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But what you are missing in all of this is that there is no legitimate cross-platform mobile OS like some of you iPhone users seem to want to trumpet. Just because Google offers some of their apps for iOS doesn't mean you are getting the best of Android and iOS.

There are numerous Android apps that aren't available for iOS.

There are numerous iOS apps that aren't available for Android.

Fact of the matter is, no matter what OS you pick, you'll be missing out on the chance to use some great apps.
 
Brand loyalty is fine but then you call Google a competitor. How are YOU competing with Google? Are you an employee of Apple to make that statement? This is taking brand loyalty a bit too far... :rolleyes:

OMG, please learn to read between the lines rather than writing such a ridiculous post. I'm not even going to dignify that with an explanation. :rolleyes:
 
Your analysis is very narrow sighted overall. While true that Apple not developing apps and such for Android limits the overall Android choice by not having Apple apps, taking that 1 choice away doesn't really impact anything. Now, if you prefer the Apple apps for whatever reason, that objectively makes them better for you, then so be it. The iPhone is the phone of phones. However, there are alternatives to the Apple apps available to both platforms that very well may be better. I much prefer Google Play Music to iTunes on my devices so I use that more. This makes the iPhone a much less compelling option to me as I can have the music player I want on any phone. Also, with the sheer number of apps there are for playing music, video chatting, mapping, etc. In all honesty what difference does subtracting the Apple apps really make? Unless you just happen to love them to death they make a very small percentage of a difference. 1/(x-1) in fact.

This exactly. I don't use mobile payments with my phone and don't even want to, so I can't comment on the Google/Apple pay stuff.

Even when I had an iPod Touch, I much preferred Amazon mp3, and now I prefer Google Play Music even more than that. That's available on both. I've pretty much always hated dealing with iTunes. Then there are also an untold # of apps designed to do nothing but play music stored on the phone. And of course there is the streaming services like Pandora, Spotify, etc. that are available on both.

As far as Facetime vs. Skype goes. There is one human being on the entire planet I would want to video chat with that has access to Facetime. Everyone else I would want to video chat with doesn't. Everyone can use Skype and Hangouts. So what exactly am I missing here?

Apple Watch vs. ANdroid Wear. Does anyone really expect Android Wear watches to be as deeply integrated into iOS as Apple Watch will be? ANd even if Apple Watch were somehow to be able to work with Android, do you really expect it to be as deeply integrated into Android as an Android Wear (or even a Pebble Watch now) will be?

Google Maps vs. Apple maps. There are numerous GPS apps on the market from established brands. Both Google and Apple seem to be quality competitors, but it's silly to limit it to just these two. Nokia Here Maps even tested out better than Apple Maps in this one test, which is my preferred GPS app and is available on both iOS and Android. http://features.en.softonic.com/is-...kia-here-we-put-them-to-the-test-in-barcelona

Apple fans like to brag about stuff they have that's exclusive to them, but when you become reliant on that, you are limiting yourself. Sure, Apple's exclusive offerings are strong offerings, but with Android you get quite a few good alternatives as well if you don't want to use the Google ones.

Do any of the official Apple apps not have a legitimate alternative on Android? As far as I can tell, everything does right now, whether that be an official Google app or a third party app. Aside from the mobile payments deal, but Google is working on that pretty quickly it sounds like. I know there are some niche apps or games that are exclusive to Apple, but like I said, they are niche apps.
 
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About time. I've always wanted to get the Moto 360, hopefully it will be compatible.
 
This is great news, considering the Apple Watch is quite ugly, in my opinion.

Moto 360 or the new LG Urbane, or even the new Pebble Steel all look significantly better, more modern, more mature than the Apple Watch.
 
For me this would be awesome, as I currently carry an iPhone 6, a Nexus 5, and an LG G Watch. I'd like to cut down the phones to just one, and that one would be the iPhone 6 for better camera, better battery, and better Bluetooth connectivity (not to mention the Nexus being much easier to set up to forward also SMS's in addition to calls).

With the G Watch being paired to the Nexus I naturally haven't been able to do that yet, but if I could indeed pair my iPhone with the G Watch, I could just relegate my Nexus 5 to backup phone status and wait for the second generation Apple Watch.
 
The Android Wear watch likely won't be much better than a glorified Pebble Watch. I don't think it will be able to access more than Bluetooth and other basic functionality.
 
I'm not sure why they would even bother. If they can't sell it to their own users, why waste resources trying to sell it to iOS users.
 
I may not be the candidate for an AppleWatch but I'll be damned if I buy a watch made from a competitor (Google). Chances are it won't be 100% compatible with my iPhone and I'll be at the slave of that Google for proper updates. No thanks!

You can either be a slave to Google or Apple so to speak. Honestly the Google products are more interesting in my opinion.
 
