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I just hope that now that they have this huge producer of phones they decrease the phone line they have and do Apple-ish moves, that could make Android a more useful platform than what it is now.
 
Find me, ANYWHERE, people that are obsessed and evangelical about any product as they are with apple.

I've ONLY seen this kind of extreme psychotic and delusional obsessed brand loyalty within Apple evangelicals.

go to droidforums and make a post that says "Apple is the best" and then report back. What a joke...you're now suggesting that fanboys only exist on apple sites? Really?
 
Really? Take a look at the URL at the top of your browser window. :rolleyes:

Do people gripe incessantly about "evangelism" on Android and Microsoft-related forums? I don't know because I don't visit those sites, but I'm guessing no.

Most of us already use Apple stuff. Which probably means
we like it. So what would be the point of evangelism here?
 
In 1969, Neil Armstrong spoke the famous words "one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind" from the Moon on a Motorola Radio.

Today, it has become one giant leap for Android.
...

I'm curious how things play out too. Here's another quote:

John C Dvorak (March 2007):

This is not an emerging business.
In fact it’s gone so far that it’s in the process of consolidation with probably two players dominating everything, Nokia Corp. and Motorola Inc.

...
on Apple:

... And its survival in the computer business relies on good margins.
Those margins cannot exist in the mobile handset business for more than 15 minutes.

:eek:

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I seriously doubt Macrumors would post this as a news item, but wow, that is looking very bad for Apple :

apples-flawed-evidence-5206920.jpg

Wow!

Just WOW. That could very well end up being quite expensive for Apple. The EU is way to lax in general, but when they strike they usually strike hard.
 
Google to Apple: Check

More nonsense.

There are two ways to look at this acquisition:

1) Google just paid $12 billion for a portfolio of mobile phone patents that may - or may not - be of some value in the ongoing legal wrangling. But its also worth noting that Motorola didn't, on their own, feel that these patents were particularly valuable, and certainly not worth staking the company on.

or

2) That Google bought Motorola Mobility so it would have a hardware channel to showcase its Android mobile operating system. Which is fraught with problems, beyond the inevitable unease it is going to cause for Android's other partners.

Keep one thing in mind: Executing a hardware strategy in mobile phones is hard. Nokia and RIM did it pretty well for a decade or so, but then lost their way. Microsoft never did it. Samsung and HTC are currently building marketshare - but are making virtually no profit at it. Google tried it a couple of years ago - and failed spectacularly.

How is Google supposed to "win" though this acquisition? By giving Motorola phones and tablets the "latest and greatest" Android version? Thats going to go down pretty badly with Samsung and HTC. Or by designing, building, and selling hardware better than the other guys? Which they've never shown any capability of doing?

If there is ANY one clear winner from this acquisition it is, of all companies, Microsoft. Because Google has just handed all the Android-partners out there the best reason in the world to take another look at Windows Phone 8 when it appears next year.
 
So when Apple copies many features that existed in Android and other OSes for their iOS5, that is "revolutionary" and "magical." When Android copies iOS, Google gets sued for it? Apple rips off others just the same just like Microsoft copied Apple.

What features were "copied" that weren't requested from pretty much the get go by it's users? I can't think of any, but I may be mistaken. I don't think that being first to implement some pretty obvious improvements in something is the same as creating a new-style interface for communications - then having someone copy it wholesale.

It's like if I invented the wheel, and the people I sold the wheel to complained it made for a kind of bumpy ride. While I was developing the vibration reducing material for the outside, someone else copied my idea, knew that there was a vibration issue, and started selling wheels and came out with tire before me - then accused me of copying them after I finished producing tires on my wheels.

I think we are dealing with apples(ha!) and oranges here.
 
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go to droidforums and make a post that says "Apple is the best" and then report back. What a joke...you're now suggesting that fanboys only exist on apple sites? Really?

Nobody is on the level of apple evangelicals. You will not see people camping out in front of stores for days just to buy an Android handset.
 
Competition is always good for end customers. :D

Can't wait to see what Google and Motorola come up with!
 
