Someone else mentioned that RCS seems to be more of an initiative within the US. If that’s the case and it requires carriers to make changes to there technology, then it doesn’t seem like Apple is there last holdout. Rather, is a US-centric thing.
Google Exec Pushing RCS Adoption Says He's 'Not Asking Apple to Make iMessage Available on Android'
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Someone else mentioned that RCS seems to be more of an initiative within the US. If that’s the case and it requires carriers to make changes to there technology, then it doesn’t seem like Apple is there last holdout. Rather, is a US-centric thing.
Why? Because it’s NOT personal.
MrCrowbar
macrumors 68020
My iMessage log is mostly missed call notifications, booking confirmations and 2FA codes.
Over here it's WhatsApp for generic people and/or big groups
Signal for my nerd buddies or if it's confidential
If you're trying to write me on Telegram, I know you're probably shady or a creep so your contact name usually gets prefixed by a ? and notifications turned off. Sometimes it's useful when you're not comfy with giving out your phone number.
There's lots of cross-platform ways to message around, let iMessage be the bubble it is.
Over here it's WhatsApp for generic people and/or big groups
Signal for my nerd buddies or if it's confidential
If you're trying to write me on Telegram, I know you're probably shady or a creep so your contact name usually gets prefixed by a ? and notifications turned off. Sometimes it's useful when you're not comfy with giving out your phone number.
There's lots of cross-platform ways to message around, let iMessage be the bubble it is.
The Game 161
macrumors Nehalem
Certainly been a big topic this week on this and the impact of teen bulling due to not having those blue bubbles. Obviously clearly a US issue than a worldwide issue.
Ramchi
macrumors 65816
iMessages are very specific to USA region. Most of the world using many options.
Definitely a US-way to approach a problem. Bullying? Let's blame the tech and find another tech to "solve" it. Forget about actual parenting and teaching children.
Literally every single thing is tracked in WeChat, and I have a hard time believing that Facebook is E2E like they say. If WhatsApp is actually E2E, then at the very least importing your contacts allows for cross-reference data harvesting. Signal is probably the best, but the video/audio calls aren't too great at the moment.
cdarlington1
macrumors 6502
Maybe he should try not insulting Apple because they won’t do what he says. That might help. What a douche.
cdarlington1
macrumors 6502
I won’t use anything but iMessage and SMS.
Unregistered 4U
macrumors G4
For Apple to be interoperable with Google, it would most effectively need to be handled by the carriers, the same way SMS is. International carriers aren’t going to adopt it. As with many things, the devil’s in the details, it’s not as simple as “support RCS as a superset to SMS/MMS”. So it’s a good idea in theory that sounds pretty much dead.
This isn't an open communication standard... it's closed, just like iMessage, with a different Warden who has dubious motives.
Wanted797
macrumors 68000
I just want Apple to do this to improve image quality. Most my family use android (much to my dismay but they I at least am not tech support). The worst part is sending photos. I usually have to resort to Facebook messenger.
Most android friends now use Signal. But the family doesn’t.
Most android friends now use Signal. But the family doesn’t.
Apple CAN NOT launch their own RCS network and have it interoperable with Google's. It's a closed network, and Google does not release the API. That's why all the other RCS apps that exist can't send messages to Google Messages... or to each other for that matter. It's a series of closed user groups. If Apple were to launch their own RCS network, they'd be in the identical situation Google is whining about here - a network only able to communicate to other Apple devices -- and iMessage is far superior to RCS in every respect, so why bother?
RCS messages are encrypted IN TRANSIT only. Once that message is at-rest on your device, it absolutely is being harvested for data.
Also, group chats are not encrypted at all. Only on a 1:1 basis as you've noted, but again, only in transit.
RCS is sub-optimal, and even moreso with Google holding the keys. It's a situation that could only be made worse if it were Facebook pushing this solution.
nycgeo
macrumors 6502
The whole point of the gross green bubbles is to reinforce the stereotype of the “other”, the weird and uncool android. I realize their game and even I have subconsciously adopted these feelings when I see someone text me anew and it’s a green bubble with MM-less links. It’s not a bug, it’s a feature. And apple wants you to feel this way
emulator
macrumors 6502a
exactly, for me imessage is just another icon in the 'useless undeletable shlte' folder.Or Apple could allow other apps that support RCS to be your primary text/sms app for your carrier and you could delete iMessage.
LV426
macrumors 68000
Nonsense. The standard is owned by the GSM Association that represents 750 mobile operators worldwide. How many companies have a say on the direction of travel for iMessage?
Try to send a photo, or especially a video, at any reasonable quality, over MMS, and tell me if it's still a successful experience.
SMS is fine and is more than acceptable as a fallback, but it should be behind RCS in the tier in my opinion. Apple should support RCS as soon as possible. It's a much better experience for their users who converse with Android users.
Klongeiger
macrumors newbie
No Facebook, No Insta, No WhatsApp. Meta is evil.
WeChat is basically a surveillance tool for the Chinese government.
Apple should implement OpenWhisper into Messages like they did with SMS and previously with ICQ, AIM and Jabber in iChat. Now, those are antiquated.
iMessage isn’t, as the controversies origins suggest: apparently, 70% of US customers aged 18 to 24 use iPhones just because they use iMessages.