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Google Officially Unveils Next-Generation 'Android Oreo'

tucupeis said:
i will switch to android when "Android CheeseWhiz" comes out
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Mmm... cheese whiz ...

Anyway, I guess that'll be a while, for them to hit the end of the alphabet and loop around again - though I like the idea of the naming convention going savory vs. sweet :D

I look forward to Avocado, Broccoli - the aforementioned CheeseWhiz - Dijon Mustard ... etc.
 
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Not a whole lot in this update. It's pretty silly to see the Android fanboys slam iOS for lacking tons of crazy huge changes each release cycle. The same is happening in the Android camp as much as they may deny and try to deflect.

Both are now mature OS'. You aren't likely to see anything huge and groundbreaking most of the time, just as you don't see it happen with Windows. In the early years it became an expectation for many but they have to break that now.
 
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mistasopz said:
Actually this is false, it is 3 years from when the device first became available on the Google Store, or at least 18 months from when the Google Store last sold the device, whichever is longer.
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No, that's not how it was with the Nexus series, it was 18 months from first release of the device that updates would continue to be made available, not 18 months from last retail availability.

There was a huge uproar about this some time ago, because devices bought on the trailing end of the retail cycle were only going to get a few months worth of updates.

https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/help/software-update-duration-t3474187

A bit more than 18 months now; boosted to 24, but still ridiculous that hardware that can last much longer, and support the OS, gets snuffed out after only 2 years...

Oh, and 3 years of "security" updates, not OS updates, try not to skew the facts to make Android look better please...
 
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FSMBP said:
I'm not sure how competition works in the smartphone world anymore...With people invested deeply into ecosystems, it makes it a major task to switch. For example, I've purchased $300+ on movies & apps (and in app purchases) over the past 6 years. I got lightning cables galore plus I have an AppleTV. So, even if Android was slightly better than iOS, I wouldn't care enough to switch.

It's like with Apple abandoning the headphone-jack*; I want to vote with my dollars and buy a different flagship phone, but I can't because the change-over is too much of a headache. It's just easier to stay.

*I'm all for abandoning old tech, but it's asinine to say wireless headphones are the future and then ship your latest iPhone with wired headphones.
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300$? I'm into Apple for thousands lol
 
MagMan1979 said:
Nice to see those numb nuts over at Google once again ripping off functions we on the iOS side of the pond have been enjoying for years, and with little delay in receiving, unlike many sad souls on the Android pond whom almost no one ever sees any updates for their devices...

Stay classy Google, and keep those photocopiers a rollin'!
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And how long do you folks receive updates for? That's right, no more than 18 months from first release of the device, so those who bought a Nexus or Pixel mid way thru it's production run won't even get a year worth of updates!

iPhone's? We get updates for YEARS. Yeah, still a nightmare on Android!
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Meh, everyone copies now. The main reason why I'm an iOS user is speed and updates. Despite what Android users say, it's dog slow compared to iOS, especially after a year of usage.

With Apple, I was able to update my apple tv, watch, phone, mac, and tablet on day one. That's pretty slick and the devices will be supported for years.
 
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webbuzz said:
Most likely a licensing agreement similar to the one for KitKat with Nestle.

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I saw this and wondere the same thing. Then it occurred to me that Google is really an advertising company after all.
 
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MrX8503 said:
Meh, everyone copies now. The main reason why I'm an iOS user is speed and updates. Despite what Android users say, it's dog slow compared to iOS, especially after a year of usage.

With Apple, I was able to update my apple tv, watch, phone, mac, and tablet on day one. That's pretty slick and the devices will be supported for years.
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Same here, my entire device composition is Apple, and I get them all updated and support for many years, with little to no fuss or muss, on day one, never having to wait more than a few hours just due to servers getting hammered, not like the cesspool of troubles in the Android world...
 
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MagMan1979 said:
And how long do you folks receive updates for? That's right, no more than 18 months from first release of the device, so those who bought a Nexus or Pixel mid way thru it's production run won't even get a year worth of updates!
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That's just not true.
Nexus/Pixel ships with the newest (or maybe 1 month old) Android version, than gets the next 2 major versions + at least another year of security patches. Support is 3 years or more.
 
Yes. Long tap on icons for right-click UI. Genius. Very smart innovation. This changes man-machine interfaces. Very proud of the Google boys and girls for their hard work.
 
MagMan1979 said:
Nice to see those numb nuts over at Google once again ripping off functions we on the iOS side of the pond have been enjoying for years, and with little delay in receiving, unlike many sad souls on the Android pond whom almost no one ever sees any updates for their devices...

Stay classy Google, and keep those photocopiers a rollin'!
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And how long do you folks receive updates for? That's right, no more than 18 months from first release of the device, so those who bought a Nexus or Pixel mid way thru it's production run won't even get a year worth of updates!

iPhone's? We get updates for YEARS. Yeah, still a nightmare on Android!
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How long has Android had an actual file system? Quite awhile. I guess Apple is photocopying Google, amirite?

Seriously, never go full fanboy, NEVER! Both companies introduce various features that end up being successful, and the other company will end up copying it. This is competition, and it's good for consumers as everyone will be able to get useful features even if their platform didn't come up with it first.
 
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Wowereit said:
That's just not true.
Nexus/Pixel ships with the newest (or maybe 1 month old) Android version, than gets the next 2 major versions + at least another year of security patches. Support is 3 years or more.
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Security Updates do not equate to OS updates, love how this gets passed off by the Android camp as "OS updates"...

And on that note, Apple often provides critical "security" updates even after the device is totally dropped from support, Android does not.

"2 major versions" also does not specify a time line, just specified an amount of updates, which could include point releases.

Don't manipulate reality to suite your view.
 
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dallas112678 said:
How long has Android had an actual file system? Quite awhile. I guess Apple is photocopying Google, amirite?

Seriously, never go full fanboy, NEVER! Both companies introduce various features that end up being successful, and the other company will end up copying it. This is competition, and it's good for consumers as everyone will be able to get useful features even if their platform didn't come up with it first.
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There is NOTHING good in consumers getting a flaky, security-hole-riddled OS with third-world class update architecture, carriers that manipulate everything, and an App Store / OS that routinely allow virus and malicious apps thru to MILLIONS of users...

This is not a benefit to the consumer, Android is a detriment.
 
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Most Android users from my experience are just like most low-end Windows users.
Give me the cheapest thing that will do this that and the other thing. "OH, it's FREE? Even better!"

They do not think of updates or even needing them by and large.

Similarly, more Windows computers get tossed out then handed down.
Conversely, every iPhone and Mac I've used has been used by someone else after me for at least some time.
 
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MagMan1979 said:
Two? I'd say three, and even then, likely 50% of devices won't get it! Gotta love fragmentation and allowing the OEM's and carriers to control such critical aspects of these devices!
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Are you implying old deadbeat iPhones run the newest iOS?
 
Wowereit said:
That's just not true.
Nexus/Pixel ships with the newest (or maybe 1 month old) Android version, than gets the next 2 major versions + at least another year of security patches. Support is 3 years or more.
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I wouldn't waste your time. I think it is very clear from the near dozen or so frothing postings on this thread that they aren't a fan of this "cesspool of troubles" and want the world to know it. Makes me wonder how much time they have ever invested in using it to come up with such well articulated criticisms, such as the one I've quoted.
 
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I really like how they kind of do a little personification with Android and also give it cute little dessert names. It gives it more character marketing-wise I think, though it's kind of pointless I guess because who but us tech nerds even pays attention to this kind of marketing
 
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