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Not at £380, Many will opt for the Nexus 5 instead. I'm thinking of returning mine too...

This is one of the reasons iOS will continue to remain my primary platform of choice.

First it was Palm, then RIM, then Motorola, then Nokia, then Motorola again.

Ya - I guess my 2014 Android choices now become either the HTC One (2014) or the Nexus 6. I wasn't really going to upgrade my Android device, but I might now....
 
Lol so Apple sells 52 million iPhones (more than any quarter in their history), pockets $13 billion and their stock plummets.

Meanwhile, Google says "oops, we wasted $12.5B on Moto - here Lenovo takes this off our hands for a $9.5B loss" and their stock is up.

What....that....what?


Perhaps because of that:

At $12.5B, Motorola is Google’s largest acquisition to date. Google paid $40 / share in cash, but received ~$11 / share in cash and $8 / share in deferred tax assets. Thus the value ascribed to operations + patents was about $21 / share, or $6.3B, reflecting a multiple of ~0.5x sales and 12x EBITDA. Now adjusting this further for the $2.35B total consideration Google is expected to receive for the Motorola Home business, we get a purchase price of just under $4B for Motorola's handset business and patent portfolio (17K patents and 7.5K patent applications). This compares very favorably to recent patent deals such as Apple, Microsoft, RIM, Sony, Ericsson, and EMC paying $4.5B for 6K patents (July ’11) and Microsoft paying $1B for 800+ AOL patents (April ’12). Based on a sum of the parts, one could conclude Google acquired either the handset or its patents for a very minimal cost.

http://www.zdnet.com/googles-motorola-purchase-was-it-worth-it-7000009356/

If the reports are accurate, Google will keep most of the patents or will cross licence them.

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And it is official, $2.91 billion and Google will retain the vast majority of patents.

http://googleblog.blogspot.com.es/2014/01/lenovo-to-acquire-motorola-mobility.html
 
Might have as much to do with keeping the other handset makers happy, and don't forget that Google just got even tighter with Samsung. Being a handset maker has been very awkward from the beginning given the rotation system for Nexus phones. They bought Moto primarily for patents.

As a Moto X owner, I do hope that the lineage continues. This is THE Android phone for people who like the iPhone size, want a bigger screen, a lower price point, and/or the flexibility of Android. I still like iPad/iOS better for the tablet form factor, but a modern Android device like Moto X has passed the iPhone in my book (and my wife has a 5s for comparison sake).
 
Perhaps because of that:



http://www.zdnet.com/googles-motorola-purchase-was-it-worth-it-7000009356/

If the reports are accurate, Google will keep most of the patents or will cross licence them.

From the article here:

The acquisition, worth at least $2 billion, will include more than 10,000 mobile communications patents currently held by the United States company, according to a person familiar with the matter.

I'm sorry - but you lose $9.5 BILLION (not counting the losses Moto incurred while a Google company) for roughly 14,500 patents???

This acquisition was finalized in 2012.....that's not even 2 years ago. I'm sorry, but I don't understand the positive spin here.
 
Perhaps because of that:


[/COLOR]And it is official, $2.91 billion and Google will retain the vast majority of patents.

http://googleblog.blogspot.com.es/2014/01/lenovo-to-acquire-motorola-mobility.html

They will, but it's pretty obvious that the investment was a loss maker for them. They tried to use the patents as ammunition against both Apple and Microsoft, but it largely hasn't panned out.

That said, now the deal with Samsung makes a lot more sense. It seems that Google is content to play the same role Microsoft did with Windows, and let Samsung, et. al. worry about making hardware.
 
What's wrong with Google? Are they just giving up on Android phones now? First, there was a rumor Google might kill Nexus phones now Motorola. Eventually Google will hand everything off to Samsung. Bad times for Android fans.
 
Losing money

If they weren't into losing money hand over fist, they wouldn't be in the Android business :p And.. the stock is UP???

Apple just posted fourth highest profit for any company in the history of ever. The stock goes down???

This just goes to prove that our country is DOOMED. Wall Street and government are filled with idiots.
 
What's wrong with Google? Are they just giving up on Android phones now? First, there was a rumor Google might kill Nexus phones now Motorola. Eventually Google will hand everything off to Samsung. Bad times for Android fans.

I'd say it's the opposite. Android is becoming a more focused platform with less bloatware. The folk who make the biggest selling devices for the platform have just agreed to stop pushing their bloatware and stick with Googles vision.

You can say bad times though when Samsung finish their own OS and stop using Android. They're just a maps app away from being able to do that according to these reports.
 
Might have as much to do with keeping the other handset makers happy, and don't forget that Google just got even tighter with Samsung. Being a handset maker has been very awkward from the beginning given the rotation system for Nexus phones. They bought Moto primarily for patents.

As a Moto X owner, I do hope that the lineage continues. This is THE Android phone for people who like the iPhone size, want a bigger screen, a lower price point, and/or the flexibility of Android. I still like iPad/iOS better for the tablet form factor, but a modern Android device like Moto X has passed the iPhone in my book (and my wife has a 5s for comparison sake).

I always thought the Motorola acquisition was an attempt to keep Samsung from hijacking Android and possibly forking it

I guess that cross-licensing agreement achieved the same goal
 
Massive acquisitions rarely work out for the buyer and yet this is what tons of uninformed people on this site want Apple to do with its spare money it isn't using rather than give it back to the stockholders via an enlarged dividend or buyback.

Good for Apple that they are not in the habit of doing this; by their own statement, they buy smaller companies, from time to time…..
 
You can say bad times though when Samsung finish their own OS and stop using Android. They're just a maps app away from being able to do that according to these reports.

Highly doubtful that Samsung ditches Android for Tizen. I predict the same success than Bada
 
I wonder how long they plan to keep Nest? What a way to destroy American companies. Google really is evil.
I guess $299 no contract Moto phones were fire sale.
 
funny if you open the motorola page it advertises the moto x for the only smartphone to be assembled in the united states. i wonder if that will stay the same.
 
I'd say it's the opposite. Android is becoming a more focused platform with less bloatware. The folk who make the biggest selling devices for the platform have just agreed to stop pushing their bloatware and stick with Googles vision.

You can say bad times though when Samsung finish their own OS and stop using Android. They're just a maps app away from being able to do that according to these reports.

I thought they had to put Tizen on the back burner because of this new deal with Google.....

I mean Samsung already controls Android market share and the only major competitor is Apple/iOS.

Either Samsung really needs to reign it in and fix (re get rid of) TouchWiz, or we need some new players to step it up. Unfortunately the best (HTC, Moto) can't seem to gain a foothold.
 
Massive acquisitions rarely work out for the buyer and yet this is what tons of uninformed people on this site want Apple to do with its spare money it isn't using rather than give it back to the stockholders via an enlarged dividend or buyback.

Thinkpads worked very well for Lenovo.
 
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