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Google Following in Apple's Footsteps With Songza Purchase
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Poorly rated headphones? How about you check out the reviews for their latest products first before you speak so publicly and decisively?
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Yeah, Google copied third party keyboards, widgets, notification center, control center. They are unscrupulous.
Finally someone realised it
Google ripped off swype keyboards and a plethora of jailbreak tweaks and third party apps and slap their brand on them and then accuse others of following them for having the same products. So pathetic Google.
HobeSoundDarryl
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How about a link to some objective source that is rating those latest products? I've read tons of reviews and they generally side against Beats. So I'd like to see something objective and different than the norm. If you are aware of such a review, please share that link.
We need to do away with this whole "copy" argument. Most people use that word without understanding what it really means or putting it in context.
Finally someone realised it
Google ripped off swype keyboards and a plethora of jailbreak tweaks and third party apps and slap their brand on them and then accuse others of following them for having the same products. So pathetic Google.
Nice winky faces. But ridiculous none the less.
This makes Beats a great purchase. The user base was not the deal but the brand. Everyone knows Beats and what they do....this company Google has purchased is leaving the majority going who?
The experience and talent they have gotten in this deal has worked well for Apple too. Dre is talented and has expertise of use.
The experience and talent they have gotten in this deal has worked well for Apple too. Dre is talented and has expertise of use.
Hmmm
You know - I don't think "known" is all that important when/if you're talking about technology/etc. For a consumer product - perhaps. But if something is rebranded - it won't matter. And if it's something on the backend that the acquisition is made for - the customer won't care except for added features and benefits.
How many customers do you think knew what Siri was before Apple bought it compared to now?
Can the average person tell you what company did a lot of the legwork behind Apple's Touch ID?
Exactly... WTF do I care what Google does? Good on them. Cool story...
I don't even use their search engine let alone other services.
Google Following in Apple's Footsteps With Songza Purchase
Yet you clicked on this thread anyway.
Yet you clicked on this thread anyway.
That's always the funny part, isn't it.
Much like someone in a forum telling another to get a life lol
I'm not discounting those reviews. But can you link to any audiophile reviews. Reviewers from publications that specialize in A/V vs mobile or a potpourri of things?
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Yeah, Google copied third party keyboards, widgets, notification center, control center. They are unscrupulous.
Slow clap for Google's boatload of designers and engineers coming up with some good software ideas they can bring to a portion of the 4,000 Android devices out there by 100 different manufacturers.
The thing it doesn't change is that all of the effort that gets put into Android is solely designed to maintain a user base to mine data from so they can sell more ads to advertisers. It's called pay-per-click and display revenue. It's what Google is. They're not in the electronics business like Apple.
Google has no clue why they bought it.
Google has no clue why they bought a music service. Now google will wait for Apples next move and copy the same. Certainly Apple didn't buy Beats just for talent... there must be other strategy in place. Google may have to wait around to see and then do the same.
"Google the fastest copier in the world can even copy your undies if they were leading.
Google has no clue why they bought a music service. Now google will wait for Apples next move and copy the same. Certainly Apple didn't buy Beats just for talent... there must be other strategy in place. Google may have to wait around to see and then do the same.
"Google the fastest copier in the world can even copy your undies if they were leading.
You know I never understand this kind of elitism when it comes to consumer electronic products. So these reviewers say good things about this product, but you're so quick to point out that they're not "audiophiles" hence their opinions are somehow not worth the same as those of "audiophiles". Everyone has a different taste in music and surely how it sounds. Who are these "publications that specialize in A/V vs mobile or a potpourri of things" to say that how people listen to music is wrong, discounting other factors such as build quality, brand, design, etc.? It's kinda ironic that had the world filled with this kinda of attitude Apple would have not been successful and that would have been a shame.
Actually, that first review isn't that glowing, when you get to the part about the sound. (which is at the end of the review, which should tell you where the focus is when it comes to all things Beats.) Basically says, "there's a lot of bass. That could be good or bad."
I didn't look at the other two.
Wow.
You know I never understand this kind of elitism when it comes to consumer electronic products. So these reviewers say good things about this product, but you're so quick to point out that they're not "audiophiles" hence their opinions are somehow not worth the same as those of "audiophiles". Everyone has a different taste in music and surely how it sounds. Who are these "publications that specialize in A/V vs mobile or a potpourri of things" to say that how people listen to music is wrong, discounting other factors such as build quality, brand, design, etc.? It's kinda ironic that had the world filled with this kinda of attitude Apple would have not been successful and that would have been a shame.
I never said their reviews weren't of merit, now did I? In fact I said specifically that I wasn't discounting them. I was asking if you had seen any from audio specific sites or reviewers. Eyeroll all you want - I'm joining in based on your fabulously crafted strawman.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Thank you for the links. Perhaps I just interpret what's written there differently. Here's a few excerpts from those reviews...
