Google Expected to Unveil New Pixel 4 Smartphone at October 15 Event

[realtuner]

"ecosystem"

Android is an OS, the ecosystem is open standards, which is the most powerful and superior of all.

You know what I meant. Fisher Price Apps from developers who can’t be bothered to innovate.

But hey, you can always try to list off some powerful Apps on Android. We know what happened last time.

 

[Amazing Iceman]

surely this is the only way you can see the notch? It’s extra screen space on either side that would have been lost to bezel otherwise. I’m not sure how you could see it any other way.

I already stated how I see the notch. Other people see it like lost display area.

 

[jav6454]

This complaint is like saying race cars all look the same. Yeah they do because they’re designed for the same purpose. The back looks like that because engineers decided it was an efficient way to package the cameras. Who cares anyway? All these phones look the same because they’re all mature products.

Who says I am complaining. Merely pointing out the obvious.

 

[eroslws]

Apple copied low light mode for the camera. Before, apple had no idea how to do low light mode or even think that is what people wanted.

I think this is what people are somehow ignoring. Apple made a huge deal about the iPhone X having this amazing camera and Google followed up with Pixel 2 with an objectively better camera. Then Apple tried again with the XS and failed to beat the Pixel 2. Pixel 3 was an embarrassment for Apple in terms of camera quality; the 11 is competing with last year's tech.

This Verge article really sums up Apple's game right now, which I don't see changing. Despite my opinion, I don't plan on buying a Pixel 4 either over an iPhone 11 Pro, I'm just self-aware enough to realize I'm not buying the best phone, I'm buying the best one for my own use.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/19/17878018/iphone-xs-x-pixel-2-galaxy-s9-camera-comparison

 

[macduke]

...that's an oddly specific use-case and is obvious hyperbole at the same time...

not sure if you're just being annoying or you're diverting attention from the fact that you might be the creep...

Lol, I've never even used Snapchat. I'm married, have two kids, and am in my 30s. But I've read articles on tech sites in the past talking about the APIs that Snap tries to implement to prevent this and understand why it is an issue.

 

[shpankey]

That depends on if you are willing to switch ecosystems.

Personally, I don't care one iota about the stupid notch and I don't think tons of people do either. I care more about performance, stability and usability. There are many features of Android that I like but also many issues that totally justify staying with iOS.

I would love to see "innovation" but at this point I don't see ANYONE actually innovating, it's all simply iterative. Features that android has had are only "new" if you switch systems, but then something iOS has that android does not is now missing.

I really don't know what else I expect from this device (or others), if someone wants to tell me what innovation they would like to see (real innovation, not "remove the notch") I would love to see other ideas.

The hands free gesture thing sounds pretty innovative to me. If done right and with a universal implementation it could be a really nice innovation in the future. Google did better cameras and Night Mode first, the latter of which was also innovative, both of which are now being duplicated by the competition, including Apple.

That's the thing though, you can't ask for a list of "innovations". If they were that obvious and easy, it would already be happening. Steve Jobs innovated cell phones with the first iPhone. Nobody up to that point thought of it. Instead we had flip phones and blackberry's with full tiny keyboards and people thought phones had reached their technological ceiling. Innovations are definitely out there to be had... so they will come. Just because we can't list them now doesn't mean there are none.

You have to give it to Google for actually giving us some innovations of late. Night Mode and possibly this touch-free gesture capability (or whatever they're calling it). It could be the start of an eventual 'must have' feature. It's still too early to tell, but it's intriguing and innovative, even if it doesn't realize its full potential immediately.

 

[Abazigal]

Looks like the issue many of the critics have here is that they essentially play down or flat out ignore the ecosystem benefits altogether.

An android phone is not compatible with an Apple Watch, nor will it share app purchases with my iPad. It won’t have any of the Apple-only service such as news, Apple Arcade or the Apple Card, or the iOS only Apple like tweetbot, overcast, Apollo and fantastical.

Talk of comparatively higher iPhone prices skirt round the fact that they tend to hold their resale value better, and enjoy longer software support.

Sure, if you use largely platform-agnostic services, all these might not be an issue, but in the end, I find that the value proposition of Apple devices for me is that while they do cost more upfront, they pay for themselves in the form of better productivity and fewer issues overall.

 

[Expos of 1969]

Does it at least have a warning label on the back?
"Warning: Android OS is a data vacuum and nothing you do will be private".

When will Apple be putting its warning label on the back of iPhones?
"Warning: Tim says what happens on this phone stays on this phone, but this is possibly a lie".

 

[digthewell]

Does Google have anything going for itself except for the camera? If other companies catch up in the camera game, their phones are just expensive pieces of hardware being sold by other companies for 1/2 the price.

 

[Trader05]

Haha, you sound like a “speccie” who seems to have no clue about usability. Let me guess... Student who is still competing with other who has the biggest?

It was a joke and I was not serious. Hence “examples for laughs”. Its all user preference with phones.