Google Nexus One Software Updated to Offer 'Pinch-to-Zoom' Multi-Touch Capabilities

BRLawyer said:
I'll answer that one for ya:

THE NEXUS ONE IS DEAD.

In other words, it's an irrelevant copycat POS that sells 1/100th of what the iPhone does in the same period of time...no wonder they are excited about getting "pinch and zoom" as if it were the second coming...expectations must be really low down there :rolleyes:
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You were always a fanboi and so you continue. BRlawyer... if you're really a lawyer then I feel sorry for you customers as you are so narrow minded that it actually hurts reading your posts.
Nexus one kills the iPhone. And it's a simple fact and not a matter of internet discussion... IF, and again IF you understand the difference between those two then maybe your next post will actually bring something to read about.
 
-=XX=-Nephilim said:
I have a huge problem with iPad and its not only lack of Flash, lack of Multitasking, closed system etc...

Its the SIZE... Its bloody HUGE!!!

I just cant see myself taking it outside at all since it really won't make much difference if I just take my MBP instead...

I was really hoping to see 5-7 inch screen - something like this but from Apple: http://www.slipperybrick.com/2010/01/dell-unveils-mini-5-tablet-prototype/
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hmm, i have doubts for the ipad too, but the longer i think about it, the better I see it's future. The problem is that if you are a power user, then you won't see the point of having an ipad. But it the near future, i guess the ipad will be the new paradigm of portable computers, replacing the macbook line in a couple of years.

You know, it's like the iphone, it is so well built, they have calculated the perfect screen size that would make it usable to every hand, the perfect pixel per inch, a single button, only application and nothing more, easy UI with no more than 2 steps to get everywhere. the more i see it, the more I think it is a perfect machine.
This gives me the feeling of giving the ipad a chance :)

Check the dell- mini 5 if you want a cool 5" device
 
D4F said:
You were always a fanboi and so you continue. BRlawyer... if you're really a lawyer then I feel sorry for you customers as you are so narrow minded that it actually hurts reading your posts.
Nexus one kills the iPhone. And it's a simple fact and not a matter of internet discussion... IF, and again IF you understand the difference between those two then maybe your next post will actually bring something to read about.
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It not really even a matter of discussion.. there is no discussion... Iphone in its current form cannot hold a CANDLE to Adriod 2.1 and nexus one...

Again I will give you the app store as a slight advantage... other than that... apple makes you BELIEVE that the iphone is that end all... but its not..

I like apples computer products... but there phone/ipad/itunes ecosystem is by far the most controlling limited thing going for the devices...

Apple best feature isnt its software... or hardware.. its the marketing HANDS DOWN... they make people who know no better think that there getting the best out there... and they most certainly are not..
 
Stella said:
Yes, Apple has to appeal to the average consumer.

It also has to keep up with other smartphone OSes, otherwise it loses the edge. I'm kind of surprised that more users aren't keeping away due to multi-tasking - but that brings back your point of 98% users.

The sad thing is - when Apple do implement multi-tasking, the 98% of users will think that Apple innovated the multi-tasking phone.
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It already multi-tasks. People simply don't understand what that means.
 
Android certainly looks like it will be a game changer pretty soon unless Apple comes with some mega update in 4.0 and new hardware...

Here is quick read: http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=5946

Quote: If Apple doesn’t address a majority of the items on my iPhone wishlist (background apps, voice search, improved home/lock screens, widgets, etc.) with its “A+” release we’ll know that Jobs was just trash-talking and that Android has clearly taken the lead in the smartphone wars.
 
dgree03 said:
It not really even a matter of discussion.. there is no discussion... Iphone in its current form cannot hold a CANDLE to Adriod 2.1 and nexus one...

Again I will give you the app store as a slight advantage... other than that... apple makes you BELIEVE that the iphone is that end all... but its not..

I like apples computer products... but there phone/ipad/itunes ecosystem is by far the most controlling limited thing going for the devices...

Apple best feature isnt its software... or hardware.. its the marketing HANDS DOWN... they make people who know no better think that there getting the best out there... and they most certainly are not..
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+1

only the blinded cannot see through the mac propaganda. get what you need to do your job, there is no company that one needs to hold allegiance to, even if you own their stock.
 
Reed Rothchild said:
Is iDisk a new mutant strain of troll and fan-bot? It puts all of this technology chatter into perspective when we can truly see evolution in action.
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Haha I love this one.
But don't worry man. In here you see people maniacally in love with apple that would probably sell their wife's, girlfriend's and mother's for a new OS version so they can go back to their kindergarten class and brag about features.
But from time to time you will actually find smart and unbiased people that actually feel like talking not farting so it's all good.

