I like this move, some of the Android wear devices look pretty nice. I bought a cheapo device the other week and it didn't work with the iPhone annoyingly, only wanted it to test to see if I like notifications on my wrist and stuff!
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Google Reportedly Preparing Android Wear for iPhone and iPad
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well this makes me lean towards android wear, because then I can change freely between phones. sounds good to me
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with respect to what smartwatch you can use, sure it is more open.
that doesn't mean you can generalize android as a 'walled garden'. if Apple shared the details with how the apple watch communicated with the iphone, I'm sure some dev could port it to android.
The OS has its own private API and the devellopers donT have access to that. Knowing details wouldn't give access to the functionality on the phone. So, a bit pointless.
Brand Loyalty? Did you bother to actually read my post? I SAID I wasn't a candidate for an AppleWatch.......but from experience when I've bought competitor's products they weren't 100% compatible.
And what's wrong with brand loyalty? Do you have a problem with that? That's my right isn't it?
Brand loyalty is fine but then you call Google a competitor. How are YOU competing with Google? Are you an employee of Apple to make that statement? This is taking brand loyalty a bit too far...
Well if android devs had access and docs regarding this private api, I'm sure they could get it to work on android - that's what I mean. It's more about Apple guarding the functionality, rather than it being impossible.
Thank-you for taking the time to respond to my request - - I'll just have to take your word for the fact that they're all "great".
They guard the functionality to insure they control the experience; messing with private low level API's is recipe for dog level performance if you don't do it carefully as they tend to have access to more resources. This makes them more powerful, but also more risky to the the overall platform.
BTW, do you think all Google's API's are public?
Also, private API's can change according to the whim of Apple (they can overhaul things, change the underlying tech), without breaking anything on the developer side. Another reason your not allowed to use them.
just saying the only reason you cant use the apple watch on android is apple.
I wouldnt be too worried about breaking the apple watch in attempts to get it to communicate with android, sure there will be bugs and it would get messy, but thats how anything unofficial starts. It's basically impossible to brick ios devices, at least currently
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Apple making its watch exclusive to iOS and Android being open to iOS makes Apple a closed platform
I wonder how much functionality will cross over.
With Pebble Time, a lot of the good features are android only since iOS does not allow certain functionality to developers.
I'm guessing Android wear would be the same. Most likely limited notifications like current gen pebble. So no replying, to txts or emails.
I like the looks of the Moto360 more than the apple watch. But since I use an iPhone, the Apple watch will be better integrated and probably the better option.
With Pebble Time, a lot of the good features are android only since iOS does not allow certain functionality to developers.
I'm guessing Android wear would be the same. Most likely limited notifications like current gen pebble. So no replying, to txts or emails.
I like the looks of the Moto360 more than the apple watch. But since I use an iPhone, the Apple watch will be better integrated and probably the better option.
Apple Watch can't be used with Android because Apple Watch has not been coded to support Android. It's not some deficiency in Android.
It is possible to brick them if you had unfeatered access to the device that private API offer (the private API would be running on the Iphone). Android gives a bit more access to the resources, but not all of them.
Its not available
Apple watch cant be used with Android because Apple watch isnt available yet. Who knows what we will be able to do with either platform in the future. At first you couldnt airplay your android screen to an apple tv, now that is possible with software. You couldnt use iTunes on your android. DoubleTwist fixed that right up.
If you allow two devices to talk through and API you can bet there is going to be a developer that will figure out some way to translate those commands between multiple platforms. Someone already did it with the Moto 360 and an iPhone. Thats without any documentation whatsoever. The game will change once Apple releases the keys for iPhones to talk to Apple Watches. Lets just hope that Apple doesnt continue to limit the functionality as per usual.
Furthermore that Apple watch is ugly, the moto 360 is so much sexier.
Apple watch cant be used with Android because Apple watch isnt available yet. Who knows what we will be able to do with either platform in the future. At first you couldnt airplay your android screen to an apple tv, now that is possible with software. You couldnt use iTunes on your android. DoubleTwist fixed that right up.
If you allow two devices to talk through and API you can bet there is going to be a developer that will figure out some way to translate those commands between multiple platforms. Someone already did it with the Moto 360 and an iPhone. Thats without any documentation whatsoever. The game will change once Apple releases the keys for iPhones to talk to Apple Watches. Lets just hope that Apple doesnt continue to limit the functionality as per usual.
Furthermore that Apple watch is ugly, the moto 360 is so much sexier.
