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I should have been more condescending and ended with —

'It's a waste of time beating at Apple haters at MacRumors cause they are not going to understand anything anyway!'

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The benefits that you previously gained out of Google maps was a result of all this crowd sourcing. They just didn't build their data base in a day.

Technology cannot be built in a day. It's a result of years of effort especially when it comes to subjects under AI.

One would be dumb to simply not understand that. If you need a tool, buy a new phone. No one is forcing you to use it. You've to pay the cost of time when there's a new technology out there.

Nah, you are the one not getting it, Apple's map app up until this one used Googles data to give us an app that worked seamlessly with contact addresses, powerful search results, walking and public transportation routes, clear satellite imagery, easy to read traffic graphics, lots of points of interest and street view to add to the value of how easy and intuitive the user interface and operating system is on the iPhone. Many millions of people have come to expect and rely upon this level of mapping technology integration from Apple....

Now we no longer have many of those hallmarks, the ones we strongly considered when buying an iPhone or iPad. Instead, we have a new platform that is a significant step backwards in terms of the above. So instead of doing something to bridge the gap as to not screw over those of us who have come to count on the previous Apple Map application as being as innovative and reliable as the products them selves, we are told "Tough, adapt!" By the likes of you.

No, this is not ok...

It is ok if we have to wait an iOS or two until this rivals Maps iOS 5, but it is NOT ok to tell us that we no longer have a choice in as robustly a considered tool.

Tough, adapt is not ok...
 
On of the few times Apple fanatics are actually rooting for Google!

;)

Why would this make me root for Google? I hated Google Maps. I, personally, have had no issues with the new Maps app so far, and I think it is already better in a lot of ways. Even if I was experiencing major problems with it, I would just use my Garmin app or Waze.
 
Why would this make me root for Google? I hated Google Maps. I, personally, have had no issues with the new Maps app so far, and I think it is already better in a lot of ways. Even if I was experiencing major problems with it, I would just use my Garmin app or Waze.

Wow, well I suppose if you don't mind it telling you you're in the water when you're nowhere near, or vice versa.... Hope this app comes out before the NZ release of the 5 next Friday, then I'll never have to open Apple's "implementation" on my own phone :D.
 
Even if Apple would approve the Google Maps app quickly it would still have several downsides compared to the way it was before iOS 6.
Sure, it has the potential for Google being able to update it more often at their own will and that side could be great, but yeah, it would never get the same system integration, ever.
Just as example: Apps that use map data under iOS 6 and use the sdk features for that will basically open an Apple maps app maps view, not some third party maps app´s view. So then as long as Apple maps app data is as bad as it is right now in most countries, the maps shown by any other third party apps using the system apis for showing maps under iOS 6 would show the same bad maps data.
Other third party apps wanting to show a map using iOS 6 maps api would not suddenly show them using google´s maps data just because a user installed that app, too.
Until (if ever) Apple changes that end, so by let´s say doing that more like Android and Windows Phone OS have it where different apps can get registered for providing some sort of functionality and then the user can choose which app to choose/use as default when needing that functionality, well, until Apple would change to something like that, third party Maps apps would always be not as well integrated compared to the default maps app and also not be choosable by third parties to be used for showing maps views when calling maps apis in iOS 6+ sdk calls.
And yeah, its unlikely Apple would open up to user choice that much on iOS if not totally being forced into it.
 
ok i have one rule about this and every other part of iOS. IF THERE IS ALTERNATIVE TO A PROBLEM YOU HAVE WITHOUT HAVING TO PAY ANY MONEY, DON'T FU**IN COMPLAIN ABOUT IT! For example, no native youtube app built in, or even maps because there are web apps and other services that work just as well.
Please educate me how to enable Street View on the web app. Stop the 'just as well' BS.
 
