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I come from a Samsung Galaxy Note 8 and used the S6 in the past, but the one single thing I want from Android is better battery life management! iOS is still 100% after 8 hours overnight. Android 8 and previous version drops down 1% every hour or so... sometimes more. That's all I want!
 
Funny thing is with regards to adaptive brightness I noticed Samsung started doing something similar this this year on its Oreo build it may have been earlier but never noticed the setting before where it learns your adjustments to auto and applies in future scenarios.

As others have mentioned most launchers have had gesture controls for years but not baked in so was only any good on homescreen.

Thing is even if the software buttons vanish apps like pie controls will still offer this functionality for those that want it.

I'm not a iPhone user but played with my mates iPhone X and have to say the gesture controls are top notch and become pretty natural to interface with

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In terms of “Copying”, I don’t think Android copies Apple or vice versa, I think they are both vastly different in their own ways in terms of software. That gives the consumer an option of what they want in different platforms. Its usually hardware that others blame Samsung copying Apple for.

Not entirely correct. Look at Android. They added fingerprint support only after Apple made it popular and same thing with notch and gestures... of course Apple also copied some minor things but not things that decide the future like mentioned above.
 
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My biggest issue whenever I'm using Android is how inconsistent it all feels. Sure, vanilla Android looks good and one could argue that it doesn't really look any inferior to iOS at all at this point. Rumours has it that when using Google Pixel phones the UI acceleration is on-par, if not better than iOS so its all smooth and dandy.

But whenever I use Android its never vanilla Android. It's most commonly Samsung with their TouchWiz / Grace / Samsung Experience UI and even though it has improved over the years its just not all that great compared to vanilla Android and iOS and even with theme's you get this inconsistent theme's as third-party themes has various elements they can't change making it all looks horrible if you ask me.

All those handy, dandy features? No guarantee you will ever see them on phone's not running vanilla Android. Updates? Forget about it. It's a mess... Android would have been in a much better state if Google would just enforce vanilla Android on all handsets. Sure, let the manufactures keep offering their own bloated, never getting updates solutions but require the option to always have vanilla Android as a option.

Third-party apps is the same inconsistent mess. There is no enforcement's whats so ever so the UX-design, the navigation and behaviour in third-party apps is all over the place. There is no enforcement's requiring developers to adopt new API's from newer versions of Androids so you will mostly see all these new and fancy capabilities added to Android, but no third-party apps starting to make use of them for years...

Apple has also become more sloppy with their enforcement's, but its still leaps beyond what Google is doing with Android and it makes the whole experience a mess. I have yet to see any third-party app work better on Android compared to iOS unless it something that is simply not allowed on the Apple AppStore to begin with. Even huge apps like Snapchat keeps taking far worse pictures and navigate slower on top-of-the-line, brand new Android devices. Same goes for popular apps like Facebook Messenger. How is this even a thing in 2018?
 
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Did you not see the video?

I Did. And if you read this far into the thread, then clearly you would know that I have commented numerous times the differences between android and Apple. But but I also made the same argument, why does it matter if Samsung copies Apple or vice versa, can it really be proven altogether? Or does is create competition give the options to the consumer on what they want. But it doesn’t change in terms of what somebody might prefer in terms of iOS or android. Not sure why you’re asking a rhetorical question.
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Not entirely correct. Look at Android. They added fingerprint support only after Apple made it popular.

Apple never made the fingerprint sensor “Popular”. They made it _functional_ and other manufacturers saw the technology security behind that biometric measure, really not all that in different for another manufacture to release something similar to another competitor. One could make the same argument about auto manufacturers or home appliances sharing the same Features.

Apple also copied some minor things but not things that decide the future like mentioned above.

But there’s no validity behind who copies who. And I mentioned before in this thread, why does it matter? Does it really make that much of a difference if Apple copies Samsung or Samsung copies Apple? The consumer is going to choose their preference in terms of what platform of software they want, either iOS or android.
 
