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jamezr said:
Same here.....i see AI as the next technology revolution that will springboard society. Much like when every household started getting a PC and connecting to the internet.
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Springboard society? Jumping head first into a pool of dump?
AI has already changed digital content for the worse, it’s on schedule to replace thousands of professions AND is taking a big toll on the environment.
I understand that AI is the next logical step for on-device assistance, but apart from that it’s changing society for the worse every single day.
 
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Parowdy said:
Springboard society? Jumping head first into a pool of dump?
AI has already changed digital content for the worse, it’s on schedule to replace thousands of professions AND is taking a big toll on the environment.
I understand that AI is the next logical step for on-device assistance, but apart from that it’s changing society for the worse every single day.
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I agree with this. And for all the astonishment people have with AI, its video and image generation are terrible, it’s constantly incorrect (I’m in healthcare and the fake data it spews is astounding. It speaks with the confidence of an individual who said they “did their research” in determining treatment to be invalid when that research was some idiot on TikTok), and it’s slowly making a society more comfortable with being lazy and not feeling the need to actually learn a skill set. Quite sad.
 
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cobarag said:
hope battery is better then the 9 series
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I bought a Pixel 9a to dip my toes into the Android water and the battery has been amazing. As a backup phone I've let it sit uncharged for up to two weeks no problem - no iPhones I've had has been able to do that.
 
Parowdy said:
Springboard society? Jumping head first into a pool of dump?
AI has already changed digital content for the worse, it’s on schedule to replace thousands of professions AND is taking a big toll on the environment.
I understand that AI is the next logical step for on-device assistance, but apart from that it’s changing society for the worse every single day.
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lol....they have said the exact same thing about every technological breakthrough......
Somehow society changed and jobs changed and people changed.......



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jamezr said:
lol....they have said the exact same thing about every technological breakthrough......
Somehow society changed and jobs changed and people changed.......



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Yeah, but NO technology until now was able to replicate creative and logical thought practically on its own… you couldn’t argue with a steam machine, could you? You couldn’t generate a picture with a 80‘s computer with a three word input, could you?
You couldn’t describe a scene made up in your head to anything (or anyone) in detail and have it created without lifting a finger.
NOTHING was able to practically recreate dreams, then came video generating AI. We see things on screens that never left a humans head, and now they are created without one. There NEVER was a time when creative processes didn’t need a living and breathing being to guide them until now. AI isn’t just a wheel, steam or a bunch of capacitors. It’s in the name after all.

You sound like you’d also say „every generation says the one after them is worse but it’s not“. There surely was a time when this was true, but that time is over.
Me and my sister are considered to be the same generation, but I disagree. I was born when the Walkman was still trendy, she was born the year the iPhone was revealed. I knew a world without cheap pocket computers, she never really did.
We have offloaded too much onto smartphones and the internet, young people these days are not nearly what they were 20, 40, 60 or 80 years ago.
Times are changing rapidly and so are the people living in them.
 
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Yeah, but NO technology until now was able to replicate creative and logical thought practically on its own… you couldn’t argue with a steam machine, could you? You couldn’t generate a picture with a 80‘s computer with a three word input, could you?
You couldn’t describe a scene made up in your head to anything (or anyone) in detail and have it created without lifting a finger.
NOTHING was able to practically recreate dreams, then came video generating AI. We see things on screens that never left a humans head, and now they are created without one. There NEVER was a time when creative processes didn’t need a living and breathing being to guide them until now. AI isn’t just a wheel, steam or a bunch of capacitors. It’s in the name after all.

You sound like you’d also say „every generation says the one after them is worse but it’s not“. There surely was a time when this was true, but that time is over.
Me and my sister are considered to be the same generation, but I disagree. I was born when the Walkman was still trendy, she was born the year the iPhone was revealed. I knew a world without cheap pocket computers, she never really did.
We have offloaded too much onto smartphones and the internet, young people these days are not nearly what they were 20, 40, 60 or 80 years ago.
Times are changing rapidly and so are the people living in them.
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i think you make my argument for me to be honest here.....
You probably hate the internet and all machines that connect to it... The internet was once said to be everything you posted....
Computers connected to the internet was supposed to be evil and the downfall of man kind.....

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WarmWinterHat said:
I think AI does and will have it uses, but it's not world changing.

Not with the current LLM approach, anyway
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Chatbots that use AI and LLMs are the very basic levels of AI.
There is so so much more to it than that. engaging with a chatbot is like turning on your car. There are so many YT videos that go in so much more depth and can explain it better than I can.
The gist is creating prompts using AI to do a task...
Then using those that to create a workflow....
That creates a AI agent that completes that task......in milliseconds.

Now combine 1000s agents......

We can disagree on the future and AI and all the emerging technology that is changing the world as we write on this forum.
I am not going to debate the AI issues here.....
I am not going to take this thread off topic anymore.....

Do yourself a favor and Google AI and AI agents. Listen to the TED Talk from Dr. Eric Schmidt it is an eye opener...
Look up Jensen Huang the CEO of Nvidia and watch some of his YT videos.