This is exactly what I'm hoping if Google will include a turn by turn navigation on that map. But it seems that all the complains about the new iOS 6 map is all staged. Seriously nobody uses that google map for navigation prior iOS 6, therefore the claim that old map is superior is false. By this time you should already have your third party navigation app, if you use your phone as a gps navigation. I'm surprised that Apple didn't labeled their new map as beta that was stupid in my opinion. For now when I get my iPhone 5, I will only use the new map for fun or local search location. My MotionX GPS Drive is serving me really well before I jump into this new map.
 
This is exactly what I'm hoping if Google will include a turn by turn navigation on that map. But it seems that all the complains about the new iOS 6 map is all staged. Seriously nobody uses that google map for navigation prior iOS 6, therefore the claim that old map is superior is false. By this time you should already have your third party navigation app, if you use your phone as a gps navigation. I'm surprised that Apple didn't labeled their new map as beta that was stupid in my opinion. For now when I get my iPhone 5, I will only use the new map for fun or local search location. My MotionX GPS Drive is serving me really well before I jump into this new map.

You should check the stats before claiming things as if you´d know what most people are doing. Based on the stats the google apps maps app was one of the most used iOS apps since the first introduction.
 
I think Apple will eventually get there. Don't forget that Google got a 7 year head start and I think that for a first product Apple actually did very well.

And Apple cut them off and implemented a completely untested system, that is missing essential and basic features...!
 
You should check the stats before claiming things as if you´d know what most people are doing. Based on the stats the google apps maps app was one of the most used iOS apps since the first introduction.

I use the map too a lot but mostly location search. The stats is right it's one of the most used app on iOS but not for driving navigation. Most of the complaints right now are from the people who used the new map for their driving direction, which I assume is not a good GPS Navigation for now compared to a third party apps.
 
I have 2 questions:

1) Why the hell would Apple approve an App that they have been aggressively trying to get rid of for the last 2 years?

2) Why the hell would Apple buy 4 companies to create their own map App and still allow Google's map (which duplicates a core iOS functionality) to compete with them?

It will rain iPhone 5s all over us before Apple ever lets Google taste another sliver of its customer base.

My guess is no way we are seeing a Google Map app going through.
 
I have 2 questions:

1) Why the hell would Apple approve an App that they have been aggressively trying to get rid of for the last 2 years?

2) Why the hell would Apple buy 4 companies to create their own map App and still allow Google's map (which duplicates a core iOS functionality) to compete with them?

It will rain iPhone 5s all over us before Apple ever lets Google taste another sliver of its customer base.

My guess is no way we are seeing a Google Map app going through.
You will be proved to be wrong.
 
Thank goodness.

Apple will have a PR nightmare on its hands unless it quickly approves the app.

Agreed. Did Apple not see this coming? And now Google has the option of not only matching the quality of the previous Maps app, but improving on it. What a way to make Apple look bad on their own platform! Somehow I think Apple might have bought themselves into a lose-lose situation here.

Good for the consumer though.
 
Well that's a cool rule. I hope you're not a boss/CEO.

Actually that's kind of apple's unspoken rule, I just vent on here because people ignorantly complain about stuff that's fixed as just by downloading a free app. That's kinda the point of the App Store.
 
I use the map too a lot but mostly location search. The stats is right it's one of the most used app on iOS but not for driving navigation. Most of the complaints right now are from the people who used the new map for their driving direction, which I assume is not a good GPS Navigation for now compared to a third party apps.

I used Google´s maps app on my iOS devices everytime i travelled to foreign places and even in my local area mostly, too. For on foot or public transport navigation mostly.
For navigation via car i use tomtom and even for public transport i also used some third party apps in between.

The thing is Apple´s maps app in most countries around the world is worse than Google Maps for public transport, on foot navigation and by car navigation. So, hm..

Sure it has potential to be great at some point in the future.
Doesn´t change the point that it was a very bad choice by Apple to replace Google´s map app before that´s the case in most countries around the world.

I´m also annoyed because while there is the likely chance Google can release a Maps app in the app store, even then other third party iOS apps which use ios sdk api calls to show map views will under iOS 6 then use the Apple maps app for that.