Find me, ANYWHERE, people that are obsessed and evangelical about any product as they are with apple.

I've ONLY seen this kind of extreme psychotic and delusional obsessed brand loyalty within Apple evangelicals.

androidforums.com

androidandme.com

phandroid.com

Now, of course, you'll qualify the hell out of anything on those sites, but it's as extreme and evangelical as it is here. And I think that's fine, actually. People like what they like, and they're entitled to like it.

I'll tell what is unique to Apple though: obsessives who hate it so much they can't imagine why anyone would ever want to buy an Apple product or praise it. They're even weird enough to refer to people who own Apple products as "evangelicals". Now THAT's some extreme psychotic and delusional brand obsession. ;)
 
Andy Rubin sentence construction 101: a noun, a verb, and "open source."

Does this guy know any other words? :rolleyes:


Nobody is on the level of apple evangelicals. You will not see people camping out in front of stores for days just to buy an Android handset.

Maybe you're right or maybe it's just because there's nothing on the Android platform worth camping overnight for.
 
Nobody is on the level of apple evangelicals. You will not see people camping out in front of stores for days just to buy an Android handset.

You're right, they're all on the internet on Apple-centric sites saying things like "evangelicals" instead :rolleyes:

It's comical that you're shocked that fanboys exist...but ok.
 
Google to Apple: Check

and if these news are anything to go by
"Apple Offers Flawed Evidence in Lawsuit against Samsung"
http://www.pcworld.com/article/238047/apple_offers_flawed_evidence_in_lawsuit_against_samsung.html

I'd be calling it a checkmate


Please, This is a Made up Story to get Clicks from no other then PC World.

Did you Read this part that says it all.

"Müller argues the picture in the German complaint could be of a prerelease prototype, which showed up during discovery procedures in Apple's case against Samsung in the U.S. last April."

Note that this preliminary injunction is all about a design-related intellectual property right, not about hardware or software patents.

http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/08/preliminary-injunction-granted-by.html

And with some very Simple checking with the Models that had been submitted, This is indeed the case.

So as for your Checkmate,

Just escaped Checkmate By Counter-Attack (look it up- it Exists)

Move On.
 
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If you expect that, then you're either extremely naive or a newbie to the internet. I'm not asserting that the cheerleader mentality is the right one, or thats how it should be, but this is the internet, bro. It hasn't changed in the last 10 years.

That's the problem, I'm a veteran of close to 15 years on the Internet, and before that, 5 years messing around the various BBSs. ;)

The subjectivity and bias is only getting worse. It used to be you could discuss things rationally for days online (either on BBSs through Fidonet or on the Internet) without ever getting into the land of pure bias tainted subjectivity.

I don't get this whole "I must be a cheerleader for XX at all costs!" mentality. Never will. I know it's there, I know people see this forum as a "apple fan site", but frankly, it isn't and many don't see it that way. Some posters would do well to "tone it down" a notch and realise that it doesn't make them part of a crowd to constantly post the same tired pro-apple nonsense all the time.

BTW, I'm not your "bro".
 
Nobody is on the level of apple evangelicals. You will not see people camping out in front of stores for days just to buy an Android handset.
Try not to think of it in terms of evangelicals and fanboyism. I try to look at it like 'high brow Jerry Springer'.
 
That's the problem, I'm a veteran of close to 15 years on the Internet, and before that, 5 years messing around the various BBSs. ;)

The subjectivity and bias is only getting worse. It used to be you could discuss things rationally for days online (either on BBSs through Fidonet or on the Internet) without ever getting into the land of pure bias tainted subjectivity.

So I'll ask again (since pointless questions seem to be ok): Are you shocked that there are fanboys on this forum? If not, are you just trolling too?

KnightWRX said:
BTW, I'm not your "bro".

You can't have possibly thought I thought you were...right?
 
