I would choose Google even if it wasn't set as the default. I've never used any other search engine except for back in the 90s when there was Yahoo and one other search page.
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Google Reportedly Pays Apple $8-12 Billion Per Year to be Default iOS Search Engine
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So here we have Apple and their constant going on about how they take user privacy seriously yet they turn around and set Google - who couldn't care less about user privacy - as the default search engine in Safari. AND take tons of money from Google when doing so.
Something smells very rotten here.
Something smells very rotten here.
That's what folks may say. Fact of that matter is, where the almighty $$$ is concerned, Apple doesn't give a flying rat's arse about user privacy.
Which Samsung had to agree to. Of course Apple is going to want their apps preloaded.
Re-read my original post. I’m talking about why Apple keeps Google as the default search engine. Nowhere am I talking about Apple getting cut off and AFAIK, Google is still the default search so they haven’t got cut off (at least not yet).
I think you’re wildly confused and I can’t keep re-explaining what I said as it’s wasting a ton of time, so I’m going to end it here with you. Have a good one.
I suppose the government (or a court) could, in a different case, force Apple to give users a choice when they set up their iPhones. I wouldn’t expect that, but it’s possible.
It won’t happen in this case though. Apple isn’t a party to this case and I don’t see the DOJ trying to add them. The DOJ isn’t even alleging a §1 violation, the kind that might involve multiple defendants.
The court in this case might order Google to stop paying Apple, and others, for default status. But it isn’t going to tell Apple what it can do in response to that.
AGAIN. Can you back up the claim that was made? What EXACTLY are they doing?
You don't think social media has emerged within contemporary human relations as a basic service, by now? I mean, I'm not sure how much more penetration in the market it would have to have, to persuade you of this. Facebook is precisely pipes in the ground. Just like the agora (i.e., "public square" principle) is like the pipes in the ground. The public have embraced Facebook and Twitter as de facto elements of the pubic square. Why should private companies run this, let alone monopolies? Something like the BBC model (the UK gov't runs it as a public trust) would be better.
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Google pays to get traffic, not to get privacy information from Apple.
Once you are on a Google website with a property they will of course try to collect as much has they can, but that is your choice staying on their websites with the browser.
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They're also governed by Irish law, Australian law, Japanese law, Chinese law, EU law... etc etc. Never say never
in Q2 2020, Google made $38.297B in revenue (just for that 3 month period). Of that, ~56% was from "Google search and other". This does NOT include ad revenue from Youtube ($3.812B) or partner networks (i.e. Google ads on 3rd party sites, $4.736B), Google Cloud ($3.007B), or other Google income ($5.124B). Net income (aka profit) for the quarter was $6.959B. And again, that's "just" one quarter.
Can anyone let us know if this huge payment to Apple covers the USA only? Or does it cover every country in which Google is set to be the default?
From what I have gathered, in China Baidu is the default in IOS. What is the default in, for example, Russia? Looks like it might have been Yandex at one point.
There is also an obvious possibility that, regardless what the USA legal system determines, other jurisdictions might see this as unacceptable.
From what I have gathered, in China Baidu is the default in IOS. What is the default in, for example, Russia? Looks like it might have been Yandex at one point.
There is also an obvious possibility that, regardless what the USA legal system determines, other jurisdictions might see this as unacceptable.
It’s questionable whether, given that Apple isn’t in the case, the gov‘t can invalidate the contract between apple and google in the first place, for the same reason.
"We create segments, which are groups of people who share similar characteristics, and use these groups for delivering targeted ads. Information about you is used to determine which segments you’re assigned to, and thus, which ads you receive."
In other words, the advertisers you see in free apps know your demographic. They might not know who you are. But they know the kind of person you are.
Why do you think there’s been some kind of conspiracy between Apple and Google to shut Microsoft out of default search on iOS? If Apple turned down $12 billion from Microsoft we would have heard about it lol.
I don’t know where you got this idea of a “competitive process” in any case. Apple’s not awarding a subcontract. Companies form partnerships with other companies all the time. There’s no requirement to shop deals around or offer the opportunity to anyone else ?♂️
Google paying $8B to be the default means people will not change the default and will use whatever was pre-set
I bet if Apple added a note next DDG in brackets saying "recommended by Apple" many people will go with that. I am huge proponent of privacy but $8B is very hard to turn down.
I use all search engines and by now Google is just a brand that people use for recognition 90% or more times all other search engines provide similar/exact results. Although I have to say that I think all search engines out there are really just relying either on Google index(StartPage) or Bing's(DuckDuckGo).
Disagreed. They will change. Microsoft Internet Explorer (now Edge) is the default browser, yet people changed to Chrome and now has more marketshare than IE + Edge + Firefox combined.
Make Altavista great again! ?
If the Justice department can find time to act Apple as an anti-trust to Google to be the default search engine on IOS , then the same can be true with Google doing the the same to users with advertising against privacy rights
When someone gets so much money, all hell breaks loose.
When someone gets so much money, all hell breaks loose.