"Ability to speak does not make you intelligent..." :D
 
dgree03 said:
It not really even a matter of discussion.. there is no discussion... Iphone in its current form cannot hold a CANDLE to Adriod 2.1 and nexus one...

Again I will give you the app store as a slight advantage... other than that... apple makes you BELIEVE that the iphone is that end all... but its not..

I like apples computer products... but there phone/ipad/itunes ecosystem is by far the most controlling limited thing going for the devices...

Apple best feature isnt its software... or hardware.. its the marketing HANDS DOWN... they make people who know no better think that there getting the best out there... and they most certainly are not..
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apple store is not the slight adavantage. It's the whole game changer. Apple ecosystem is virtuous for the developpers AND the customer, because of the fact that apple controls the selling and the piracy, developper feel safe to develop, and customer get used to pay for apps. That is going to be the real difference in long term between android market and app store. More user base on android, more money on apple store. Who will win, i don't know, but i know i'll probably stand on the quality side. Because i'm a lucky guy, and i can afford it :)
 
dgree03 said:
It not really even a matter of discussion.. there is no discussion... Iphone in its current form cannot hold a CANDLE to Adriod 2.1 and nexus one...

Again I will give you the app store as a slight advantage... other than that... apple makes you BELIEVE that the iphone is that end all... but its not..

I like apples computer products... but there phone/ipad/itunes ecosystem is by far the most controlling limited thing going for the devices...

Apple best feature isnt its software... or hardware.. its the marketing HANDS DOWN... they make people who know no better think that there getting the best out there... and they most certainly are not..
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Sorry, as a nexus user, I have to disagree. There's a difference between a list of features, and the actual user experience. I've put up with a lot of rubbish in my time, but this POS is going back.

I'd avoided getting an iPhone as friends and colleagues expected it, and I thought I'd try and break the mould a little. Now all my friends and colleagues have them, i see them in operation and I realise I made a mistake.

And the average consumer doesn't put up with a crummy experience - if people are unhappy they shout it from the rooftops. All I hear is the oohs and aaah of iPhone users. Marketing alone is not enough. It's the user experience, the integration of hardware and software and a certain something that ONLY Apple has.
 
nelmat said:
It already multi-tasks. People simply don't understand what that means.
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Oh come on, you know exactly what is meant.

iPhone restricts multi-tasking to Apple Apps only. No third party apps are allowed.

"Crippled" form of multi-tasking, would be a better description for iPhone.
 
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nelmat said:
Stella said:
Yes, Apple has to appeal to the average consumer.

It also has to keep up with other smartphone OSes, otherwise it loses the edge. I'm kind of surprised that more users aren't keeping away due to multi-tasking - but that brings back your point of 98% users.

The sad thing is - when Apple do implement multi-tasking, the 98% of users will think that Apple innovated the multi-tasking phone.
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It already multi-tasks. People simply don't understand what that means.
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Any chce of you telling us how your Nexus Kne has flash support already? The XDA Devs would probably love to get ahold of a rom dump from your Nexus One. The only video of flash I've seen on a nexus one is from the developers themselves.
 
BRLawyer said:
I'll answer that one for ya:

THE NEXUS ONE IS DEAD.

In other words, it's an irrelevant copycat POS that sells 1/100th of what the iPhone does in the same period of time...no wonder they are excited about getting "pinch and zoom" as if it were the second coming...expectations must be really low down there :rolleyes:
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Odds are you never even used one, just touting fanboy tripe. I've used every iteration of the iPhone and loved them all - switched to the Nexus One because I'm always curious about new technology. I had planned for it to be like other Android phones that I used for a few days then threw on eBay, but instead I ended up throwing my 3GS on eBay. The phone is superb. Media syncing could be handled better, but Songbird + Foldersync gets the job done.
 
jonnysods said:
Woooooooooooow. Welcome to 2007 Google.

Nokia will totally be suing these guys soon. And anyone else who seems to make money by selling cell phones.
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LOL you can tell by the reactions like those above that the fanboys are totally pissed!! "Woooow"-- did google make a fanfare??? Macrumors are the ones that picked this up, shouldnt bothrer anyone who doesnt use/like android.

Google were quizzed on the Nexus launch and didnt think it was a big deal. But all the whining from blogs like Gizmodo and Apple fanboys n taking the p drove them to it. And less than a month after launch.

Oh and they also added:

"Google Goggles: this mobile application will now be available directly on your device by launching it from your All Apps menu. Just use your Nexus One camera to start searching the web

Google Maps: the Maps application with be updated to a new version, Google Maps 3.4, which will include:

- Starred items synchronized with maps.google.com - access your favorite places from your phone or computer

- Search suggestions from your personal maps.google.com history - makes it easy to search for places you've searched for before

- Night mode in Google Maps Navigation - automatically changes your screen at night for easier viewing and driving"

P.S Mr Fanboy:

Did you know that its got a 1ghz Snapdragon?