So yeah, hence me not "upgrading" any of my iOS devices to iOS 6 and also not buying an iPhone 5 now until i see serious improvements there on Apple side.
 
You know, keep telling that to yourself.
You are probably that kind of person that will defend Apple no matter what. That's fine, but don't expect anyone to agree with you here.

Well I honestly believe that it's just out of ignorance that people complain about things like maps or other things of that nature. In this case there is such thing as an effective quick fix, but people refuse to accept it.

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web google maps is not the same, why shouldnt we complain? we are the reason the stock keeps on climbing. it would be stupid not to listen to us.

So what exactly are you complaining about. This whole article is about how there will be a native google maps app in a matter of days.

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I AGREE... there are 700,000 apps on iphone and they cover all needs..

Exactly and complaints like this really just make the critic seem ignorant.

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Ehh, this is the native mapping solution that all other apps leverage - it's not just about being a single app that doesn't work well, it extends all over the place.

This is true, however, however this criticism is still ignorant as it is just day one. If the public saw the difference between beta one and the public release they would be shocked at how far it's come. And technically speaking developers can still op to enter google maps in their code. It's harder but if they really have that big of a problem then that's their choice.

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Please educate me how to enable Street View on the web app. Stop the 'just as well' BS.

So you don't think the new google app will have street view? That's what this is all about. I'm not directly inferring that the google maps web app is great but frankly neither was the native app, and the web app still gets the job done. And can anyone advise me of what the productive purpose of street view is. I'm not criticizing it I just never saw a use for it.
 
I have 2 questions:

1) Why the hell would Apple approve an App that they have been aggressively trying to get rid of for the last 2 years?

2) Why the hell would Apple buy 4 companies to create their own map App and still allow Google's map (which duplicates a core iOS functionality) to compete with them?

It will rain iPhone 5s all over us before Apple ever lets Google taste another sliver of its customer base.

My guess is no way we are seeing a Google Map app going through.

So, you like the fact that a corporation will not let their consumers have a choice to get a clear superior product just because they don't like them? Apple looks like a pansy through this whole ordeal.
 
restraint of trade, perhaps?

I have 2 questions:

1) Why the hell would Apple approve an App that they have been aggressively trying to get rid of for the last 2 years?

2) Why the hell would Apple buy 4 companies to create their own map App and still allow Google's map (which duplicates a core iOS functionality) to compete with them?

It will rain iPhone 5s all over us before Apple ever lets Google taste another sliver of its customer base.

My guess is no way we are seeing a Google Map app going through.

Look at all of the trouble Microsoft got into just for making it easier to use Internet Explorer than to download and install another browser....

If Apple refuses to allow the Google app, it could waken some sleeping giants.

But, I hope that Samsung quickly comes out with some ads showing people using maps on Galaxy S3 getting to their destinations on time - and people using Apple maps lost and stuck in amusing, absurd situations due to Apple's errors. :D
 
I hope Apple rejects this ridiculous app. It duplicates existing functionality built into iPhone. It's not needed. The entire iOS universe must come together to support the new Apple mapping technology.
 
Another Apple maps fail. Asked Siri to take me to a local car dealership that has been there for at least a decade or more and shock of all shocks, it told me my destination was on the right about 2 miles short of where the place actually is!!!!!!

This software is crap, I had to go through Safari and google maps online to find the real location of the dealership.

I'm so pissed off that this feature was so great on my Android phone but everything else sucked, was awful on my 4S but everything else was great, is no going to suck worse then all iterations before it while hopefully the iphone5 doesn't suck. Navigation is the one thing that I would make a high enough priority to change my mind about a phone.

If my iPhone 5 was not sitting in a Fedex location about an hour from my house right now I would be tempted to cancel and go a different route at this point.
 
Just watch the most predictable event ever in the Universe: Apple rejects or indefinitely delays the approval of the Google Maps app for iOS.

And they get away with it.
 
That was fast. I wonder now it makes the android guys feel that google updates iOS faster than they do Android lol
 
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