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Google Reportedly Prepping Android-Based iPad Challenger

Black Belt said:
A camera would add a buck, an HDMI port would add less than a dime.
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And tell me what the need for a camera is? After all i suppose if the ipad did have a camera then people would be complaining it didn't have a camera flash. :rolleyes: People just love to attack apple.

I don't think the average consumer is would like to hold the ipad up infront of places and take pictures with it. And the macrumors needs are different from the real world consumers needs.

This whole obession with cameras is just stupid. Most people i know barely use the one that's on their phone.
 
SBlue1 said:
why the hate?

competition ist good. :) who cares who was first, its about who is better. by the way, apple was not first at all... just google for dynabook. :)

i looove competition. it lets the consumers decide what they like more. so it forces companies to rethink their strategies if they see some other products are better and steal some precious marketshare.
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Because these are truly hypocritical, monstrous (and I can't underscore that enough), cult brain-abducted, fanboy ******s totally incapable of rehabilitation into a logcial "pros" and "cons" way of thinking of the tech sector. Pure and simple. :)

Truly, it IS black and white to these scumbags:

* Apple is always a pro, never a con (d**kheads L*T*D and LagunaSol are proof of this mush-for-brains)

* Anything non-Apple is instantly pure s**t, even w/out knowing the specs.

* They world revolves around this powerful cult known as Apple, Inc. and Nokia actually COPIED Apple when they (Nokia) became the cell phone industry leader back in the late-1980's. I guess to fanboys, Microsoft copied Apple when they pioneered the P.C. And in the early-1990's, when a half a dozen tech companies invented the MP3 player, THEY copied Apple's iPod.

Love the way they rewrite history? Well, ONLY Apple is allowed to do that.
 
JediZenMaster said:
Last time i checked flash was only on certain android 2.1 devices and its in beta. So much for that "Open Screen Project" Seems like Android can talk about the dance but actually can't dance
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Exactly. And unlocking Android devices like the N1 to modify the OS actually voids the warranty... Really open huh?
 
Party time for Apple.

Eric Schmitt trying to channel Steve Jobs with his party buddies. What does a CEO do when he doesn't have a product yet?
 
JediZenMaster said:
That would be iphone 4.0 But what im saying is up untill 3.0 apple supported all variants of the the hardware. Granted some features were avaiable depending on the model. But it was supported.

Unlike Android where the Hardware is not upgradedable. So Tell me will the average consumer want an ipad that is going to have future updates available to it? Or would they want an android device where they buy it and then find out its not upgradable.

Considering that america is in the 2nd great depression people don't have money to keep buying devices that are going to be dead end paperweights as soon as they buy them.
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I'm sorry, what? What part of the iphone's or ipad's hardware is upgradable without purchasing a new unit? Android OS is upgradable, just like the iPhone.

You're still avoiding the point that OS 4.0 won't be available to 1st gen Iphone and limited features to the 3G, yet you complain that Android isn't upgradable to all devices. Yet, it is.
 
JediZenMaster said:
igxqrrl said:
Oh good, I can't wait to use multi-tasking on my iPhone 3G. What? I won't be able to?/QUOTE]

That would be iphone 4.0 But what im saying is up untill 3.0 apple supported all variants of the the hardware. Granted some features were avaiable depending on the model. But it was supported.
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So what you're saying is that the iPhone's software was upgradeable until... it wasn't. I think it's safe to say this is true of every device ever created by any manufacturer.

Unlike Android where the Hardware is not upgradedable.
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I'm baffled by this statement. The iPad hardware is not upgradeable either.

So Tell me will the average consumer want an ipad that is going to have future updates available to it? Or would they want an android device where they buy it and then find out its not upgradable.
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As has been pointed out, Android devices are not inherently un-upgradeable. I'm resisting the urge to point out that the coming upgrade for the iPad will simply enable features already available on Android devices (as well as virtually every other modern computing platform).

Considering that america is in the 2nd great depression people don't have money to keep buying devices that are going to be dead end paperweights as soon as they buy them.
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Anybody feeling the effects of the current recession who buys a first generation iPad or google tablet gets very little sympathy in my book.
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ipoddin said:
I'm sorry, what? What part of the iphone's or ipad's hardware is upgradable without purchasing a new unit? Android OS is upgradable, just like the iPhone.

You're still avoiding the point that OS 4.0 won't be available to 1st gen Iphone and limited features to the 3G, yet you complain that Android isn't upgradable to all devices. Yet, it is.
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Okay upgrade a G1 to android 2.1 then? You can't. And lets see the iphone 2G was upgrable to 3.0 it got things like the app store. Iphone 3G and 3GS will be upgraded to 4.0 and get multitasking.

