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iOS the notifications appear on the lock screen. With details. I don't have to unlock my phone or iPad to follow a game




Please explain, it works flawlessly and has a good UI on my S3.

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Use a different launcher? Download a new ROM? You don't have to use Touchwiz. The S3 is not ugly, nor is android, what you mean to say is Samsung's Touchwiz is ugly. At that point I will have to agree with you as I have been running AOSP roms since I got my S3.

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Your first point is invalid as one extra tap is not a huge deal. I could also argue android has music/movies/apps/books all in one app while they are separate entities in iOS which creates more of a hassle. To address your second point it seems to me like you have been living under a rock. There are tons and tons of huge community and followings for android, android has a single site that is multitudes bigger than any of the apple communities; XDA has nearly 5 million users.

I will list some others below since googling is too hard for you:

http://www.xda-developers.com/
http://www.droid-life.com/
http://androidforums.com/
http://www.androidcentral.com/
http://www.androidauthority.com/

...there's literally tons of them.
 
Nothing except for the fact that Apple never made much money when it relied on the Mac. Nothing except for the fact that Apple doesn't skate to where the puck used to be. Nothing except for the fact that Apple makes pretty much nothing from selling Macs. Nothing except for the fact that years ago The Steve said apple was a mobile device company, and eliminated the word computer from the company name.

Think again: http://www.todaysiphone.com/2013/04/mac-profits-greater-than-entire-pc-industry/

Of course, relative to their iPhone and iPad sales, it's but a fraction. But to call it irrelevant, not so much.
 
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This article just proves the shift to Android devices is starting to have a major impact on Apple.

Apples stock is down $20 or 4.5% today. That's in incredible plunge.

Tim Cook still has done nothing to change the investors/analysts view on Apple and it will continue to slide until it's addressed.

No what it means is apple is a buy buy buy. Apple has been under valued for years. It is still massively undervalued. People shouid be buying apple stock.

Perhaps you do not know what drives stock prices long term?
 
I'm not surprised. All of my friends who own an Android phone pirate the apps, whereas all my iPhone friends always buy them on the Appstore.

The pathetic part is, that those app-stealing friends actually point out the possibility to easily pirate applications as one of Android's biggest qualities and say iPhone sucks because you have to buy everything, unless you jailbreake the device.

I am actually quite happy to pay a couple of € for a good app.
 
Oh yes Apple does!

Android tablets offer higher resolution screens, more eye catching features like LED Flash and built in miniSD card readers ($29 for iPad cable), $9 HDMI cables vs $49 for iPad.

Sure the iOS software is better, but that tangible features is what gets people attention more.

With the margins Apple makes they could easily reduce the price and still make a profit.

The more market share iOS losses, the less developers will make iOS apps a priority. We might start seeing Android First software development.

If business is unwilling to change strategy, they are in danger of losing in long run.

You should be teaching at Wharton or HBS.
 
Nothing except for the fact that Apple never made much money when it relied on the Mac. Nothing except for the fact that Apple doesn't skate to where the puck used to be. Nothing except for the fact that Apple makes pretty much nothing from selling Macs. Nothing except for the fact that years ago The Steve said apple was a mobile device company, and eliminated the word computer from the company name.

Macs are still linked to the continuing success of its iOS devices. Still have to develop iOS on Mac computers. No third party apps, little incentive to use iPads, iPhones & Apple TV's.

Eliminating computers from the name when it originally was named that way from the beginning. It was legal reasons for the name change in the first place, with a music studio named Apple they had to put computer after their name.
 
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Of course, relative to their iPhone and iPad sales, it's but a fraction.

Exactly. And a smaller and smaller fraction with each and every passing day.

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No what it means is apple is a buy buy buy. Apple has been under valued for years. It is still massively undervalued. People shouid be buying apple stock.

My guess is that you had the same opinion when the stock was worth $700.
 
Nothing except for the fact that Apple never made much money when it relied on the Mac. Nothing except for the fact that Apple doesn't skate to where the puck used to be. Nothing except for the fact that Apple makes pretty much nothing from selling Macs. Nothing except for the fact that years ago The Steve said apple was a mobile device company, and eliminated the word computer from the company name.

Steve Jobs also said if the Mac was it's own company it'd be a fortune 500 company. And the Mac on it's own out profits all other Non Mac desktop/notebook manufacturers.

The Mac is a core part of Apple. The just went from Apple computer to Apple cause they realised that the term computer used to fit Apple but is not relevant anymore. They don't just make the traditional computer anymore. Now they are more about improving how you live your life with their products.

Steve's exact words were "The Mac is the only one you really think of as a computer . . . so we're announcing today, we're dropping the computer from our name. From this day forward we're going to be known as Apple Inc to reflect the product mix we have today."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hM6XDqpLI3E
A link to the 2007 Macworld keynote where he said this.

