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GeForceNow is really good for me. I was shocked at how good the latency was. I was even able to play an online FPS (Apex) and compete just as well as I do locally. It is dependent on your internet connection and how close you are to one of their servers obviously though so your mileage may vary.
I am using gforcenow to play any game I would normally play on pc. Playing battlefield 3,4,1,5. As a casual gamer I do not notice any difference compared to playing it on a windows pc.
 
Yes. 5 million. That’s a huge number of households in the market. Directv and Dish have 14 each. Charter has 15 million tv subs. Comcast has 18 million.

5 ain’t so bad now is it? Those companies have been at it for 28, 42, 60 and 59 years. Soooo…. Your point?

I still think 5 million is pretty small on the scale that usually keeps Google's interest. Roughly ~70M households in the US still with cable TV. Google's only movement has been to add channels, increase prices, and offer over-priced 4K packages.

Can't think of what might move the needle to encourage the kind of growth they'd need to continue offering the service.
 
With Google you just don't know how long they will keep products and services alive.
 
I still think 5 million is pretty small on the scale that usually keeps Google's interest. Roughly ~70M households in the US still with cable TV. Google's only movement has been to add channels, increase prices, and offer over-priced 4K packages.

Can't think of what might move the needle to encourage the kind of growth they'd need to continue offering the service.

Compare in market pricing and the streaming options are usually a lot less still, especially when extra fees and device rental fees, etc, get mixed in there with normal cable/sat

5 million is growth from the 3 ... and everyone in this industry knows this is the direction it's all going to go

The trajectory matters and YTTV is doing phenomenally

Even the oldest people in my family are now on some form of streaming cable (DTV Stream, YTTV and Fubo all in use across our extended family). The flexibility to use it across multiple device types and at multiple locations (seasonsal houses, etc) is unmatched.
 
I still think 5 million is pretty small on the scale that usually keeps Google's interest. Roughly ~70M households in the US still with cable TV. Google's only movement has been to add channels, increase prices, and offer over-priced 4K packages.

Can't think of what might move the needle to encourage the kind of growth they'd need to continue offering the service.
Offering the same tired service over the internet, in a shrinking market, leads to people being happy about 5 million subscribers.

For every person that drops cable and picks up YouTube TV, there are magnitudes more dropping cable and replacing it with nothing.

Until someone can reverse the trend of the shrinking market (by actually innovating), none of these services will be that successful. There’s a reason Sony bounced when they did.
 
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I know every company kills products off, but I can't imagine getting into the Google ecosystem in any big way because it's such a mess.
 
They had a gaming service?!?

I don’t even use them for a browser. Guess I’m out of the Google loop.
 
Yes. 5 million. That’s a huge number of households in the market. Directv and Dish have 14 each. Charter has 15 million tv subs. Comcast has 18 million.

5 ain’t so bad now is it? Those companies have been at it for 28, 42, 60 and 59 years. Soooo…. Your point?
I don't think any of those have been around for 60 years lol. TV was all OTA until what, the late 70's? And it wasn't until the 80's when cable started taking off.
 
Apple Arcade is one of the numerous examples of Apple not knowing a single thing about services.

Imagine paying a monthly subscription for mobile games lmao. That trash literally litters the App Store for free.

Apple could have made an Apple TV Pro or Apple TV Play with gaming capabilities and a controller and support for big AAA games, but instead they made a dead-on-arrival trash service.

Look at the M-series chips…if they slapped a powerful one of those tweaked for gaming in an Apple TV Play they could have things like COD and other big AAA games. But at the end of the day unless you make your own AAA games there’s no reason to get into that anyway.
That is easy to say, but doesn't mean any big AAA games would want to come to the platform. There are few to no AAA games for the Mac, so why would you think they would come to an Apple TV like device?
 
Apple Arcade is one of the numerous examples of Apple not knowing a single thing about services.

Imagine paying a monthly subscription for mobile games lmao. That trash literally litters the App Store for free.

Apple could have made an Apple TV Pro or Apple TV Play with gaming capabilities and a controller and support for big AAA games, but instead they made a dead-on-arrival trash service.

Look at the M-series chips…if they slapped a powerful one of those tweaked for gaming in an Apple TV Play they could have things like COD and other big AAA games. But at the end of the day unless you make your own AAA games there’s no reason to get into that anyway.

Maybe you (and me as well) are just not the target audience. Apple makes more profits with games than than MS and Sony combined so Apple knows what they’re doing with games. It seems that they’ve decided that heavily perusing AAA games is just not profitable enough for them. I doubt Apple will ever go after the same audience as PC gaming given how entrenched the other platforms are already. That said, it seems like more older PC games are making their way to iOS as Apple’s chips are getting more powerful over the past few years.
 
Good idea. Terrible execution. Gaming doesn't belong in a walled garden but that still seems to be the way it's going.
 
I don't think any of those have been around for 60 years lol. TV was all OTA until what, the late 70's? And it wasn't until the 80's when cable started taking off.

Cable tv started in 1948. Comcast opened in 1963 as American Cable Systems in Mississippi. Charter, purchased Time Warner Cable…. TWC began its life as Television Communications Corp in 1962, a time which they were one of 800 cable systems with just shy of 1 million paying customers across all systems.
 
Sundar Pichai needs to go asap. He's damaging Google reputation beyond repair! How can anyone ever trust a new Google product launch again? Stadia had the best technical implementation of all, imagine how sad the engineers behind this are while being hostage of this awful incompetent management?
 
They need more than a platform to get rich. Google makes most of its success off free products. They stink when it comes to giving reasons to charge for things. Like if my motivation for getting youtube premium is to get rid of all the stinking ads they keep adding to videos then that product really stinks. So if they want to be in the gaming space they need to create a game, and a darn fun one people want to invest time in. Then you build your infrastructure around that game and give people more of that but at a premium price. And then you add hardware to go along with it and so on over many years of building up a community of loyal customers. They took the easy way and wasted money and peoples time. Without a great product all you have is hype and vapor.
 
Why is Apple not sued for cockblocking Xcloud on iOS? Everybody knows Apple is only doing it to protect Apple Arcade. It’s clear abuse of power.

It would be great for consumers if we could play Xbox games on iOS but it’s bad for Apple their $$$$$.
You can do it through Safari. An app is unnecessary.
 
Yes. Great job, Google. Competing against entrenched names, without any ability to offer double or triple play packages, or more recently quadruple play packages. Phenomenal, really.
Yup, entering a market and offering nothing new or innovative leads to nothing more than a small dent in a continuously shrinking industry.

Google thought they could convert cord cutters into YTTV customers, but people don’t cancel cable and replace it with YTTV. They just cancel cable.

People are smart enough to see YTTV for what it is. Cable over ethernet, and people are tired of cable.
 
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As a casual stadia player, I must admit, out of all the cloud services I have tried (Onlive, PS Now, Xbox Cloud, GFN, and Stadia), Stadia had the lowest latency, best feel to it. I hope the tech goes towards a competitor. At the end of the day, nothing compares to my PS5.
Interesting. When I tested Stadia about two years ago I remember I thought the video stream quality was much worse (compressed) compared to that of GeForce Now, which had options to fine-tune this. Latency was also clearly better on the latter for me.
 
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