How bout 5mp cam with flash?

How bout cool animated desktops?

How about widgets?

How about feature updates more than once a year?

How about going over to your friends house and ripping his songs without using his itunes and losing your entire library???

:p:p:p:p:p:p
 
Flavioparentiq said:
hmm, i have doubts for the ipad too, but the longer i think about it, the better I see it's future. The problem is that if you are a power user, then you won't see the point of having an ipad. But it the near future, i guess the ipad will be the new paradigm of portable computers, replacing the macbook line in a couple of years.

You know, it's like the iphone, it is so well built, they have calculated the perfect screen size that would make it usable to every hand, the perfect pixel per inch, a single button, only application and nothing more, easy UI with no more than 2 steps to get everywhere. the more i see it, the more I think it is a perfect machine.
This gives me the feeling of giving the ipad a chance :)

Check the dell- mini 5 if you want a cool 5" device
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Heheh - I did and I have even included a link to it (see my previous post you just quoted!)

Yes - Dell 5 looks much more to what I am after than iPad...

I agree with you in regards to iPhone and iPod Touch - I LOVE THEM!

In fact I would go that far and say that iPhone / iPod Touch are the best Apple products ever!

But as much as I am delighted with my MBP and iPod Touch I am equally unimpressed by iPad.

iPad is simply too large and way too limited feature wise to find ANY place or need in my digital life. :(
 
I have had pinch-to-zoom in both browsers since I got my Sprint Hero (Android) two months ago. This is not a European phenomenon.
 
LasVegas said:
I have had pinch-to-zoom in both browsers since I got my Sprint Hero (Android) two months ago. This is not a European phenomenon.
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I'm unsure, but did Google write multi-touch into the Hero apps (i.e. the browser) or is it part of the HTC Sense UI? That would explain why why the Hero has had multi-touch, but other Android products in the US have not.
 
D4F said:
You were always a fanboi and so you continue. BRlawyer... if you're really a lawyer then I feel sorry for you customers as you are so narrow minded that it actually hurts reading your posts.
Nexus one kills the iPhone. And it's a simple fact and not a matter of internet discussion... IF, and again IF you understand the difference between those two then maybe your next post will actually bring something to read about.
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Well, I don't know if you are aware of it, but lawyers DO take sides by definition...besides, pretty much every analysis and comparison out there did NOT conclude with the expression that the Nexus "kills" the iPhone...

http://www.silicon.com/technology/m...s-one-an-iphone-killer-not-a-chance-39741633/

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/01/06/earlyshow/leisure/gamesgadgetsgizmos/main6061941.shtml

http://www.redmondpie.com/google-nexus-one-is-just-another-droid-not-the-iphone-killer-9140305/

http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2010/01/11/nexus-one-not-revolutionary-or-iphone-killer/

Besides, when are you guys gonna learn? It's not about sheer "specs", it's about ease of use, build quality/design, integration software/hardware and content...that's why there is NO iPhone killer yet, even almost THREE years after its launch.

So you must fit in either of the following:

1 - You live in a parallel universe;

2 - you are a Google/HTC fanboy.

If the latter is the case, I am truly sorry for you; you've chosen the rotten side of the fruit.
 
nelmat said:
Sorry, as a nexus user, I have to disagree. There's a difference between a list of features, and the actual user experience. I've put up with a lot of rubbish in my time, but this POS is going back.

I'd avoided getting an iPhone as friends and colleagues expected it, and I thought I'd try and break the mould a little. Now all my friends and colleagues have them, i see them in operation and I realise I made a mistake.

And the average consumer doesn't put up with a crummy experience - if people are unhappy they shout it from the rooftops. All I hear is the oohs and aaah of iPhone users. Marketing alone is not enough. It's the user experience, the integration of hardware and software and a certain something that ONLY Apple has.
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Ok then we can agree to disagree... I have a 3gs right now and I can tell you without hesitation.. the iphone.. specwise and feature wise and implemetation wise does hold a candle to andriod/nexus... period.. end of discussion.

And every side by side comparison of the 2 phones disagrees with you whole-heartedly.

But im not blinded, andriod and nexus has some features that need fine tuning... but thats minor compared to the benefits it has over iphone..
 
Stella said:
Oh come on, you know exactly what is meant.

iPhone restricts multi-tasking to Apple Apps only. No third party apps are allowed.