Ipad will be upgraded to get multitasking.
 
HDMI for a device that doesn't output in HD.... Why? And I don't want a device that is covered in ports! The seamless aluminum enclosure with a single port on the bottom is amazing as is.
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Perhaps you missed the post I was responding to. If you check my post again, you'll see that I very plainly quoted it. Just look directly above my text.

But here, I'll help you out by quoting it again:

As far as a tablet i don't think they could make a cost effective tablet. First of all if you add hdmi,a high MP camera,front facing camera there is no way that a vendor could offer a tablet with those features for 499 dollars.
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There. With that context, hopefully you'll be able to better understand my point.
 
JediZenMaster said:
Okay upgrade a G1 to android 2.1 then? You can't. And lets see the iphone 2G was upgrable to 3.0 it got things like the app store. Iphone 3G and 3GS will be upgraded to 4.0 and get multitasking.

Ipad will be upgraded to get multitasking.
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What about the upgradable hardware you mentioned?

Update a 1st gen iPhone to 4.0 this summer? You can't.

Iphone 3G will not get multitasking. Only the 3GS gets multitasking. Even former iPod Touch owners are out of luck with regards to getting multitasking depending on which version you have.

Still want to go round in circles?
 
JediZenMaster said:
And tell me what the need for a camera is? After all i suppose if the ipad did have a camera then people would be complaining it didn't have a camera flash. :rolleyes: People just love to attack apple.

I don't think the average consumer is would like to hold the ipad up infront of places and take pictures with it. And the macrumors needs are different from the real world consumers needs.
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I'm sorry, but I think you are missing the obvious use of a camera on the iPad. It's not to take pictures, it's for video-conferencing. You know, talking to Grandma. That kind of thing. It's a horrible oversight, and one that will no doubt be rectified in the next generation of iPad. It's likely to be present in the first version of most competing tablets.

This whole obession with cameras is just stupid. Most people i know barely use the one that's on their phone.
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Perhaps the people you know don't, but I think you'll find that many people do. According to the Flickr Camera Finder the iPhone is the most popular camera used on the popular photo sharing site.
 
google-optimized, flash built-in chrome on a tablet with usb/hdmi ports; adobe/google can stick it to jobs. a better device then ipad, oh yeah. i can't wait to compare the two.
 
acurafan said:
google-optimized, flash built-in chrome on a tablet with usb/hdmi ports; adobe/google can stick it to jobs. a better device then ipad, oh yeah. i can't wait to compare the two.
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I'm amazed how many people are claiming flash is a major selling point for them. Adobe must be proud.
heavy2healthy said:
now i wonder if Google got angry enough.Would they to pull all apple search terms from the search engine?
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Google wouldn't sensor its own search db.
 
uberamd said:
This. My little sisters (elementary school age) can figure out the iPod touch with ease. They cannot however figure out my G1 or Nexus One. More menus and less intuitiveness don't make for a better power user experience, they make for a overall worse experience. I use Apple stuff because I value my time and the simplicity of their devices reflects that.
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Wait, because a child in elementary school can use an iPod Touch, then it must be great for an adult to use too? I never understood this logic. Are you saying the ipad/touch is great for a person with the mentality of child in elementary school? Can you further explain this?
 
igxqrrl said:
I'm sorry, but I think you are missing the obvious use of a camera on the iPad. It's not to take pictures, it's for video-conferencing. You know, talking to Grandma. That kind of thing. It's a horrible oversight, and one that will no doubt be rectified in the next generation of iPad. It's likely to be present in the first version of most competing tablets.
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I Don't think so. Camera's won't be a big selling point for tablets. Unless you have proof that camera's is a highly wanted feature for tablets because i haven't seen that on a wishlist
 
The more competition the better in this industry, but I don't really see why people copy each other when there's tons of new ideas waiting to be innovated.
 
kas23 said:
Wait, because a child in elementary school can use an iPod Touch, then it must be great for an adult to use? I never understood this logic. Are you saying the ipad/touch is great for a person with the mentality of child in elementary school? Can you further explain this?
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It is intuitive. Anyone can use it, it is simple and powerful. Android is not intuitive at all. Sorry, it isn't. Your average consumer cares about that.
 
uberamd said:
It is intuitive. Anyone can use it, it is simple and powerful. Android is not intuitive at all. Sorry, it isn't. Your average consumer cares about that.
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Exactly! People on this forum seem to think everyone is obssessed with OLED and hdmi. The average consumer does not care about that. Why can't people get that what macrumors users want and what the general public want are 2 different things :D
 
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