You can either be a slave to Google or Apple so to speak. Honestly the Google products are more interesting in my opinion.

And as far as Android Wear goes, Google is basically not really allowing manufacturers to skin the OS so everyone can get their timely OS updates.
 
Be interesting to see which one is more usable Apple Watch or Android Wear,
and choice is a good thing
 
Google may like to catch the market of unsuspecting Apple users who may not be be buying the :apple:watch, but they can't get me :D

I have Apple running through me,,,, and it tastes just as good..
 
Can an Android Phone change their default maps program to Apple Maps or their default music player to iTunes? Can an Android Phone even use iTunes Radio at all? No. Case closed.

So you miss out on the Apple Services.

Android has more map services available, and unlike iOS, if I get a message with an address, and I want to use Waze, I can just tap it and open Waze. There's no way on iOS for me to set it so it automatically opens Waze.

The same goes for my browser, email, photo client, auto player, default texting/messaging app, calendar, camera, etc., and unlike on iOS, where 3rd party apps become crippled and can't have direct access to system functions, Android allows its apps to. 3rd party browsers don't have to be based off of Chrome, and they aren't intentionally slowed down to promote people using Chrome, for example.


If you think wether being open or closed depends on if Apple offers their proprietary services to you, then you're horribly misconstrued. One of the things that makes Android more open is that choice to use the default apps that your OEM/Google provides, or your own 3rd party choice - something iOS doesn't let you do.
 
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are people actually hating on android because you can use apple and google services on apple phones, while on android you can only use google services?
 
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If iOS is definitely your prefered option then by definition you're happy with the defaults. So Android's "advantages" seems like a non-issue for you.

Or it's more so I understand that iOS is not perfect. Yeah, I like iOS over Android, but I still know Android does things better than iOS in some regards.
 
Well, that's hardly surprising since Apple watered down the design of the iPhone 6 enough to resemble a generic Android device. iPhones finally started appealing to the sense for design of people with no sense of design.
 
You can either be a slave to Google or Apple so to speak. Honestly the Google products are more interesting in my opinion.

Then if the Google products are more interesting then why are you here on a discussion about the AppleWatch? :rolleyes:

I mean, this discussion really isn't about Google's line of watches but rather that Google will be creating their Watch software to work on iOS. So maybe you should be on GoogleRumors.com. :p
 
Let me provide some insight on this.

I picked up a Pebble watch ($80) 4 weeks ago just to test out the smart watch idea before I decided on whether or not to get the Apple watch.

The Pebble watch relies on it's iOS Pebble app in order to push notifications from the phone to the watch.

Since the Pebble watch app is not flagged as a system process it will and can be killed by iOS if memory is needed.

I'm almost certain the Apple watch processes that will be required to run on an iPhone will be treated as a system process (like phone, music, mail) and will have immunity to being terminated.

Something to consider.
 
Let me provide some insight on this.

I picked up a Pebble watch ($80) 4 weeks ago just to test out the smart watch idea before I decided on whether or not to get the Apple watch.

The Pebble watch relies on it's iOS Pebble app in order to push notifications from the phone to the watch.

Since the Pebble watch app is not flagged as a system process it will and can be killed by iOS if memory is needed.

I'm almost certain the Apple watch processes that will be required to run on an iPhone will be treated as a system process (like phone, music, mail) and will have immunity to being terminated.

Something to consider.

That is incorrect. If you have enabled proximity and background refresh enabled for the Pebble app, then it will not be "killed".
 
You can either be a slave to Google or Apple so to speak. Honestly the Google products are more interesting in my opinion.
Hmm...the only Google product I use regularly is the Google.com...not so much because it is interesting but because it works well. I thought Android looked interesting until I bought a Motorola. Turns out that Android is not that interesting.
 
Hmm...the only Google product I use regularly is the Google.com...not so much because it is interesting but because it works well. I thought Android looked interesting until I bought a Motorola. Turns out that Android is not that interesting.

saw an interesting commentary on this from AndroidAuthority the other day which actually resonates very well with your comment and makes a lot of sense.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfmd0vjUPWg

utlimately, your normal user doesn't care that Android might be "more powerful" and "far more customizable". what matters is that the OS does the basics well. While Android does, its not necessarily enough to switch users.
 
Moto 360! :D
Love that design! I've always worn a watch and an automatic at that so I stubbornly just dismissed all smart watches instantly. But when I saw the 360 I felt a strong liking to it. So maybe I just might get a smartwatch after all! :p
 
That is incorrect. If you have enabled proximity and background refresh enabled for the Pebble app, then it will not be "killed".

That's the point I'm trying to make. If it's not an Apple watch it becomes a "make sure this is on, that is enabled" type of experience whereas with the Apple watch it's already integrated tightly into iOS.
 
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