You claimed that "The Steve said apple was a mobile device company,". Jobs never said or even meant this. The removal of the word computer was just to say "hey we've moved into the non traditional PC markets now so maybe removing that old "computer" term is good as it does not fit Apple so much anymore.
 
Exactly. And a smaller and smaller fraction with each and every passing day.

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My guess is that you had the same opinion when the stock was worth $700.

Are you one of the people Samsung is accused (According to BBC News) of paying to troll forums and badmouth the competition as you are the most irritating ... I've never met, you say the same thing over and over. Mac sales are down, the Macs dead blah!!!! with no figures to back this up.

I've been viewing this forum for a few years now and I am not bias, everyone is entitled to their opinion, why do you visit this site, do you have a life or do you just sit there picking holes in peoples opinion grrrrrrr:mad:
 
iOS the notifications appear on the lock screen. With details. I don't have to unlock my phone or iPad to follow a game

You can see the notification icon at the top and pull down notification without unlocking on android
 
What apps are we talking about? Some apps are worlds better on Android than iOS like Dropbox.

Temple Run 2 runs flawlessly on all recent Samsung phones, even the mid-ranges ones.

unfortunately, this is just not true.


Your apps as in the ones you download. I doubt you're a dev. As another has said and another has posted most debs choose their platform and make great apps or choose to be agnostic and make great apps for both.

I am not trying hard at all, there's no need to. I don't worry too much about other folks opinions and perceptions of tech.


oh my. you "doubt" that i'm a dev. should i be offended?
anyway, please don't tell me you expect me to remember every app i have used on android. i gave an example of temple run. that should be enough.

anyway, i don't care what you think, as you are clearly in the stages of becoming an android fanboy. at least i am willing to admit iOS has it's flaws, and apple hq is not where the 2nd coming will take place.
 
I see the same result even worse more like 95/5 for iOS Store to Google Play. I am about to release the APK for the Amazon App Store. Does anyone have input on what I will see in terms of iOS to Amazon App Store?

I update a photo app which was ported from iOS.. While I am not even ranked in the iOS I still pull around 2000 downloads a day. Where as the amazon store I am ranked 40ish in photography and get like 30 downloads. I added a paid version as well and still have not got a single download for it. Though I hear from other devs that they are earning alot more on amazon, but this is probably due to their apps being ranked high in overall ranks
 
Yeah I think you nailed it. Basically the issue I think is that search is based more on app popularity. Which is great for Twitter or Instagram. But if you are searching for an app for a specific niche you will never find it - a popular app probably stuck "manager" or some other generic term in their keywords which gets picked up by the search, then they shoot to the top because of their download counts, leaving the more specific apps you searched for way down the list.

EXACTLY. I did a test shortly after to see what results would pop up on the Google Play Store. The first 9 hits were random task managers, and network admin apps. The tenth you ask?

A TENNIS GAME!

It's why I do cherish the apps I use on the iOS side far more than the Android ones. Things is $15 for the iPad, $5 for the iPhone (the wife's copy) and $40 for the desktop version. I paid for all three. Billings is $40 for the desktop version and free (albeit it limited) for iOS. Those apps along with Daylite have no equal that I am 100% satisfied with.

oh my. you "doubt" that i'm a dev. should i be offended?
anyway, please don't tell me you expect me to remember every app i have used on android. i gave an example of temple run. that should be enough.

Don't take it as an insult. I am no dev, far from it, and leave much of my opinions related to development to myself because of it. Earlier I mentioned that I had no desire to code, even with the Adobe Creative Suite making it a tad bit easier for creative pros to get into app development.

I respect everything a dev does, but with that comes a certain bit of effort when it comes to making a product top notch on whichever platform a dev decides to put it on.

If an app sucks on Android but rocks on iOS, it's the dev's problem, not Android. Vice versa for iOS. For a long time Evernote on Android smoked the iOS version. It was pretty much the full desktop version touch enabled with a slightly enhanced UI on Android, and a dumbed down tap here tap there start writing baby UI on iOS.

That's now changed, they are now exactly the same albeit with a slightly more cumbersome settings approach on iOS. (* and it just crashed on me when I tried firing it up to see the main differences . . . but I won't hold that against them.)

In the end, the whole argument about what app looks, "polished" or "snappy" is moot. As another poster said they are buzz words that have absolutely no quantitative value. If you think so, then you think so, but please don't push them as facts and reasons for why the Apple App Store has more money flowing through.

anyway, i don't care what you think, as you are clearly in the stages of becoming an android fanboy. at least i am willing to admit iOS has it's flaws, and apple hq is not where the 2nd coming will take place.