I'm not so sure about that. According to the jailbreak community, the only way current gen devices are bricked is messing with something called NVRAM, something that has an effect during the boot process. It's over my head. Sure you can make your device need a restore doing other things, but not bricked.
I'm pretty sure rooted ios / android has access to everything. I do believe the (full) bluetooth stack on cydia is similar to a private api and it works great
It's been the same way for software and 3rd party apps. I can use Keynote, Powerpoint, and Google Doc's crappy presentation app on the iPhone. On Android you've been stuck with Google's weak app. You finally can use powerpoint now I think but still can't use Keynote and likely won't ever have the option.
There are lot's of examples like this but having an iPhone means you get the best of Apple, Google, Microsoft, and countless other 3rd party developers. There isn't another platform that offers you this especially since you can only get Apple software on iOS but also since every developer (including Microsoft and Google) want and need iPhone users.
Its the same concept on an Android device. If you get into the NVRAM you can wipe out the bootloaders which bricks the device. Almost all devices nowadays have those locked up pretty tight though. You can wipe out the whole OS and have nothing to boot to but if you can get your device into a bootloader state you can reinstall recovery and sideload roms to recover your OS.
You're right, not technically bricked, since you could restore the OS and delete the offending app with hooks into the OS.
But, that would render you Android watch useless, or your phone would be useless if used with the watch; the result would potentially not be great for those potential Android watch users.
That's what Apple will try to prevent at all cost.
Apple will never allow a device to compromise the overall experience; that's what they sell.
Anyone who has dealt with supporting devices for non tech oriented people would know that the difference between really bricked (nobody can fix it) vs figuratively bricked (only someone technically savvy can fix it) is not really clear to them when the thing happens. In my head, that's how I thought of it because I've had to do this kind of support often.
Of course advertisers (in this case, Google) would want to be on the iPhone. Makes perfect sense.
Brand Loyalty? Did you bother to actually read my post? I SAID I wasn't a candidate for an AppleWatch.......but from experience when I've bought competitor's products they weren't 100% compatible.
And what's wrong with brand loyalty? Do you have a problem with that? That's my right isn't it?
You're in luck though because Google doesn't make any watches.
After owning a Pebble watch for a few months and dealing with its limitations on iOS, I have a feeling all these new Pebble Kickstarter backers and those who will be purchasing Android-based watches will be disappointed. The Apple Watch will be much more deeply integrated with iOS, and there will be fewer annoyances using it with the iPhone. Now if I could just get over spending $350 for a Watch that I have to charge daily...
You couldn't have made a more incorrect statement than this: "On Android you've been stuck with Google's weak app."
There are quite a few alternatives to Google Slides. There is Microsoft Office Mobile, OfficeSuite 8, Polaris Office, WPS Office, DocsToGo. I'm sure there are others, but those are a few.
"There are lot's of examples like this but having an iPhone means you get the best of Apple, Google, Microsoft, and countless other 3rd party developers."
You only get SOME of the best of Google. There are no official apps for Keep, Googles, Calendar, Google Opinion Rewards, Google Camera as far as I know. And there is the more limited abilities of Hangouts/Google Voice that I previously touched on. The limitations with Hangouts/Google Voice would actually prevent me from ever switching to an iPhone unless I had no other choice.
While some of Google is better than none of Apple for some folks, I'm not exactly missing out any of Apple's offerings as Google's are frankly better, especially on the maps side. Been off the iOS ship for several years, not once have I yearned for the official Apple email, browser, maps, etc. apps. It was actually refreshing to be able to use gmail as my official email app! Perhaps other for iOS users miss some official Apple app, but I sure as heck don't.
You only get SOME of the best of Microsoft. I don't see an official Torque app, Next lock screen, keyboard for excel, or picturesque lock screen.
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Your analysis is very narrow sighted overall. While true that Apple not developing apps and such for Android limits the overall Android choice by not having Apple apps, taking that 1 choice away doesn't really impact anything. Now, if you prefer the Apple apps for whatever reason, that objectively makes them better for you, then so be it. The iPhone is the phone of phones. However, there are alternatives to the Apple apps available to both platforms that very well may be better. I much prefer Google Play Music to iTunes on my devices so I use that more. This makes the iPhone a much less compelling option to me as I can have the music player I want on any phone. Also, with the sheer number of apps there are for playing music, video chatting, mapping, etc. In all honesty what difference does subtracting the Apple apps really make? Unless you just happen to love them to death they make a very small percentage of a difference. 1/(x-1) in fact.