There is so much more to AI than just creating fake images and or videos.....
 
jamezr said:
i think you make my argument for me to be honest here.....
You probably hate the internet and all machines that connect to it... The internet was once said to be everything you posted....
Computers connected to the internet was supposed to be evil and the downfall of man kind.....

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If you really want to compare these examples of „doing something differently for the same outcome“ to literal replication of reasoning and creative processes, sure, make that flawed comparison. Those technologies were possible because of physics, AI is only possible because of analyzing what sentient beings are capable of.
None of these technologies were literally able to argue against themselves, artificial intelligence is. If that doesn’t show you how different AI is compared to anything else nothing I say will.
Given enough time you’ll eventually understand.
 
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If you really want to compare these examples of „doing something differently for the same outcome“ to literal replication of reasoning and creative processes, sure, make that flawed comparison. Those technologies were possible because of physics, AI is only possible because of analyzing what sentient beings are capable of.
None of these technologies were literally able to argue against themselves, artificial intelligence is. If that doesn’t show you how different AI is compared to anything else nothing I say will.
Given enough time you’ll eventually understand.
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I hope you do...I really hope you do.......

That is all I am going to say about AI here in this thread. I am not going to take it off topic anymore.
 
jamezr said:
lol....they have said the exact same thing about every technological breakthrough......
Somehow society changed and jobs changed and people changed.......



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Problem is, AI will take the mental jobs from humans first, leaving us with physical labor until we have robots that can build themselves and do all other manual labor. Then there is nothing left worth paying humans to do (unless it’s just cheaper to have humans do it for the while, so likely many of us will be in sweatshops or picking fruit). In the meantime I don’t think the majority of white collar employees working in cubicles will be thrilled about doing manual labor for a fraction of their previous salary

Even if it’s not sentient or anything, one by one as studies are done that show AI/robots can do a job more accurately or more cheaply (depending on the position) than most humans in a given field, those jobs will be gone with fewer and fewer new jobs to replace them. The robots will eventually build/repair themselves. AIs will improve their own code. Unemployment is going to skyrocket over the next 10-20 years, which will drive down the value of labor overall. Even a 10% unemployment rate would be catastrophic, and we could easily see it go beyond that. Humans would need to push back en masse and be willing to pay more for products/services by other humans, that will likely be inferior… I don’t see it happening, personally

AGI will be a watershed moment for the human race, this is not the same as the invention of the printing press, the cotton gin or the internet… This is us designing our own replacement as the dominant beings on this planet. I just hope it treats us better than we treat the rest of the creatures living here that we disrespect because we see them as “less intelligent life forms”
 
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WarmWinterHat said:
I think AI does and will have it uses, but it's not world changing.

Not with the current LLM approach, anyway.
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Consider it this way:

80 years ago the first programmable computer weighed 5 tons, 4.5 miles of wiring and was about the size of a shipping container. Its creators used it to crack german wartime codes. Less than a century later you can wear a device on your wrist that has more power and weighs 30g.

AI is currently in its very early stages. LLMs run on servers the size of shipping containers and still require a 'command line' to function. What will it be like in 80 years?
 
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Ctrlos said:
Consider it this way:

80 years ago the first programmable computer weighed 5 tons, 4.5 miles of wiring and was about the size of a shipping container. Its creators used it to crack german wartime codes. Less than a century later you can wear a device on your wrist that has more power and weighs 30g.

AI is currently in its very early stages. LLMs run on servers the size of shipping containers and still require a 'command line' to function. What will it be like in 80 years?
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I'm saying that I don't think LLMs are the way toward, or the future. AI could be, but it won't be an LLM.

As for the pixel 10. Wife has a 8 and didn't like the look for the 9, at all. We'll see with the 10. She doesn't use the AI tools at all.
 
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Yes, rumors are that it will be featuring new AI tools, improved cameras, and Android 16, led by the powerful Tensor G5 chip. But again, I am happy with Pixel 9S.
 
WarmWinterHat said:
I'm saying that I don't think LLMs are the way toward, or the future. AI could be, but it won't be an LLM.

As for the pixel 10. Wife has a 8 and didn't like the look for the 9, at all. We'll see with the 10. She doesn't use the AI tools at all.
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In my experience what people are looking for is above all else reliability. Pixel devices have that in spades :)
 
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Ctrlos said:
In my experience what people are looking for is above all else reliability. Pixel devices have that in spades :)
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I have no need for a new phone anytime soon, but when it's time, I'll be looking at the Pixel.

Wife used a Pixel 2 until the 8. Only upgraded because we had a free line with Spectrum, and they didn't support the 2.
 
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jamezr said:
Do yourself a favor and Google AI and AI agents. Listen to the TED Talk from Dr. Eric Schmidt it is an eye opener...
Look up Jensen Huang the CEO of Nvidia and watch some of his YT videos.

There is so much more to AI than just creating fake images and or videos.....
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I'm not going to read up on it watch TED talks, because frankly, I just don't care enough about AI to bother... I'm about as interested in the industry/research/theory/past, present and future of AI as I am about the in-and-outs of running a laundromat...which is none.
 
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