Good old Xerox PARC? I thought it was a nice, relatively subtle jibe at Apples own past product 'influences'
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Good old Xerox PARC? I thought it was a nice, relatively subtle jibe at Apples own past product 'influences'
Apple has been prototyping and desiging mobile devices that became the iPad and iPhone in labs since right after 2001. Their formal patent designs go back to 2004.
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The irony is you think you're more intelligent than NOKIA's legal and technical staff. You're not.
Good old Xerox PARC? I thought it was a nice, relatively subtle jibe at Apples own past product 'influences'
Your misunderstanding it then. Every industry player, be it Google, Microsoft, HP, Dell, Apple, IBM, Sony builds on the "shoulders of giants", people that came before them. There was no jab against anyone, it's just a reality of how innovation works in the technology industry. Someone gets an idea, pushes it out, others innovate on top of it.
The opposite is NIH syndrome ("Not Invented Here") and it's often a negative remark about people trying to reinvent things that are already out there. With time to market being an important metric in every technology field because of how fast things progress, taking what is already out there and building on top of it starts making a lot of sense.
Again, you're thinking Google meant it as a negative. Guess what, Android is an acquisition Google made. OS X is an acquisition Apple made. Both use open source software extensively, etc..
Relax, no one was attacking Apple.
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Pretty hard to copy whats in a lab, hidden from all. And FYI, Andy Rubin has been doing mobile OSes since 1998, for his then original company Danger Inc. We can play that game a long time. The simple fact is, iOS and Android both evolved in the same time period and the truth is both are just different OSes that happen to run on similar hardware (and not so similar hardware in the case of Android since it works on many form factors).
Good old Xerox PARC? I thought it was a nice, relatively subtle jibe at Apples own past product 'influences'
not to mention, OSx itself was not developed by Apple inc.
I know it's kind of a moot point. But just goes to further show that Apple itself borrows heavily from others.
OSx was actually developed by NextSTep technologies headed by Steve Jobs after he was "canned" by Apple.
It was based heavily on BSD platform,and shares many similarities with it. At one point, I believe OSx itself was also deemed "unix compliant" which means it contained code and features that were standard amongst unix's.
Apple is no stranger to "borrowing" and buying their way to technologies. in fact, Apple is pretty much king at taking technologies that exist, and re-packaging them into "shiny" that everyone wants.
Let me caveat this that I don't exactly hate on Apple for doing this. Most innovation today is evolutionary. They build upon success of working platforms to bring us newer, better, and more advanced features and functions. While i don't condone outright copying, A lot of Apples' patent claims, are laughable by most of the tech geeks and shouldn't be barriers to other companies attempt at innovation.
Example: Apple's Patents on "slide to unlock" isn't just moving a single slider. it's moving any object on screen to a predetermined destination on screen to unlock a device. This covers ANY and ALL on screen unlock methods. Apple even claims that apples 3 x 3 grid of pattern unlock is violating this patent. I would argue that while it is "slide to unlock", the awarding of such a patent and it's broad application is a stiffle to innovation and not encouragement.
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Pointless comparison.
Wheels before George Antrobus:
Every wheel after George Antrobus:
There's a logical shape for something that, once arrived upon, just makes sense from that point on. Do you expect everyone else to make triangle shaped phones with points?
That point being 10.5 on Intel hardware all the way up to 10.8 running on Intel hardware. They have obtained UNIX '03 certification, meaning they passed the test suite and are compliant to the SUS v3 (Single Unix Specification). The Open Group is the entity responsible for managing the SUS v3, the test suite and assuring compliance. They also own and manage the Unix trademark, and to use it, you have to be in compliance with the SUS and follow quite a few rules in its usage.
It doesn't mean OS X or NeXTSTEP contained any actual Unix code though and that's a different topic all together (I haven't heard anything about Apple or NeXT having a license to the SYSV code base from Novell, which acquired the copyrights on the code base from AT&T. They sold the license management business to SCO, but not the actual copyrights themselves).
NeXTSTEP like you said used code from BSD instead of SYSV, and from other projects like Carnegie Mellon's mach micro-kernel.
Why would you change the recipe and do a "Microsoft" i.e giving the interface a whole new style and look. It would just make it confusing for users.
When you have the perfect recipe you very rarely change it, rather just tweak it slightly.
So are you suggesting that future generations of iOS and the iPhone won't be innovative or only marginally so?
Where exactly does it say that? It submitted for patent approval thus publicly showing off what is wants to patent. You wouldn't do that if you did not get the patent.
