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Yah, i know, but the difference is Nexus One was a Google product.

Hero or Dream are HTC products as Motorola with Droid, but in these cases Google didn't take the main role.

I don't know why this has changed in Nexus.

As far as I can tell HTC is making the Nexus One. Google doesn't do hardware, unless I missed that point.

In any case, Google, HTC and Motorola seem to have some branding issues. One is called the Passion on one network, and called the Bravo on another network, etc.
 
No, the issue is that you essentially have a lot of choice among rather poor options, aka "choiceless choices."

Wrong. Whether a choice is good or not depends on the user. I'm pretty sure Droid owners are happy with it, I'm pretty sure Nexus owners will be happy it. I'm pretty sure iPhone owners are happy with it. I'm extremely happy I can get to choose.

Why is this concept so hard to understand?

Ontopic: At this price, unlocked, I much rather get a N900..... :mad:
 
Yah, i know, but the difference is Nexus One was a Google product.

Hero or Dream are HTC products as Motorola with Droid, but in these cases Google didn't take the main role.

I don't know why this has changed in Nexus.

google designed the dream/g1 and htc manufactured it. same concept with the nexus one.
 
In any case, Google, HTC and Motorola seem to have some branding issues. One is called the Passion on one network, and called the Bravo on another network, etc.

No, they are all different phones software wise.

HTC's own phones use Sense, the "Comes with Google" phones don't.

"Comes with Google" phones can be updated directly by Google, while for other Android phones you need a new rom from the vendor like HTC.

It's all about choice. Some like the Sense user interface so they will get the HTC phone while others are more interested in a "standard" Android phone which might be easier to tweak.
 
No, they are all different phones software wise.

HTC's own phones use Sense, the "Comes with Google" phones don't.

"Comes with Google" phones can be updated directly by Google, while for other Android phones you need a new rom from the vendor like HTC.

It's all about choice. Some like the Sense user interface so they will get the HTC phone while others are more interested in a "standard" Android phone which might be easier to tweak.

Exactly my point.
 
Why is the iPhone the target?

Apple set out to get 1-2 of the total cell phone market. If they did that they would then consider the iPhone a success. Why is it that for anyone else to be successful they have to dominate the market. Many people consider the Mac a success with 5-10% of the market. That usually only gets them into the top 10 & sometimes into the top 5.

I have Verizon service. For that reason the iPhone & the new Google phone is not an option. After my underwelming experience with my iPod Touch I'm not sure that I would go for the iPhone if offered on Verizon.

Also what is there about the Google phone that would make me want it over a Droid? The Droid works on Verizon. It has a little bigger screen than the iPhone & maybe the Google phone. One of my complaints with the iPod Touch is that when using a spreadsheet in landscape mode with the keyboard showing, (how else can one do any work without the keyboard in a spreadsheet), only one line shows. Not very useful for real use. I purchased the iPod Touch as a Palm PDA replacement. If I purchased a Droid, a Google phone or an iPhone it would also have to do those duties.

So far there is only about one spreadsheet in the Android OS that has enough features for me to be able to use it. I have 2 on my iPod T ouch that do a half good job with fewer useful features than they advertise. So if the Google phone brings more useful business apps to the Android OS then it will help the Android OS out if not then it as others have said will just muddy the water a little more.

I'm not a game player so I'll never make a comment good or bad about games. Everyone has their own use for a new device. Generally if the device does better than previous models in one area it also will do better in another area that means more to you. So more competition is good, spreading oneself too thin can be just as bad as good. As a 25+ year Mac User I want the iPod Touch/iPhone to succeed. But I also want the Android OS to succeed as this will help keep Apple on its toes. Apple has let the Mac OS slide with OS 10.5 & has not stopped that with OS 10.6. In fact it seems to be speeding up in that means. OS 10.6 was to be a catch up in quality. I'm still hearing that the quality is much lower than 10.5. My PPC Macs have nothing to envy over my Intel Macs. At least I use my iPod TOuch more often than I boot my Intel Mac into OS 10.6.

So we'll see how much the Android Phone helps us in the very near future.
 
You obviously FAIL at trying to comprehend my point.

Some people want a keyboard, some people want a touch screen, some want a slider. See what I'm saying?