The tests confirm what I actual hear when listening to my favorite songs. My subjective experience is the new Beats are extremely heavy on the bass, while the treble has issues reaching the higher levels at times.
The vocal sound is not as clear as you would expect from headphones within this price as well.
Within this price range, you are able to find other headphones that can achieve the same results and yet provide a more balanced sound.
The Beats Solo 2 also inherit some of the audio improvements made by the company in its latest generation of headphones. Don’t get me wrong: I use a pair of Sennheiser HD 598 open headphones at home and the difference in quality is astounding.
If you don’t care about fashion, you can find cheaper headphones that offer similar performance
And then this one is most favorable to your point, but I have to question the objectivity of a site dedicated to Apple writing a review after Apple has purchased Beats. That's like claiming objectivity here… and yet here "we" favor what Apple seems to endorse, hate what goes against Apple. We praise analyst views if they are positive on Apple but bash them when they are negative. Patent law is positive when it favors Apple's stance but useless and "needs reform" when it goes against Apple. Phones with screens bigger than 3.5" and then 4" are "abominations", "stupid", "ridiculous" but I bet iPhone 6 won't be. Now that Apple has purchased Beats, it should be only a short time until they are passionately defended as "best headphones ever".
So I appreciate the effort but apparently we either interpret the reviews differently or we have very different definitions of the word objectivity. In your defense, I did go to Consumer Reports and found that they have one model of Beats wired at the top of their headphones review: Beats by Dre Beats Executive and one model of Beats wireless at the top of their review: Beats by Dre Studio Wireless. Personally, I would value CR objectivity pretty highly* though I would love to see an objective audiophile (expert) source take such a stance too (because CR tends to review only a small range of competing models where dedicated audiophile sources tend to consider a wider range of possibilities).
*Note that CR currently ranks about 8 Android phones above iPhone 5s so I would guess that many here would find great fault with CR "objectivity". If the view would go as it usually does, CR would be "stupid" for rating an Apple product below others but then be praised elsewhere for rating an Apple product above others. So I'm guessing CR will be cited to death in defense of Beats headphones and Apple's purchase of Beats… but then bashed to no end for not rating iPhone 5s above Samsung and other Android models.
The tests confirm what I actual hear when listening to my favorite songs. My subjective experience is the new Beats are extremely heavy on the bass, while the treble has issues reaching the higher levels at times.
The vocal sound is not as clear as you would expect from headphones within this price as well.
Within this price range, you are able to find other headphones that can achieve the same results and yet provide a more balanced sound.
The Beats Solo 2 also inherit some of the audio improvements made by the company in its latest generation of headphones. Don’t get me wrong: I use a pair of Sennheiser HD 598 open headphones at home and the difference in quality is astounding.
If you don’t care about fashion, you can find cheaper headphones that offer similar performance
And then this one is most favorable to your point, but I have to question the objectivity of a site dedicated to Apple writing a review after Apple has purchased Beats. That's like claiming objectivity here… and yet here "we" favor what Apple seems to endorse, hate what goes against Apple. We praise analyst views if they are positive on Apple but bash them when they are negative. Patent law is positive when it favors Apple's stance but useless and "needs reform" when it goes against Apple. Phones with screens bigger than 3.5" and then 4" are "abominations", "stupid", "ridiculous" but I bet iPhone 6 won't be. Now that Apple has purchased Beats, it should be only a short time until they are passionately defended as "best headphones ever".
So I appreciate the effort but apparently we either interpret the reviews differently or we have very different definitions of the word objectivity. In your defense, I did go to Consumer Reports and found that they have one model of Beats wired at the top of their headphones review: Beats by Dre Beats Executive and one model of Beats wireless at the top of their review: Beats by Dre Studio Wireless. Personally, I would value CR objectivity pretty highly* though I would love to see an objective audiophile (expert) source take such a stance too (because CR tends to review only a small range of competing models where dedicated audiophile sources tend to consider a wider range of possibilities).
*Note that CR currently ranks about 8 Android phones above iPhone 5s so I would guess that many here would find great fault with CR "objectivity". If the view would go as it usually does, CR would be "stupid" for rating an Apple product below others but then be praised elsewhere for rating an Apple product above others. So I'm guessing CR will be cited to death in defense of Beats headphones and Apple's purchase of Beats… but then bashed to no end for not rating iPhone 5s above Samsung and other Android models.
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your sentence structure was "I didn't mean to discount their opinions, BUT can you please find reviews from audiophiles?". English is by no means my first language but I'm pretty sure that the impression it gives is very clear.
To answer your question, no I haven't seen any reviews from audio specific sites. god forbid people read reviews from sites that are not audio-oriented because surely they don't have enough expertise to review a tech product.