"Crippled" form of multi-tasking, would be a better description for iPhone.
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Well I have multi tasking on my nexus, but the problem is, you run four apps, the phone stops working. Is that the sort of crippled multi tasking you're talking about?

Seriously - instantly flick between apps each remaining in the state it was until you return. Makes perfect sense to me and I can see how this would increase performance and reduce battery life. it's a 9.7" screen - how on earth are you gonna interact with two apps at once, other than listening to music while reading a book?
 
iDisk said:
FULL TOUCH = NO KEYBOARD OR STYLUS thus you had a NON-FULL TOUCH DEVICE
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You have conveniently ignored the majority of the previous post that you were quoting...

I had a p990i and never used its stylus- fingers worked fine, even with leather gloves on... it had 3g, wifi, push, exchange, very easy to use cut / copy / paste (which I used a lot... and missed a lot when I got an iPhone) and lots of other things that took ages to come to the iPhone. Don't get me wrong, I eventually got an iPhone when when it finally got 3g capabilities and love it, but to say it's the be all and end all is just blinkered.
 
Okay, time to call Nelmat out.

The ONLY video I can find of the Nexus one running Adobe Flash are the developers themselves. Source

Despite this we have:
nelmat said:
Sorry, as a nexus user, I have to disagree. There's a difference between a list of features, and the actual user experience. I've put up with a lot of rubbish in my time, but this POS is going back.
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and

nelmat said:
I have one. And it's not bad. But it's not the iPhone I wish I'd gotten.

Lots of headline 'features', and they do exist, they just perform like crap. When "multitasking" the phone is unbelievably slow and battery life is about 4 - 6 hours and flash - forget it. It simply doesn't work, makes the phone into a nice pocket warmer though. Browser crashes, video is choppy (when it plays at all) and - horror of horrors - you can't use farmville on it!
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And as the 3rd piece of evidence I quote this Ubergizmo review.

Adobe Flash (nope): Flash is still unsupported. The good news is that Flash ads won't show up. The bad news is that your favorite flash content/site won't work. Is this a big deal to you? Drop a comment.
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Now, do we have a troll or shill or an Adobe developer amongst us?
 
Roessnakhan said:
I'm unsure, but did Google write multi-touch into the Hero apps (i.e. the browser) or is it part of the HTC Sense UI? That would explain why why the Hero has had multi-touch, but other Android products in the US have not.
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Multi-touch has been available to the dev team since the beginning. Google has kept it turned off most likely because of Eric Schmidt and his presence at Apple. Now that Apple has officially called a war, multi-touch is open at the core level. I believe 1.5 officially opened multi-touch up for 3rd party developers.

The mapping has always been there, it has just not been switched on, presumably over legal hurdles.

As for those watering at the mouth for the Nexus One to be dead, that is a false assumption. There have been many handset makers in the past to offer sales of their device before the publicized release. I personally find this as a great business model, as if there are any errors in manufacturing, you catch it before the big batch goes out.

Look for Verizon or T-Mobile to have an "official" carrier launch with marketing and commercials. If I had to guess, I wouldn't be surprised if that began with a Superbowl slot...
 
BRLawyer said:
Well, I don't know if you are aware of it, but lawyers DO take sides by definition...besides, pretty much every analysis and comparison out there did NOT conclude with the expression that the Nexus "kills" the iPhone...

http://www.silicon.com/technology/m...s-one-an-iphone-killer-not-a-chance-39741633/

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/01/06/earlyshow/leisure/gamesgadgetsgizmos/main6061941.shtml

http://www.redmondpie.com/google-nexus-one-is-just-another-droid-not-the-iphone-killer-9140305/

http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2010/01/11/nexus-one-not-revolutionary-or-iphone-killer/

Besides, when are you guys gonna learn? It's not about sheer "specs", it's about ease of use, build quality/design, integration software/hardware and content...that's why there is NO iPhone killer yet, even almost THREE years after its launch.

So you must fit in either of the following:

1 - You live in a parallel universe;

2 - you are a Google/HTC fanboy.

If the latter is the case, I am truly sorry for you; you've chosen the rotten side of the fruit.
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Have. YOU. USED a nexus one...

Specs... Nexus wins hands down... we can agree on that, right?

Software Features- Andriod wins this one also...

Software "Polish"- Ill give this to iphone.. 3 years later and it is pretty stable and smooth... Give andriod and Nexus that long.. and I will have to reevaluate again... right now its an adult vs a new born

Hardware Look and Feel- Nexus Wins here... just on look at the device and that decision was easy...

App store- Iphone wins hands down.. just based off sheer numbers and dev support.. again.. adult vs. a baby

I can go deeper into this if you would like... but I dont think I need to
 
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