Yup. How easily face ID was mocked in 2017 by others who stated it would ‘fail’, and ‘no one asked for face ID’. Yet, they set the standard in terms of biometric security with 3-D facial mapping, which any other manufacture couldn’t even replicate at the time. Now look at Apple, they created a biometric form security that is secure _and_ separated themself from these other half- finished security options that don’t seem to work with Google/Samsung.
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Yup. How easily face ID was mocked in 2017 by others who stated it would ‘fail’, and ‘no one asked for face ID’. Yet, they set the standard in terms of biometric security with 3-D facial mapping, which any other manufacture couldn’t even replicate at the time. Now look at Apple, they created a biometric form security that is secure _and_ separated themself from these other half- finished security options that don’t seem to work with Google/Samsung.
It operates with different principles, but it has the same net effect. It wakes the phone without an explicit action as the user brings it into an operating position.
Think about it in end goals, not the typical Android spec-chasing marketing talk.
Google just wants to reduce the notorious Android lag, so they use hardware to give it more time.
And it still has a higher false reject rate than Touch ID both in normal use, and is unusable in common cases, such as in bed. Face ID was a step backwards to accommodate the bezel-less display.
It's pretty crazy to me that three years after release, Face ID is still so far ahead of the competition and nothing else is as close or reliable yet.
I pick up my iPhone and it’s unlocked. How is my life improved if it unlocks a fraction of a second faster when it’s already unlocked when I’m looking at the screen?
I don’t need a win. I’m already using the superior device/ecosystem.
Wait up. You seriously believe there are people who think google isn’t spying on them??? What planet have they been living on to think that still?
Really? I suppose most people around me were a bit more concerned about their phone's security than the average person. Almost everyone I knew used a passcode before TouchID.
Right? You can stick a finger pad reader on a phone but you won’t have TouchID. You can stick a facial whatsis on a phone, but you won’t have FaceID, no matter what your marketing materials say. Jobs was all about simple, which is absolutely not the same as simplistic. It takes great thought, care, and often intricacy to create something effective yet simple. He famously said, “Simple can be harder than complex: You have to work hard to get your thinking clean to make it simple. But it’s worth it in the end because once you get there, you can move mountains.” From iPods to iMac hinges to A-series CPU design to FaceID to the W/H SoCs, these under the hood innovations hide a great deal of tech so customers can have a smooth, simple experience. Elegance over glitz. That’s the kind of innovation I respect.
Sure...
Unrelated friends
Non-twins
Mom/daughter
Mom/son
Father/son
https://threatpost.com/researchers-bypass-apple-faceid-using-biometrics-achilles-heel/147109/
The takeaway is with Face ID the threat of a random person unlocking your phone is near zero, while with Face ID the threat of a non-random person unlocking your phone may be high (if you believe YouTube as a non-anecdotal source) but the totality of it is infinitesimal.
With the s10 the ability to snatch and unlock the phone with a non-approves screen protector is 100%.
I’ll take my chances with Face ID.
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Do you have a citation for “higher false reject” rate that’s from some authoritative source?
Aaaaaaaand, he’s back posting the same debunked videos again. Still spewing lies I see.
Do you have examples of other phones that are doing facial recognition better?
Is it just me or is *nothing* product-wise exciting anymore?! I can’t remember the last time I was like, “wow, that is god damn incredible.” Probably the original AirPods if I’m honest.
not just you.....tech hasn't been very exciting in a while. iPhones included. We are getting incremental upgrades but nothing revolutionary. Companies are running out of ideas, I think.
Sorry but I couldn't find any information to support your claim.
To me it seems that you just don't understand how the Soli radar works.
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I don't understand what lag you are talking about. What lag have you seen with Android phones when you unlock them?
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Anyway Samsung already issued an official statement. They will push next week an update to fix the issue with screen protectors that compromise S10's fingerprint sensor. So thta's the end of this story.
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Where are you getting that from?
Apple wouldn't have the option to disable attention if it works. Plus, it's useless for squinty eyes, from sun, waking up, etc. Ultimately though is Face ID false positives that allow others to unlock your iPhone is a greater issue than open/closed eyes.
Can you elaborate these scenarios because they sound absolutely ridiculous.
What criminals operate on flights and why are you routinely falling asleep in unsafe public areas?
I, not too long ago wanted to delete Whatsapp, reason, owned by Facebook, lots of friends shrugged at what I had to say, same goes for Google, most people are not aware what Google actually does, I bet that even you and me don't know the whole story on security/privacy concerning Google or others.
Nobody knows how much data companies have on us, nobody.
No, someone stole your phone, flashed it by your face, initiated a transfer to a fake bank account they had set up in advance, authorised the transfer with a second face flash, deleted all emails and push notifications confirming the transfer, and now you've lost many thousands of dollars.
Or buy Apple products. And now you've lost many thousands of dollars.
This is a very easy experiment to replicate so I suggest you try it. I have. I have never been able to make it work. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying it won't work. I am just saying it is not as easy as implied and is NOWHERE near the same as the Pixel 4 issue.