Well, sure, but so what? There are any number of phones that have those features. It's not like this one is some kind of triumph for Google, or mobile telephony. It's just another run-of-the-mill phone with a perfectly ordinary--even expensive, for T-Mobile--2 year plan, which is MY point.

Apple has no obligation to make such a phone as you describe, for all their success they're a relatively small company and do best with targeted products. Apple's research apparently shows that minimalistic design appeals to their customer base, and it's been a successful approach.
 
Exactly my point.

PRAISE APPLE! THEY CAN DO NO WRONG!

Well, sure, but so what? There are any number of phones that have those features. It's not like this one is some kind of triumph for Google, or mobile telephony. It's just another run-of-the-mill phone with a perfectly ordinary--even expensive, for T-Mobile--2 year plan, which is MY point.

Apple has no obligation to make such a phone as you describe, for all their success they're a relatively small company and do best with targeted products. Apple's research apparently shows that minimalistic design appeals to their customer base, and it's been a successful approach.

Are those phones running Android? That's the point Android is customizable whilst the iPhone isn't.

You do realize you don't have to sign a contract with T-Mobile or even use T-Mobile as the operator right?

Apple, a small company? LMAO. What planet you on?
 
Has Verizon removed the no wi-fi restriction on all of it's smartphones now?

There never was a general WiFi restriction.

Verizon first got smartphones with WiFi in 2005, the same year as every other USA carrier.

It was mostly Blackberrys that didn't have WiFi for a longer time... mainly because most Verizon sales back then were to enterprises who didn't want it.

A couple of other CDMA models didn't have WiFi simply because there was much less need for WiFi since EVDO is far more widespread than ATT 3G.

But again, all their top of the line smartphones had WiFi from the beginning.
 
If it was on Verizon i would buy it instantly. TMobile doesnt even get decent reception in my back yard, whereas ATT and Verizon all have full signal.
 
Wrong. Whether a choice is good or not depends on the user. I'm pretty sure Droid owners are happy with it, I'm pretty sure Nexus owners will be happy it. I'm pretty sure iPhone owners are happy with it. I'm extremely happy I can get to choose.

Why is this concept so hard to understand?

Ontopic: At this price, unlocked, I much rather get a N900..... :mad:

Yes, trouble is, some people are too short sighted / blind / radical ( or just trolling ) to see that the iPhone does NOT suite all people. A Blackberry / Nokia may be better phone than the iPhone.

Eye of the beholder.
 
Those plan options are worse than the iPhone.

Google must not really be serious about taking over the market. If they were, they would sell the phone unlocked for $200 and give it away for free with a contract. They make money through search and not hardware (like Apple).



How stupid is T-Mobile? Makes you buy a $600 phone if you want to use your family plan?

maybe that booing against ATT will get less finaly...
 
The text says unlimited talk, but the picture says 500 mins. 79$ for unlimited everything isn't bad, but 79$ for 500 mins is just standard blah!


Maybe it is a typo?! OR A penalty for buying a Google phone? :rolleyes:

It's also different then what is advertised in a T-Mobile tv commercial. It's hard to know what to believe anymore.

If the price is right and the iPhone came to T-Mobile, I'd stay with them, BUT looking at their service charges for hot spots, tunes, other items taken for granted and the price seems to add up, not so sure now...

Of course, be it T-Mobile, Sprint, Verizon, AT&T no one can have just one easy to read and comprehend smart phone plan that gives your new smartphone all that is needed to allow every bell and whistle to work.

Maybe one day, that day will come... Maybe one day! ;)
 
There never was a general WiFi restriction.

Verizon first got smartphones with WiFi in 2005, the same year as every other USA carrier.

It was mostly Blackberrys that didn't have WiFi for a longer time... mainly because most Verizon sales back then were to enterprises who didn't want it.

A couple of other CDMA models didn't have WiFi simply because there was much less need for WiFi since EVDO is far more widespread than ATT 3G.

Oh please, spare me this drivel. You sound like a rep. Does Verizon sign off on your checks?

It was fairly common to find a phone's wifi capability neutered on Verizon's network, for whatever reason. Spin it however you'd like, the fact is there were phones that were available on other carriers with the inclusion of wi-fi.
 
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