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I am not becoming an Android fan, I already am. But as I've said NUMEROUS times I have and still love my iPad and the apps that really don't have alternatives on the Android market. Secondly, no, you aren't willing to admit iOS has it's flaws. You've pretty much sealed that deal in the first few posts. If you are willing, then you'd just have a conversation about it and move on.

If I've upset you I apologize.
 
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Are you one of the people Samsung is accused (According to BBC News) of paying to troll forums and badmouth the competition as you are the most irritating ... I've never met, you say the same thing over and over. Mac sales are down, the Macs dead blah!!!! with no figures to back this up.



"Apple has essentially halted all component orders for its Mac product "

https://www.macrumors.com/2013/04/18/apple-halting-mac-component-orders-due-to-overestimated-demand/


It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.-- Mark Twain
 
EXACTLY. I did a test shortly after to see what results would pop up on the Google Play Store. The first 9 hits were random task managers, and network admin apps. The tenth you ask?

A TENNIS GAME!

It's why I do cherish the apps I use on the iOS side far more than the Android ones. Things is $15 for the iPad, $5 for the iPhone (the wife's copy) and $40 for the desktop version. I paid for all three. Billings is $40 for the desktop version and free (albeit it limited) for iOS. Those apps along with Daylite have no equal that I am 100% satisfied with.



Don't take it as an insult. I am no dev, far from it, and leave much of my opinions related to development to myself because of it. Earlier I mentioned that I had no desire to code, even with the Adobe Creative Suite making it a tad bit easier for creative pros to get into app development.

I respect everything a dev does, but with that comes a certain bit of effort when it comes to making a product top notch on whichever platform a dev decides to put it on.

If an app sucks on Android but rocks on iOS, it's the dev's problem, not Android. Vice versa for iOS. For a long time Evernote on Android smoked the iOS version. It was pretty much the full desktop version touch enabled with a slightly enhanced UI on Android, and a dumbed down tap here tap there start writing baby UI on iOS.

That's now changed, they are now exactly the same albeit with a slightly more cumbersome settings approach on iOS. (* and it just crashed on me when I tried firing it up to see the main differences . . . but I won't hold that against them.)

In the end, the whole argument about what app looks, "polished" or "snappy" is moot. As another poster said they are buzz words that have absolutely no quantitative value. If you think so, then you think so, but please don't push them as facts and reasons for why the Apple App Store has more money flowing through.



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I am not becoming an Android fan, I already am. But as I've said NUMEROUS times I have and still love my iPad and the apps that really don't have alternatives on the Android market. Secondly, no, you aren't willing to admit iOS has it's flaws. You've pretty much sealed that deal in the first few posts. If you are willing, then you'd just have a conversation about it and move on.

If I've upset you I apologize.
i guess i didn't "read" you properly :eek: i am sorry
 
I still think it all depends on the end user. I agree about the ones that Apple really soars in. There is no sub for iWork mobile (Google Docs and Polaris are nice, but I think iWork really hits it), Things (nothing I see on Android compares), and Billings (the same as Things).

I do find myself searching for apps that mimic much of the Android UI, apps that allow me to jot down notes quickly (S Note like), and apps that allow me to sync multiple Google accounts and services.

That's just me though.

I do have to say I love Chrome and Gmail apps on my iPhone. Wish I could set them as the defaults though.
 
Are you one of the people Samsung is accused (According to BBC News) of paying to troll forums and badmouth the competition

Hmm, I think maybe you've discovered the true motivation of some of our forum members, based on their chronic need to bash Apple and praise Samsung. :eek:
 
No what it means is apple is a buy buy buy. Apple has been under valued for years. It is still massively undervalued. People shouid be buying apple stock.

Perhaps you do not know what drives stock prices long term?

It's obvious you don't. A consumer electronics company trading higher than energy and commodity companies that the entire world economy hinges upon? Unless we're all uninformed, and Apple is capable of infinite, unimpeded growth, driven by true industry changing innovations every other year, they're massively overvalued at $700.
 
I do have to say I love Chrome and Gmail apps on my iPhone. Wish I could set them as the defaults though.

That, and I wish Google would get it's calendaring in line with iCal. I don't want to delegate, I want my calendar in Google Calendar to look like iCal. I don't know who's at fault for this but I'd really like it fixed.

Being able to sync more than one Google Drive as well. Setting those apps as default, or at least hiding the stock ones would be nice. But I digress.

The services Google offers are quite nice, and really do get me close to what I'd want with iCloud. Mainly, being cross platform and in the cloud is what I needed. iWork is better IMHO, but Google Docs is universal.

I have to take back what I said about Things being the only robust to-do-list/task manager I could find. Someone put me hip to Wunderlist and I LOVE IT.
 
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