Not entirely correct. Look at Android. They added fingerprint support only after Apple made it popular and same thing with notch and gestures... of course Apple also copied some minor things but not things that decide the future like mentioned above.

https://www.androidcentral.com/nexu...int-sensor-if-not-apples-acquisition-supplier

The secret behind that is that it was supposed to be fingerprint recognition, and Apple bought the best supplier. So the second best supplier was the only one available to everyone else in the industry and they weren't there yet.
an in-depth look into the Nexus 6 firmware files revealed that support for the sensor was removed at the last minute

This is how things look when put into perspective.
Motorola worked AuthenTec years before they were bought by Apple.
So Android was going to add support for fingerprint sensors anyway.

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All those handy, dandy features? No guarantee you will ever see them on phone's not running vanilla Android. Updates?
Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S, Sony Xperia XZ2, Oppo R15 Pro, and Vivo X21/UD have support for Android P beta.
Also there no guarantee you won't find these features on phones running non vanilla Android.

With iphones it's the same. In order to get certain features you have to buy a new phone or a certain phone.
Take the 6S Plus. It's not like it will even get gesture controls, portrait mode on the front and back cameras with 1 camera(like on android phones), face unlock, media HDR support and so on.
So I don't understand this huge concern some of you have for what features Android users get and how they get them.
 
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Second-best (at best) copy. Probably won't even be available on 95% of the android population of phones for a decade.
I already have this on my Xiaomi, I mean officially no hack installed, and with Android 8....
Great. Another thing to note when having a debate with an android fanboy about who copies who.
I never understood this, does it make you a better person for being right that Apple got copied...or vice versa?

I mean I could care less about who copies who, as a customer I buy what works for me, no matter who made it or who invented it, I leave patent where they belong, in court, and enjoy my device.
I never argue about who invented what as it does not add anything to my user experience.

P.S. in my experience It is the Apple user who accuses others of copying and not the other way around, kinda a protective attitude at Apple, in reality, they all copy each other, there are plenty of things Apple copied from other companies during the years, but again, who cares? do you enjoy your Apple device? then enjoy it!
 
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The majority of users are on Nougat and Marshmallow actually, 56.8% to be exact so in 3 years the majority of people will be on Oreo and P. Saying it will take a decade doesn't make sense.
Oreo and P. P won’t be commonplace for another year or so after that. Plus, you have to consider these gestures only applies to handsets following Google UI, which is basically Pixel and Android One phones only. Most OEMs will still use their own styling, and with majority of Chinese OEMs are still using capacitive buttons, it will take even longer for a normal person to naturally use those gestures on Android. So I stand in my original statement.

It is a purely copycat behavior as Android has no need for these changes since Android has gone with on screen buttons way before Apple ditched the home button.
 
With iphones it's the same. In order to get certain features you have to buy a new phone or a certain phone.
Take the 6S Plus. It's not like it will even get gesture controls, portrait mode on the front and back cameras with 1 camera(like on android phones), face unlock, media HDR support and so on.
So I don't understand this huge concern some of you have for what features Android users get and how they get them.

It's not entirely comparable. As you have no guarantee to see these new features on even a brand new Android phone. In my country its like 90% of all Android phones you'll ever see is from Samsung. Google doesn't even officially sell the Pixel phones here so you have to get it imported yourself, or purchase them from a store that has imported them and are selling them at some rather stupid prices.

The Samsung Galaxy S9 and S9 Plus just got released, how long until you will see Android P on those? How many of the features will Samsung scrap in order to promote their own "similar" features etc..?

When your purchase the latest and greatest iPhone you are 99% certain you will have 99% of all the features for the foresable future. Of course they might release new phones (happening mostly once every year) that might have some exclusive features due to new hardware etc.. But even then you are guaranteed all the features when purchasing the latest and greatest at the time. With Android you are simply not, unless you purchase the Google Pixel / vanilla Android phone.

Samsung is horrible even within their own line-up of phones. There is no sensible reason why the software version and features on the Samsung Galaxy S9 and S9 Plus could not be made available on the Galaxy S8 and S8 Plus, or the S7 and S7 Edge or even the S6 and S6 Edge. But each and every year, and each and every time they release new phones they introduce artificial differentiation between the models for no apparent reason. When the Galaxy Note 8 got released, it featured a newer version of "Samsung Experience" and a newer version of Android compared to the Galaxy S8 and S8 Plus released just a few months earlier and the hardware was 99% the same other than the screen size and the addition of the S-Pen... Its just ridiculous. And this is comparing within Samsung's own line-up of phones and their own "Samsung Experience" software. Its even worse when you started comparing it all to vanilla Android.

