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Ok....

Point taken, but how much of their "choice" is really just an illusion when they're still:

1. Buying a phone that's locked to one carrier for a 2 year period, *or* paying hundreds more just so they can still use the same hardware with the same people, paying the same monthly rate, except without the promise they'll keep service with them for that long?

2. Limited by what the carrier allows them to do with the phone on their network. (EG. Verizon's notorious crippling of Bluetooth sync capabilities of their phones, to ensure you can't do things that cost them potential revenue, like making your own ring-tones and downloading them to phones, or backing up your contact lists and calendars without using software they sell you first, or??)

3. Still unable to just pick up the phone and TALK on it whenever they like, just like a home phone, without worry about running over on minutes.

I guess my point is, all of these new cellphones coming out make huge promises of "freedom" to do this or that, and are hyped up to be "game changers" -- but I don't see much changing. There's no universally supported cellphone programming language, so a developer can't "write once, and run everywhere". (I guess companies tried to make Java the quick and dirty solution for a while there ... with phones like the Moto Razr and most Nextel's using it. But as we all know, Java has too many limitations to be the total solution for full-featured smartphones.) Unless that changes, I don't see Apple's "walled garden" approach to iPhone apps as that big a deal, really. The big issues have more to do with carrier restrictions and policies, and nobody has been able to break us free of that mess here in the USA.



Yawn.

Some people like the option to choose, not what Apple tells them. Just saying.
 
Yet... they all eventually get released and their hype dies down until the next "iPhone killer."

It's a pretty overused term that never really applies.

That's probably why it says this...

The Nexus One has received favorable reviews from those who have been able to handle the new device, but most observers see it as competition for the Motorola Droid within the Android market segment rather than being positioned as a true "iPhone killer".
 
I don't trust Google

I would not be surprised if Google tracks every website, every text message, every phone call, every contact on my Google Phone in order to target and send more ads to me.
 
Point taken, but how much of their "choice" is really just an illusion when they're still:

1. Buying a phone that's locked to one carrier for a 2 year period, *or* paying hundreds more just so they can still use the same hardware with the same people, paying the same monthly rate, except without the promise they'll keep service with them for that long?

2. Limited by what the carrier allows them to do with the phone on their network. (EG. Verizon's notorious crippling of Bluetooth sync capabilities of their phones, to ensure you can't do things that cost them potential revenue, like making your own ring-tones and downloading them to phones, or backing up your contact lists and calendars without using software they sell you first, or??)

3. Still unable to just pick up the phone and TALK on it whenever they like, just like a home phone, without worry about running over on minutes.

I guess my point is, all of these new cellphones coming out make huge promises of "freedom" to do this or that, and are hyped up to be "game changers" -- but I don't see much changing. There's no universally supported cellphone programming language, so a developer can't "write once, and run everywhere". (I guess companies tried to make Java the quick and dirty solution for a while there ... with phones like the Moto Razr and most Nextel's using it. But as we all know, Java has too many limitations to be the total solution for full-featured smartphones.) Unless that changes, I don't see Apple's "walled garden" approach to iPhone apps as that big a deal, really. The big issues have more to do with carrier restrictions and policies, and nobody has been able to break us free of that mess here in the USA.

1) Clearly you don't get the purpose of buying an unlocked phone. You have the freedom to move from carrier to carrier. In the rest of the world, buying an unlocked phone means LOWER monthly fees.

2) Verizon does that on their dumb phones, not their smart phones. In this case it's moot since we're talking about a smart phone.

3) There are such things as unlimited plans. Unlimited talk, text and web.
 
I guess I'm asking more if it will run on AT&T's 3G network as opposed to Edge only.

I haven't looked at the technical specs. and I'm a bit lazy right now. :p

Got ya. That's what I figured. I was hoping they'd include support for it, but the media would've picked up on that one if it were true.

Thanks for the info.

Sorry, I forgot your networks are burdened with incompatibility in the USA.
 
That's probably why it says this...

Scratch that. I didn't see his dig directly at blackberries. I just read his comment how I normally see it used.

I personally hate people being labeled "Apple fanboys" when they simply comment on another so called "iPhone killer." But alas, that's for another thread...

Anyone know of any direct comparisons to the droid?
 
I am really liking what Google is doing and I hope they give Apple a run for their money. I hope this makes the next iPhone and OS really nice.

I love my iPhone, but I agree with this posting. Apple needs to have other players come close, maybe even pass them up in some areas. This is the only way we'll keep a head of the curve and have a superior product with the iPhone. Competition is good!
 
2) Verizon does that on their dumb phones, not their smart phones. In this case it's moot since we're talking about a smart phone.

Has Verizon removed the no wi-fi restriction on all of it's smartphones now? And do they still include all that Verizon music store junk?
 
Sorry, I forgot your networks are burdened with incompatibility in the USA.

Sad but true... I am still surprised that they didn't include a radio which supported AT&T's 3G spectrum. It could open them up to a wider customer base, and also allow for straight-up head to head speed shootouts...

Mainly, I wish someone would go straight for the jugular on the iPhone. It's not that I want the iPhone to get knocked down a peg- More that I want apple to be forced to step up their game even further.
 
Has Verizon removed the no wi-fi restriction on all of it's smartphones now? And do they still include all that Verizon music store junk?

Sprint and Verizon have both stopped the no WiFi bit. Most of their smartphones have it now.

I don't think they do that on their smartphones. Dumbphones is another story though.
 
So . . . Google's phone is going to take on their other phone that is manufactured by the company they partnered with to make the killer Android phone?

Hmmm . . . .
 
I'm not truly understand which is the role of Google in this phone.

Neither they produce it nor distribute.

As you said before, this is another one to add to the iphone killers list, but it would be supposed to be different. I had read that this phone would be under $200 and wouldn't be tie to mobile operators.

Finally, market wins
 
Yawn.

Some people like the option to choose, not what Apple tells them. Just saying.

The fact that you (and many others) think "choosing" the product of another mega-billion dollar corporation is some kind of exercise of your personal rights is just funny.
 
I'm not truly understand which is the role of Google in this phone.

Neither they produce it nor distribute.

Well, the competition seems to be HTC vs. Motorola, and Android vs. Other OSes. Google only makes the OS, which is Android.

For some reason I think this whole setup is going to turn into a nightmare in due course.
 
The fact that you (and many others) think "choosing" the product of another mega-billion dollar corporation is some kind of exercise of your personal rights is just funny.

You obviously FAIL at trying to comprehend my point.

Some people want a keyboard, some people want a touch screen, some want a slider. See what I'm saying?
 
The $79/month subscription is the same as I have for my iPhone. True, I only get 200 texts, but I never come close to using them anyway, and with rollover, I have more talk time than I ever will touch.

I don't see the advantage, and I'd be willing to bet that Google culls your personal information for their targeted advertising.

I think you missed the part about "Unlimited ANYTIME minutes". I have 1 unlocked 3G iPhone on Tmob with the "everything" Package and only pay a total of $85.00. This works perfect for me , as I do need to make more calls than my current ATT plan offers for my 3GS. Even with 1 iphone on the ATT network , it still gets no where as cheap as this plan , unless you have the basic plan and use the bare minimum of texting....
 
Well, the competition seems to be HTC vs. Motorola, and Android vs. Other OSes. Google only makes the OS, which is Android.

For some reason I think this whole setup is going to turn into a nightmare in due course.

Yah, i know, but the difference is Nexus One was a Google product.

Hero or Dream are HTC products as Motorola with Droid, but in these cases Google didn't take the main role.

I don't know why this has changed in Nexus.
 
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