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Google Nexus One Appears Set to Launch January 5th
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I don't quite understand what you want to say here?
What is better:
no choice: One mega-billion dollar corporation selling an item
OR
choice: Two or more mega-billion dollar corporations selling comparable items (or even the same item)
Or do you want to say it makes no difference whether you have choice or not because we're all doomed anyway? In this case I prefer to have a choice in which way I want to be doomed.
Usually, the measurement used to determine the size of a company is turnover, not the number of employees.
Where's all the $530 is too much for a phone talk. Oh yeah, that's only reserved for expensive Apple products.
I think it's important that everyone in this conversation understand that T-Mobile charges significantly less in monthly fees if you do not buy a subsidized phone. They appear to be trying to bring the European model here (which I'd welcome).
That $79.99 plan is $59.99 (and with no contract) if you bring your own phone. That's $480 less for the rate plan over 2 years, so you'd be paying $130 less for the phone than you would with the subsidized option ($50 vs $180.)
How about less than 5% market share? I keep being told that is small, and that number comes up a lot. People tend to pick and choose when Apple is insignificant. I find that amusing.
Well, it doesn't take much to predict the arrival of higher iPhone resolutions at SOME point. In order for the 3GS to have it already, Apple would have needed to approach App developers a year ago (which they chose not to do, didn't seem to bother too many people back then). My guess is that they will release their tablet along with some APIs to make resolution-independent app development very easy.
Oh puh-lease!
Anyone who truly doesn't want any company telling them what to do wouldn't own a cell phone to begin with (at least, in the US.) The entire cell phone market is awash in consumer constraints and binding agreements and contracts and ridiculous fees and blah blah blah. Anyone thinking Google, a company who makes most of its revenue on advertising (an industry not exactly known for its respect for customers) is somehow going to free us all from this convoluted nonsense is delusional.
Ding! This one gets the prize. This is exactly why I do not, and will not ever own any smartphone in the US (including iPhone). To funnel more money into a system so skewed towards the interests of the telcos with almost no rights for the consumer is simply not something I ever wish to do.
It does not matter to me how cool the phone is, if the process of owning it is so entirely tilted to the telcos extracting as much money from me a possible whilst providing the worst possible service they can get away with, I am not interested. And none of this matters a whit of the phone is made by Apple or Google, or whomever.
If they come out with a way to make resolution independent app development very easy, there will be a whole lot of people VERY happy. Not just a bunch of iPhone app developers. This has a been a problem when developing apps for OS/X for a long time.
Get a unlocked smartphone, enjoy freedom.
sishaw said:
Lol. I think what people here mean is that it's better to have several choices instead of just one. Hell, aren't you happy that you are able to chose between Linux, OS X and Windows on your desktop?
Ok, I know not everyone is an accountant, but geez, can you at least add? Let's say you upgrade both your smartphones to the Nexus One, and stick with Tmobile as you implied you would.
214/month * 24 months = 5136
2 unsubsidized smartphones: 530 * 2 = 1060
2 subsidized smartphones: 180 * 2 = 360
Since you already are paying for a 5 phone family plan with smartphones, that doesn't actually change. So:
Total subsidized: 5496
Total unsubsidized: 6196
How is that financially better? Sure, for those 2 years you have the devastating feeling that they are holding something over you. Is that worth $700, if you already plan to stay?
It may be interesting to note that Tmobile holds the contracts per line, even in family plans. So it's actually only those 2 lines that would have a contract, the others would be free to take off if they chose.
Nexus One phone specs and pricing out. People pissed that it doesn't cost only $5 and it's not faster than a super computer and it doesn't have 100% free phone service with 4G speeds and a 25 mega-pixel full-frame camera with HD video. And if they don't offer all of this there's no way it will survive.
I'm being sarcastic, but seriously...that's the vibe I'm getting from everyone.
I'm being sarcastic, but seriously...that's the vibe I'm getting from everyone.
Man, I still can't believe its called the Nexus One!
In a see of forgettable names which ones have stood out?
iPhone
RAZR
Maybe Droid
Anything else?
I'm not talking quality of phone, I'm talking name.
If google is so open about their competition with Apple, why didn't they go with gPhone?
Maybe the Nexus One will be to the gPhone as the ROKR was to the iPhone...
In a see of forgettable names which ones have stood out?
iPhone
RAZR
Maybe Droid
Anything else?
I'm not talking quality of phone, I'm talking name.
If google is so open about their competition with Apple, why didn't they go with gPhone?
Maybe the Nexus One will be to the gPhone as the ROKR was to the iPhone...
Thanks for useful info. Beinf AT&T customer I had no idea about these possibilities.
Yeah, and if it didn't turn out to be the size of a WWII walkie talkie and go through batteries like corn through a goose and come only on Zune Brown.
It takes class to make something classy. Imagine Trabot setting out to unseat Mercedes... Microsoft just lacks the DNA to do the job.
one of the main things that peaked my interest when I first read the rumors was "data only for $20 a month"
I am very disappointed those rumors didn't pan out. With voip and IM clients I don't see the point in the added cost for voice and text
I am very disappointed those rumors didn't pan out. With voip and IM clients I don't see the point in the added cost for voice and text
It is T mobile though. You can't travel much out of the cities without bricking your 'phone'.
Lame!
Interesting date. They most likely wanted to get it out before Apple has an event. 21 days of Google phone till Apple steals their "thunder"!
Interesting date. They most likely wanted to get it out before Apple has an event. 21 days of Google phone till Apple steals their "thunder"!
Brick must mean something new, now. Used to mean, "turning into a brick", as in...throw it away.
T-mob's service has improved quite a bit in the Mpls/StPaul metro, which is one of the largest physical calling areas in the country. (only 1.5 million people, though) Getting a better phone helped me, too.
It's all about the specific area you live in. I still don't get great service in my parents' house. Neither can they on Verizon, and these are easily the best 2 cell companies here for coverage.
tech size
Oh, alright. I have little economics or business acumen, so a company, to me, can only be as good, or as big, as their employees. Apple just makes a bigger splash with better paddles. If technically a company is as big as it's splash, then, I guess I'm wrong.
Oh, alright. I have little economics or business acumen, so a company, to me, can only be as good, or as big, as their employees. Apple just makes a bigger splash with better paddles. If technically a company is as big as it's splash, then, I guess I'm wrong.
You guys are all arguing semantics. In the end, I think the original poster that started this sub-thread was just wrong and you all agree he was. Apple is not a small company, no matter by what metric you judge it.
When it comes to "style", Apple obviously wins over MS. Then again, style is something clearly subjective, except for those who like doing what everyone else is doing
But what the hell,hHave you even seen the Zune HD? "walkie talkie size", "something about corn".... what the hell are you talking about?
You have to read between the lines. Google for example makes around $10 billion less revenue than apple, but their margins are so much better that the gross profit of apple is only $200 million more... Way less that what you would think if you looked at revenue.
So your market cap and stock price don't mean anything unless you look at the the financial statements.