You don't have anything remotely similar with iOS. It's not really comparable at all. If I purchase the latest and greatest Android phone, which arguably is the Samsung Galaxy S9 Plus today I'm not going to get all these Android P features for the foresable future. If you purchase the latest and greatest iPhone, the iPhone X you will get everything.
 
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I just want to see the new UI and when you need to change the sound, there is no such big logo coming up and filling most of the screen. Do like YouTube, etc.
 
Oreo and P. P won’t be commonplace for another year or so after that. Most OEMs will still use their own styling, and with majority of Chinese OEMs are still using capacitive buttons, it will take even longer for a normal person to naturally use those gestures on Android. So I stand in my original statement.

So from more than 10 years you are suddenly down at 4, with a little more knowledge about Android you will probably get down to 3 years or less like I said at first.

Plus, you have to consider these gestures only applies to handsets following Google UI, which is basically Pixel and Android One phones only.

There are system navigation gestures, they are not only applicable to Google's UI(which in your mind most likely it's the home launcher).

It is a purely copycat behavior as Android has no need for these changes since Android has gone with on screen buttons way before Apple ditched the home button.


Various Android phones already have gesture based navigation controls and gestures were always a big part of Android.
Google simply implemented some additional navigation gestures into Android P. I don't understand how does that make them copy cats and if that's the logic Apple are copy cats as well.
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I'm not sure why people care about who's copying who. Gestures like the one on iOS and this new iteration or android have been available in third-party launchers years. Who really cares because intuitive design should be used for the betterment of all UI.
 
It's not entirely comparable. As you have no guarantee to see these new features on even a brand new Android phone. In my country its like 90% of all Android phones you'll ever see is from Samsung.

LoL You still have no guarantee you won't see these new features on even a brand new Android phone.
I can buy right now android phones that offer gesture based navigation options.
It goes both ways.

Also places where Samsung has 90% of the Android market share are exceptions so i don;t see how thtat's relevant. Also I highly doubt Samsung will skip on new Android features so it's a moot point anyway.
 
I'm not sure why people care about who's copying who. Gestures like the one on iOS and this new iteration or android have been available in third-party launchers years. Who really cares because intuitive design should be used for the betterment of all UI.
Hell Yes!Let's all benefit! The trouble is Apple fanboys can't accept a thing that ripes them off.
 
I can imagine having a ton of fun screwing up friends phones, "Hey Google, set wind down for 1pm". They'll be wondering why the heck their phone is in greyscale all day. Ha!
Hey Google only works with the account owners voice, so good luck with that.
 
Google: "Challenge accepted."
You do know that Apple already share your data with "Carefully selected partners" ? The biggest difference between Apple and Google is that Apple doesn't disclose who those partners are whereas with Google you can view those companies and choose not to share data if you wish. With Apple you do not have that choice. I'd rather give my data to companies I know than those I don't. But each to their own.
 
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good to see google doing this. love the gestures on my iPhone X and really could not go to a phone without these now.
 
Google will never get my health information....ever.
Google: "Challenge accepted."
You do know that Apple already share your data with "Carefully selected partners" ? The biggest difference between Apple and Google is that Apple doesn't disclose who those partners are whereas with Google you can view those companies and choose not to share data if you wish. With Apple you do not have that choice. I'd rather give my data to companies I know than those I don't, or take up my option of not sharing. But each to their own.
 
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Android is starting to look really clean nowadays. I give them that. Also this freaking annoying bar is nothing to be copied.

Everytime i see an iPhone X my OCD goes into overload with this annoying bar at the bottom. I wish this could be hidden or its transparency adjusted to basically from 0 to 100.

Give it some time. I'm sure Apple will remove the bar in one or two iOS iterations (or make it subtler), when people will have gotten used to the gesture, just like when the pedantic "slide to unlock" arrow slider was replaced by a much more understated indication.
 
You know if people are prepared to hate Google so much; why visit a Mac site that hosts all it's videos on youtube (Google owns youtube)
 
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