. Apple just writes the biggest checks every time.
 
MR: "Right now, there are Android devices that are using 2D facial recognition techniques to replace a passcode, but none of those systems are based on 3D face scans like Face ID. Facial recognition used by Android right now is more rudimentary and easily fooled, which is why Android devices continue to use fingerprint sensors for operations that need more security like payments."

This is simply untrue. Some Huawei phones (P20 Pro) have the same face recognition system as iPhone. It was released soon after iPhone X (March 2018) so all claims about Apple being "years ahead" of Android in this regards are bogus.
Also the Mi 8 Explorer which was launched in May 2018.
 
Honestly I don't see what the fuss with facial unlocking is. I like fingerprint unlocking better. Its faster and easier, and the technology is a lot more mature.
 
Honestly I don't see what the fuss with facial unlocking is. I like fingerprint unlocking better. Its faster and easier, and the technology is a lot more mature.
I think people misinterpret FaceID. The idea isn't to spend time analyzing how it works or whether it's slower than TouchID or not. The idea is that it blurs the perception of needing authentication at all to unlock your phone.

I think what Apple was going for was using FaceID to take care of all the security stuff behind the scenes so you don't have too. It removes having to think about authenticating to access something because faceID has already detected that it is you.
What you're left with is a phone that is as easy to access as one without a passcode. No longer do you have to go through security checks because it is all done automatically. It seems pretty seamless when it works, based on my experiences with my iPad Pro, but it's definitely not without its limitations.
 
While I applaud any measure that makes a user's information more secure, it's still laughable since the biggest hole in android is android itself.

But hey, since you can't beat them, copy them, right?
 
While I applaud any measure that makes a user's information more secure, it's still laughable since the biggest hole in android is android itself.

But hey, since you can't beat them, copy them, right?

Can't beat what and copy what exactly?
And actually Android OEMs are busy with more interesting things like:

 
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Can't beat what and copy what exactly?
And actually Android OEMs are busy with more interesting things like:

Very cool. Not as cool as raising my phone and having it unlock without doing anything. I can then see my notifications with no additional action needed. YMMV.

It seems android is building a better mousetrap.
 
It's almost like people rushing to make a phone look bad don't always take the time to make sure they know what they're talking about.

Also note that this thread uses the phrase "they copied Apple" by some of the same people that state any other company puts a technology in just to make sure that they can say they did it first and it doesn't matter because their side did it better.
When an android OEM has a desirable feature on their phone there are only 3 possible reasons on this forum:

They copied Apple.

They heard rumours Apple were going to release the same feature so they rushed it out to beat Apple.

Apple don’t do things first they do things right.
 
Very cool. Not as cool as raising my phone and having it unlock without doing anything. I can then see my notifications with no additional action needed. YMMV.
Well I would say it's way cooler to be able to unlock the phone without needing to raise it to your face in the first place(and you still have to swipe up to get to the home screen).
You just touch the screen anywhere.
Also with Android you have Always On Display which is again way cooler.
It seems android is building a better mousetrap.
They are building better solutions than face id.
 
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First of all, this quote makes it seem like no one is capable of engineering something like the pitiful and ugly TrueDepth camera. I mean, maybe, just maybe Samsung/Google/whatever aren't interested in gimmicks like Apple is. That's what FaceID is. It's a gimmick. Fingerprint is way more secure and easier and companies like Samsung are investing in under-glass fingerprint readers—something Apple FAILED to do because they can't engineer their way out of a paper bag.
Lol so Face ID is a gimmick yet fingerprint scanner isn’t? Whatever fits your agenda

And secure and google don’t really go together
 
Well I would say it's way cooler to be able to unlock the phone without needing to raise it to your face in the first place(and you still have to swipe up to get to the home screen).
You just touch the screen anywhere.
Also with Android you have Always On Display which is again way cooler.
Don’t have to touch the phone to see my notifications.

They are building better solutions than face id.
Seems like a better mousetrap to me. As was discussed the definition of innovation is fluid.
 
I think people misinterpret FaceID. The idea isn't to spend time analyzing how it works or whether it's slower than TouchID or not. The idea is that it blurs the perception of needing authentication at all to unlock your phone.

I think what Apple was going for was using FaceID to take care of all the security stuff behind the scenes so you don't have too. It removes having to think about authenticating to access something because faceID has already detected that it is you.
What you're left with is a phone that is as easy to access as one without a passcode. No longer do you have to go through security checks because it is all done automatically. It seems pretty seamless when it works, based on my experiences with my iPad Pro, but it's definitely not without its limitations.

Admittedly I've never used FaceID or facial recognition on Android. But having owned an iPhone 5S and several Android phones with fingerprint unlocking, its hard to imagine FaceID being that much more seamless. On my current phone I just have to lightly brush my thumb against the scanner as I take it out of my pocket and its unlocked by the time its out of my pocket.
 
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