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Well, if that's the case... it would be the fight of the century for both Apple and Google... as they stand neck and neck to each other...
The only thing I'll excuse Schmidt for is being crafty enough to dupe everyone into being a CEO for as long as he has despite not having a clue.
He is a weasel, always has been and always will be.
The real innovators
Iphone in 2007
Iphone in 2012
Android in 2007
Android in 2012
Somebody had to keep on innovating the smartphone world, cause Apple sure wasn't going to.
Iphone in 2007
Iphone in 2012
Android in 2007
Android in 2012
Somebody had to keep on innovating the smartphone world, cause Apple sure wasn't going to.
I've been a loyal Mac user since 99 and I switched to Android about a year ago. As much as I loved Apple, Android is a better fit FOR ME on a smart phone.
You might think Apple is on top of the world here but, in my opinion Apple is at a very critical time here. If Apple doesn't do something magical with the next iPhone, this is the top. It has to be more than just a stretched 4S. Seriously, they have had pretty much the exact same phone since 2007. Yeah it might be a bit faster and thinner, and a slightly better camera, but it will be basically the same old iPhone. Argue all you want about adding new minor features, but the phone has changed very little since 2007. If those leaks are correct I would imagine a lot of you are going to be incredibly disappointed and either will switch to another phone or won't upgrade. I know I was when the iPhone 3S and 4 came out. It's time to shake it up Apple! Google has blown Apple out of the water in the last 2 years with their willingness to change and evolve. Android isn't what Google tells me it is. Android is what I tell it to be. Thats why I switched.
You might think Apple is on top of the world here but, in my opinion Apple is at a very critical time here. If Apple doesn't do something magical with the next iPhone, this is the top. It has to be more than just a stretched 4S. Seriously, they have had pretty much the exact same phone since 2007. Yeah it might be a bit faster and thinner, and a slightly better camera, but it will be basically the same old iPhone. Argue all you want about adding new minor features, but the phone has changed very little since 2007. If those leaks are correct I would imagine a lot of you are going to be incredibly disappointed and either will switch to another phone or won't upgrade. I know I was when the iPhone 3S and 4 came out. It's time to shake it up Apple! Google has blown Apple out of the water in the last 2 years with their willingness to change and evolve. Android isn't what Google tells me it is. Android is what I tell it to be. Thats why I switched.
Sigh.
You realize that there's a lot more to innovation then changing a skin. Android HAD to keep changing the look because it's always been a disjointed, awful wannabe clone of iOS (albeit implemented poorly).
Apple isn't going to change the look and feel of their BRAND every year just "because".
If you have something that works, you don't radically change it.
Samsung/Google, on the other hand, had nothing that worked so they had to resort to blatantly copy iOS even though they were warned not to do so.
And, yet, millions will still buy it as they always have because they know that, unlike Android, the iPhone actually works for real-world situations.
So changing design is the only think that means innovation to you?
Just because Apple didn't redesign its products so that they were completely unrecognisable in that time period doesn't mean that they weren't innovating.
Also pls next time take phones from the same company.
Oh and Change your tags cuz that last image is extremely big.
I'm always amazed that someone can write such ridiculous claims without showing any remorse. And worse, you perhaps believe the things you wrote.
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Both are Google phones, designed by them.
Millions of people are buying Android phones, because they know, like iOS, their phones work for their real-world situations.
By your own admittance though - you don't expect Apple to be all that innovative in the future. "If you have something that works, you don't radically change it."
And while there is similarities among the OSes - in no way is it a clone. At all.
Good old Xerox PARC? I thought it was a nice, relatively subtle jibe at Apples own past product 'influences'
ohh thumbs up for you then
I thought I was talking to a blinkered fan
One should not expect anytime soon an iPhone with rounded edges now. Perhaps we will see a disk-shaped device soon? Can anyone copyright shapes and colors? The world has gone f....g mad!
Oh please, if Apple can't design a real new body for their iPhone after 5 years, you know that there's something lacking. The "if it ain't broke don't fix" approach doesn't cut it in a fast changing industry. Even cars get a new look after 5 years when the new generation is released. There wasn't anything wrong with how it looked before, but innovation is about going forward. Standing still is going backwards. Same thing applies to the OS.
Maybe Apple's getting afraid to change things, after Antennagate...
Speaking of Google, check out this gem:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/27/3...s-paid-bloggers-and-journalists-says-stanford
Whatever happened to Don't be evil?
Mark
http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/27/3...s-paid-bloggers-and-journalists-says-stanford
Whatever happened to Don't be evil?
Mark