^Does it matter anymore? Verizon smartphones have WiFi in them now. Thus, the point is moot now.
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Apple is a relatively large company that has chosen to compete in very narrow bands of the market, usually the premium, high-margin level of a given category.
That said, they absolutely dominate the MP3 player and online music sales markets. They are proceeding through the high-end smartphone market at an seemingly unstoppable pace. While their worldwide PC marketshare is low, they dominate sales of the premium notebook and desktop computing categories.
If you look at the company from a stock valuation standpoint, they are larger than Cisco, IBM, Oracle, Dell, Hewlett-Packard, Intel, and practically everyone else except for Microsoft.
It doesn't. But I wasn't the one spouting off incorrectly in the thread. Wasn't the first time he's done it either.
pricing VZW is the most expensive, followed by AT&T followed by T-Mo followed by Sprint.
T-Mo is cheaper but their 3G coverage sucks compared to AT&T and their 3G frequencies are so high that they have trouble penetrating buildings.
More importantly (or important at all, since I don't consider stock value to be a good indicator anyways) is that they do have bigger market capital than most tech companies out there, except Microsoft.
Wow... I think your whole point is to shock people with some of these claims. I understand that you don't want other companies competing with Apple because you feel that competition is detrimental to the success of the iPhone, but you are telling people that "one size should fit all" and that is not the way it should be. I would be pretty upset if only given one choice for any product. I want good choices and Android offers that. It proves another solid choice for people other then the iPhone.
You claim that making a broad number of devices with different iterations of a mobile OS is terrible, however how did a very similar strategy work out for Bill Gates? Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't Windows still have close to a 90% market share? I know they have slipped a little, but that is mainly due to Vista never catching on. I think Windows 7 will stabilize their market share over the next year.
I like a lot of Apple products, but to claim that everyone should just buy an iPhone and that no other company can compete no matter what is pretty silly.
You think that Android is terrible, but honestly have you carried an Android phone for a couple of months and used it in and out? I have and I think it's pretty darn nifty.
So that's the fanboi bit covered...
Is it Sony?
surely not Panasonic or LG?What reality? The one that you see after you swallow the hard pill?
All conquering consumer tech? List everything that could be considered consumer tech and then put Apple beside the ones they make. (I got nothing for TV's. cameras, printers, game consoles, bluray players). Is AppleTV flying off the shelves where you live? OK - so it seems by "consumer tech" you mean the smartphone market, and by "the age we live in" you mean the 18 months since the iPhone 3G was launched.
The iPhone 3G(S) has the edge at the moment because of its unique abilities, which are good enough to compensate (for many users) for some huge deficiencies. The next version iPhone will give a good indication of how well Apple can maintain their dominant position in the smartphone market.
And as for the overall mobile phone market - I don't see Apple wanting to be a mass producers of low end technology, unless they want to dilute the brand to unprecedented levels.
Okay, figured that sucker out...
$39.99 for 500 minutes
$30.00 for unlimited e-mail and web
$10.00 for unlimited text message - equals...
$79.99
What was AT&T's plan again?
$39.99 for 450 rollover minutes
$50.00 for unlimited text mesage - equals...
$89.99 but to included hot spots TMo have to add $9.99 making T-Mo $89.98 versus AT&T $89.99...
Well you know what they say...
A penny saved is a penny earned!
ok, you're wrong.
this is not an accurate comparison... there is only the one iteration of windows. you get your updates ONLY from microsoft. There is only ONE current version.
windows is a broad number of devices with ONE iteration of an OS.
to be an actual comparison, you'd be getting your windows update from HP or whoever, and it would look / feel different from the Intel version. obviously, this isn't how things are.
of course, you do say "mobile" once in there, to make your point even more confusing. this might be more true for windows mobile. windows mobile also only has like 9% of the market. (NOT 90% ... stupid decimals are HARD, hm?)
What genius came up with the idea to sell a $500 unlocked phone that doesn't support 3G freqs on AT&T? I wonder if this was the same genius that decided to sell the Droid in late 2009 with a 2 year contract that doesn't support Verizon's roll-out of LTE in 2010.
You mean they don't make them in Steve's parents' garage anymore?
No, they moved up to "Portable On Demand storage" or "Pods"! Haven't you heard of the iPod?!
Employees? Really?
Try marketshare of their iPods and iPhones. How about having the #1 place to DL music and movies in the world.
The word "small" doesn't work for Apple.
The future of consumer tech has not been written. Any current company has to the ability, and could, come out with a product 'tomorrow' that will result in the 'iPod effect' as has happened to Apple.
Consumer tech is a lot about fashion ( and of course, innovation to catch the consumers interest ). Apple could become 'uncool and unfashionable' very quickly and their dominance will disappear. Innovation to keep the interest of the consumer: Apple has done this very well, but past success doesn't ensure future success.
To say the future of consumer tech is Apple is very shortsighted etc , or just plain trolling.
But Apple doesn't care about marketshare. Oh wait, only if it applies to any of its product range that has high marketshare, otherwise, its not important.
How is this ( Google phone ) different to Apple's decision to keep the iPhone exclusive to AT&T? You can't use iPhone ( officially ) on any other american network. Both iPhone and Google phone are restricted to one carrier. Why criticize Google but not Apple?
Sure, but not for a couple of months. Had an HTC Magic, with the 1.6 SDK for nearly a week. It didn't take a couple of months to realize it sure has hell was no iPhone. Oh well, maybe someday someone will come along and finally make a worthy competitor, but with most of the talent gone to Cupertino it'll take a while.
Palm had something truly special with its WebOS. It was no iPhone, but it held a lot of promise. Alas . . .
Unless you're talking about their devices.
Then, small and thin are great choice words. Two of which I'd never want to be associated with, if you catch my drift.
I think the poster was referring more to the fact that they sell it unlocked, but it's of little value on any other network.
Apple does not sell the iPhone unlocked to anyone, so it doesn't matter how compatible it may or may not be on other networks - they only allow you to use it with AT&T.
The fact that Google plans to offer this phone "unlocked" would lead one to assume they could purchase it unsubsidized and use it with another carrier, not just with no contract. While it may work to an extent on AT&T's network, it appears it won't be fully 3G compatible.
In other news-
Motorola will introduce 2 new Android handsets at CES 2010 that will feature OLED screens and slide out physical keyboards. It is rumored that one of them will be going to AT&T and is rumored to be a "Google Experiences" phone instead of running Motoblur over the top of the Android OS.
http://www.i4u.com/article29520.html
More standardization between devices as far as the Android OS is concerned appears to be coming.
OLED screens from Motorola and HTC are going to make the old low res screen on the iPhone look pretty bad. My iPod Touch's screen already looks pretty bad when I have it side by side with the Droid.
Wait a minute I thought Apple was the best at everything? I guess people don't care about the screen.
Motorola will introduce 2 new Android handsets at CES 2010 that will feature OLED screens and slide out physical keyboards. It is rumored that one of them will be going to AT&T and is rumored to be a "Google Experiences" phone instead of running Motoblur over the top of the Android OS.
http://www.i4u.com/article29520.html
More standardization between devices as far as the Android OS is concerned appears to be coming.
OLED screens from Motorola and HTC are going to make the old low res screen on the iPhone look pretty bad. My iPod Touch's screen already looks pretty bad when I have it side by side with the Droid.
Wait a minute I thought Apple was the best at everything? I guess people don't care about the screen.
No it doesn't. I'm saying that market capital is more important than per-share price.