Hopefully, people will take stock of the official word from OEM's. Here they are again for those that won't click OllyW's link:

“We welcome the news of today’s acquisition, which demonstrates that Google is deeply committed to defending Android, its partners, and the entire ecosystem” Peter Chou, CEO, HTC

“I welcome Google’s commitment to defending Android and its partners” Bert Nordberg, President & CEO, Sony Ericsson

“We welcome Google’s commitment to defending Android and its partners” Jong-Seok Park, Ph.D, President & CEO, LG

“We welcome today’s news, which demonstrates Google’s deep commitment to defending Android, its partners, and the ecosystem” J.K. Shin, President, Samsung, Mobile Communications Division

Aha ha ha .... Four CEO (puppets) say nearly the same thing 'word for word', lol, what a joke.
 
If there is ANY one clear winner from this acquisition it is, of all companies, Microsoft. Because Google has just handed all the Android-partners out there the best reason in the world to take another look at Windows Phone 8 when it appears next year.

Maybe, but even if companies look at MS/Nokia, they'll realize neither company has anything competitive to offer--and with the track record MS has in mobile, there is simply no reason to believe it will magically come up with anything new.
 
Nobody is on the level of apple evangelicals. You will not see people camping out in front of stores for days just to buy an Android handset.

This is true, but on the surface I cannot fault the "team" mentality of people who post on this forum. I mean if I was in a room full of Lakers Fans, I would cheer alot of things the Lakers do. BUT me personally, I would hope I could talk to other Lakers fans about how bad certain things are, and what needs to improve.

Apple fans, in general, lack that ablity to talk amungst other fans in an objective matter.
 
Wow!

Just WOW. That could very well end up being quite expensive for Apple. The EU is way to lax in general, but when they strike they usually strike hard.

As i said Before:

"Müller argues the picture in the German complaint could be of a prerelease prototype, which showed up during discovery procedures in Apple's case against Samsung in the U.S. last April."

And with some very Simple checking with the Models that had been submitted, This is indeed the case.

And look at the Merits of he case before posting this obvious dribble.

They got it on Merits of the Design, Not Software - Look it up.


OHIM – OFFICE FOR HARMONIZATION IN THE INTERNAL MARKET
TRADE MARKS AND DESIGNS
OHMI – OFFICE DE L’HARMONISATION DANS LE MARCHÉ INTÉRIEUR
MARQUES, DESSINS ET MODÈLES


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OHIM – OFFICE FOR HARMONIZATION IN THE INTERNAL MARKET
TRADE MARKS AND DESIGNS
OHMI – OFFICE DE L’HARMONISATION DANS LE MARCHÉ INTÉRIEUR
MARQUES, DESSINS ET MODÈLES

Note that this preliminary injunction is all about a design-related intellectual property right, not about hardware or software patents.

http://thenextweb.com/apple/2011/08/09/apple-gets-samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-distribution-blocked-in-european-union/

http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/08/preliminary-injunction-granted-by.html
 
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This is true, but on the surface I cannot fault the "team" mentality of people who post on this forum. I mean if I was in a room full of Lakers Fans, I would cheer alot of things the Lakers do. BUT me personally, I would hope I could talk to other Lakers fans about how bad certain things are, and what needs to improve.

Apple fans, in general, lack that ablity to talk amungst other fans in an objective matter.

Why is this? Why can't many be objective? It isn't normal.
 
I really don't follow the Motorola cell phones...but had a Razr back in the day.

I think Apple's now in for an even bigger battle as Motorola now has big big bucks filling it's pockets to fuel more and better Androids.
From day one it has always been ONE iphone per year while Moto has put out many different phones a year.On top of that you have the other Android OEMS pumping out their own darn phones all on the Android platform. That Android biz is pretty saturated.
 
Find me, ANYWHERE, people that are obsessed and evangelical about any product as they are with apple.

I've ONLY seen this kind of extreme psychotic and delusional obsessed brand loyalty within Apple evangelicals.

Really??? They're all over...One example would be a gaming website (game trailers) go into the forums and your mind will blown away. Im actually inclined into believing that your just acting dumb for the sake of defending your statements. I mean no disrespect but I'm just saying that its really hard to believe that you don't see this sort of behavior (fanboy-ism) everywhere else.
 
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