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Google Officially Unveils Next-Generation 'Android Oreo'

bladerunner2000 said:
Are you implying old deadbeat iPhones run the newest iOS?
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Those "old deadbeat iPhones" as you so laughably refer to them still have more horsepower and ability to then the vast majority of Android phones on the market today, and the fact they can still receive new OS version with new features and the latest security update is a testament to how good they are and how long they last.

Nice try...
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WBRacing said:
I wouldn't waste your time. I think it is very clear from the near dozen or so frothing postings on this thread that they aren't a fan of this "cesspool of troubles" and want the world to know it. Makes me wonder how much time they have ever invested in using it to come up with such well articulated criticisms, such as the one I've quoted.
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I just have a decent command of the English language, and can articulate phrases like that with little difficulty.

And based on your response, you don't care much for Apple or iOS, yet you come onto an Apple news site, to disparage people supporting that platform and debunking the fallacies put forward by Android users. Your time might be better spent on a pro-Android site where Android can do no wrong in the eyes of its user base.
 
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PiP is a much needed feature for iPhone Plus. I would love to have the ability to continue watching when I just wanna check something quick.
 
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Kinda disappointed. Seems like both Android Nougat and Android Oreo are very small updates. I don't use either, but I'd love to see some innovation and competition.
 
BaltimoreMediaBlog said:
Most Android users from my experience are just like most low-end Windows users.
Give me the cheapest thing that will do this that and the other thing. "OH, it's FREE? Even better!"

They do not think of updates or even needing them by and large.

Similarly, more Windows computers get tossed out then handed down.
Conversely, every iPhone and Mac I've used has been used by someone else after me for at least some time.
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Being in tech support of Windows users, I can vouch for that assessment 100%! To them, the cheaper it is, the better, and the fact it breaks down and needs to be tossed frequently, causing environmental harm, meh, no big deal! The fact it's riddled with security holes and instabilities? Meh, fact of life! Quite sad...
 
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MagMan1979 said:
Those "old deadbeat iPhones" as you so laughably refer to them still have more horsepower and ability to then the vast majority of Android phones on the market today, and the fact they can still receive new OS version with new features and the latest security update is a testament to how good they are and how long they last.

Nice try...
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Yes and no! iPhones can get the latest ios version longer than Android phones, but not all of them can.

I've fiddled with various phones and carriers over the years and realized that if what you want is a phone that can do lots of things, it doesn't matter a heck of a lot which OS it is running. But if you decide to fully utilize the ecosystem surrounding them, then switching is a royal PITA!
 
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FSMBP said:
I'm not sure how competition works in the smartphone world anymore...With people invested deeply into ecosystems, it makes it a major task to switch. For example, I've purchased $300+ on movies & apps (and in app purchases) over the past 6 years. I got lightning cables galore plus I have an AppleTV. So, even if Android was slightly better than iOS, I wouldn't care enough to switch.

It's like with Apple abandoning the headphone-jack*; I want to vote with my dollars and buy a different flagship phone, but I can't because the change-over is too much of a headache. It's just easier to stay.

*I'm all for abandoning old tech, but it's asinine to say wireless headphones are the future and then ship your latest iPhone with wired headphones.
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When my iPhone was stolen several years ago, I thought I'd try an Android phone. While I did enjoy the experience, the fact that I had to re-buy some apps, and couldn't integrate as well into my residential infrastructure was a pain. I quickly switched back. These days the differences are so minor, you're not really gaining / losing much functionality switching back and forth. Most of the reasons I see for switching is hardware related.
 
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I spent a week using an Android phone - a year-old Edge - a couple months ago, just to see what it was like. While the screen quality was impressive, I felt that pretty much everything else in the interface was needlessly clunky, cumbersome, far too cluttered and busy, and subsequently counterintuitive. Say what you will about Apple's shortcomings - but I was very unimpressed by Android. Frankly, I feel much the same way about 3D Touch on iOS.
 
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Unless Google haven't seen fit to publish any details it seems they still haven't added a kiosk mode to Android. iOS has had one for donkeys years but Android is still stuck with home screen and overlay hacks to just barely achieve the same thing.
 
It interests me to see the negativity in this thread. I was an iPhone user, and since getting a Nexus 6P a few months ago, I've found Android to be a delightful experience.

That may be the key, however -- the Nexus 6P runs stock Android. Perhaps those of you that had a poor experience tried a phone that had a skin over the OS?
 
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Neat that Android is going to offer picture in picture, wish they expanded it in iOS. While we have picture in picture for our iPads, I am really hoping this feature will come to iPhones. Clearly we have the processing power in our pockets.
 
Google gets most of their ideas from Samsung when it comes to adding new features to their OS. Samsung phones already do so much. I'm just happy the Security updates have been consistent on my device. I'm not missing any necessary features.

See you early next year or late December Android Oreo......
 
Wowereit said:
That's just not true.
Nexus/Pixel ships with the newest (or maybe 1 month old) Android version, than gets the next 2 major versions + at least another year of security patches. Support is 3 years or more.
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You're correct. Nexus/Pixel phones get 2 years updates and 3 years for security patches. However, you have to wait up to 2 weeks to get OS updates. It's longer if you didn't buy directly from Google.

By comparison, the iPhone 5S (a 4 year old phone) will get iOS 11 this fall on day one release.
 
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v0lume4 said:
It interests me to see the negativity in this thread. I was an iPhone user, and since getting a Nexus 6P a few months ago, I've found Android to be a delightful experience.

That may be the key, however -- the Nexus 6P runs stock Android. Perhaps those of you that had a poor experience tried a phone that had a skin over the OS?
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Unfortunately, you will see that all over. Stock Android really is my favorite now. Samsung has improved TouchWiz quite a bit.

I loved my 6P and love my Pixel XL even more. I've not noticed the subtle slowdowns that I sometimes saw on the 6P.

Anyways you can't go wrong with a Pixel/6P or an iPhone tbh. It is just going to come down to personal preference.

I do enjoy charging my Pixel directly from by MBPr with a USB-C to USB-C cable. So nice... I hope Apple wakes up and just adopts USB-C for the iPhones.
 
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MrX8503 said:
You're correct. Nexus/Pixel phones get 2 years updates and 3 years for security patches. However, you have to wait up to 2 weeks to get OS updates. It's longer if you didn't buy directly from Google.

By comparison, the iPhone 5S (a 4 year old phone) will get iOS 11 this fall on day one release.
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Not necessarily. Pixels purchased at Verizon likely will get the OS the same day. I've gotten day one releases on my Pixel every time since I have had it. I will agree that Apple does have this quite a bit more fine tuned which is a good benchmark for Android to strive for. Unfortunately, with partners and their customizations it is likely that OS updates on Samsung, HTC, etc. will always come out down the road.
 
I'm not particularly loyal to either OS and have had both over the years. Whilst it's true that Apple products get longer support in terms of iOS updates I have found that updating a 4 year old iPhone with the latest iOS is far from problem free. From my own personal experience I have found it to dramatically slow the phone down and cause lag. Now the cynical side of me thinks this is Apple causing users frustration in order to purchase newer devices but Apple wouldn't do that...would they!!
 
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Android is the junk food of operating systems.
Consume it once, thrown away (don't expect your device to be updated to the next shiny thing.)
 
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