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Google Launches 'Talk' Instant Messaging
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Xapplimatic said:
Ummm no. There is the whole 90% market share thing and the fact that windows to OS X isn't exactly a straight shoot. That and the service already RUNS in iChat..But mainly the market share thing, but as people keep telling me market share doesn't matter....right..
gekko513 said:
Yah I'va had friends tell me this. I found this to be the case myself...for the free "basic" version.... The paid version is actually a different rev #. I have not had Trillian Pro 3 crash on me in the 3 months I've been using it. Trillian 2 crashed maybe half a dozen times in the course of a year.
I just wonder how this is front page news on a mac rumor site, especially since google just has soooooo many OS X apps out.
zap2 said:
You can run both at once with iChat, so its only a gain as far as I am concerned.
Now I need an iChat client that talks to MSN and Yahoo, and I will be happy.
Look around (googleaswitcher said:
) for Jabber-MSN and Jabber-Yahoo gateways.Here's a Jabber-MSN project:
http://msn-transport.jabberstudio.org/
This all makes you wonder about the Google/Apple iTunes rumor. Perhaps Apple and Google are working closer together than anyone suspects, and Apple included Jabber support in iChat because they knew Google Talk was coming. Just a thought.
tangerineyum said:
Umm.. no. I tried it. Using Google Talk on a PC and iChat on my Mac, the voice chat did not work.
If you are using Google talk based on Jabber, you can't use msn through another Jabber client in iChat. iChat can only run 1 jabber at a time.
Its Beta... very much work in progress. Of course not everything is going to be there.
Google has the opportunity to revolutionize instant messengers.. Jabber has been around for a while, but never really taken off.
If google takes off this could encourage others to make theirs inter-operatable. This is something the Mac really needs, especially when it comes to video conferencing.
Google has the opportunity to revolutionize instant messengers.. Jabber has been around for a while, but never really taken off.
If google takes off this could encourage others to make theirs inter-operatable. This is something the Mac really needs, especially when it comes to video conferencing.
SiliconAddict said:Not overly impressed so far. No chat logs. No file transfers. To a lesser necessity no skinning. Maybe its just me but it feels rushed. The only cool thing I see with this is
http://www.google.com/talk/developer.html
Could Google end up being the grand unifier of the IM world?
JGowan said:
Maybe cause iChat is totaly useless outside of USA, where AIM, AOL is not used by anybody! Seriously I know nobody at University, at my job, my friends, my coloc jobs office, nobody around here using AIM. So iChat is total waste of time here, use Adium for MSN and Yahoo chat.
Way to go Google, make a basic service on open source so many client can connect to, that's great. iChat support Jabber too, soo maybe it will begin to be usefull someday with Google Talk.
Again, look for Jabber-MSN and Jabber-Yahoo gateways here:Ti_Poussin said:
http://www.jabber.org/network/
If you want a good audio chat program, look into Gizmo Project. It is supported on all platforms Mac, Windows and Linux.
I use it in place of Teamspeak when playing online games as there is no Mac version.
aussie_geek
I use it in place of Teamspeak when playing online games as there is no Mac version.
aussie_geek
daveL said:
It work, and mess my contact list group, can't transfer file, status mess up often, it's no big deal IMO.
SiliconAddict said:
Did you switch from Trillian 2 to Trillian Pro 3? If so, it might be the 3 more than the Pro. I thought Trillian 2 was okay, but Trillian 3, even the free one, is amazing... astoundingly better than Trillian 2. And since Trillian supports audio/video in the paid version, maybe even better than Adium, until it supports that, although I think Adium still looks slightly better (Trillian 3 looks much better than Trillian 2, also).
yet another reason i want a windows machine. . . so i can run google chat!!! . . .. heh, j/k
weve been setting up a windows vista machine at where i work (yes i work in the IT dept of a windows shop but come on, its like taking candy from a baby, windows is garunteed to NOT WORK. . . anyway im not imprest so far. . . . but getting back on subject. maybe google will start to take over the desktop and eventually come out with their own OS!!!! heh. . . a chat client is a good start for an OS right?
weve been setting up a windows vista machine at where i work (yes i work in the IT dept of a windows shop but come on, its like taking candy from a baby, windows is garunteed to NOT WORK. . . anyway im not imprest so far. . . . but getting back on subject. maybe google will start to take over the desktop and eventually come out with their own OS!!!! heh. . . a chat client is a good start for an OS right?
Wow
I also work in a "Windows Shop" and I think windows works very well. I will admit that windows does have a lot of hole but that is only due to there 90% market share. If os X was on 90% of the desktops there would be just as many holes found as in windows. As for Vista they might as well call it Windows XP Service Pack 3.
This is true.
wPod said:
I also work in a "Windows Shop" and I think windows works very well. I will admit that windows does have a lot of hole but that is only due to there 90% market share. If os X was on 90% of the desktops there would be just as many holes found as in windows. As for Vista they might as well call it Windows XP Service Pack 3.
This is true.
Google even went as far as to block you from connecting to other Jabber servers. That's the whole point of jabber is not XMPP (their open source messaging protocol), it's the free open IM system. No one person controls the network of servers and they all work together.
Just because Google has done it doesn't mean it's great, I've been running the same thing for two years and so have many others.
Just because Google has done it doesn't mean it's great, I've been running the same thing for two years and so have many others.
whfsdude said:
So, I don't understand Jabber that well... can you please help me?
I thought that you get a Jabber account with a specific server, and that every Jabber account is tied down to the server you got it from. Isn't this correct? I thought Jabber S/N's always take the form of you@serveraddress. So you can never really move them. You can use the roster utility to sort of recreate your account elsewhere, but that's not exactly the same. Does the roster utility not work on Google's Jabber server?
nsjoker said:we want the app. google neglects mac users like it's their friggin' job... what's the deal with them?? you'd think with all their resources they'd port things like google earth, gmail notifier, desktop search (not that i'd want it), and google talk to OS X
Not all of us want the app. I really have no use for running more then one chat client. AdiumX does it all and does it very well (Sametime, Yahoo, AIM, .MAC, ICQ, MSN x 2)
Although I would like to see google earth running on my Powerbook.
DeSnousa said:
AdiumX lets one have multiple connections to the same service at the same time.
Sorry but I really like AdiumX
Yeah as in my account me@myserver.com is handeled by > myserver.commkrishnan said:
Not really talking about that though. Here is how Jabber works in a nutshell.
me@myserver.com > myserver.com > any other server on your contacts list.
So if I want to send a message to you@yourserver.com I can. So I have control of my own server and you have control of your server and we can still communicate that's what's great about Jabber. (It's open like e-mail)
Well Google decided that they didn't want to be open. They were going to use the Jabber protocol but not allow members to talk to anyone outside of their IM network and vice versa.
So me@myserver.com cannot talk to you@talk.google.com because Google has blocked it. So there technology is no better than AIM/YIM/MSN at this time right now.
It really does bother me though because they have taken the Jabber technology and sort of used it's name to imply that they are open and they really arn't.
whfsdude said:
Thanks, I understand exactly what you mean now. That is a shame. I hope they open that up.
Bobafonte said:
Riiiiight. I love how your "this is true" statement is said with all seriousness, like we're just supposed to take what you said at face value.