I wonder why Google isn't using a real UNIX variant like Ubuntu Linux 10.04 (Lucid Lynx) for their development machines or for the computers at Google headquarters.
OS X is unix compliant though.
I wonder why Google isn't using a real UNIX variant like Ubuntu Linux 10.04 (Lucid Lynx) for their development machines or for the computers at Google headquarters.
I don't believe their remarks about Apple were really combative. Competitive, sure, but they seemed good-natured enough. The critical comments were simply from a fundamentally different point of view than Apple's (i.e. closed systems versus open source). I don't think they've ever stated that Apple made terrible products or software.
- Google is battling Apple at just about every aspect of their market - phones, Ads, Flash preferrence, etc... just short of computers.
- Made combative remarks against the company the once had an intellectual investment in.
- Now they want to change their enterprise PC systems to Mac?
What gives?![]()
Are you actually betting, as in real money? Because I would take you up on that and bet the opposite by a wide margin. According to the Google employees I know, there is widespread Mac love at the company.
Wow, really? Can you provide a link, please? (don't get me wrong, honest curiosity)![]()
I (i.e. closed systems versus open source).
Well, yes and no. Yes, IE6 was the point of penetration... but no, "Windows itself" ain't that robust: Seriously, read all that very carefully before firing back with a reactive response. (the OS is practically entirely dependent on the web interface for its security, as —internally —its underbelly is structurally relatively flimsy).
The key to understanding Windows rootkits is understanding that Windows rootkits don't have to 'get root'.
Unix systems have several ways to achieve this, such as su ('substitute user') and the even more effective sudo ('substitute user and do'). Users need not log in to Unix systems with the root account but can temporarily escalate to root status provided they are able to supply the proper credentials.
This reduces the risk of being the victim of a 'piggyback attack' - malware rides on the login account to do its dirty work.
Windows doesn't have a good way to do this. Windows doesn't have a secure way to do this. Windows doesn't have a viable counterpart at all.
I know all to well about being stuck with IE6.We're still stuck with proprietary IE6 software, however
I wonder why Google isn't using a real UNIX variant like Ubuntu Linux 10.04 (Lucid Lynx) for their development machines or for the computers at Google headquarters.
Mac OS X is as much "real UNIX" as Ubuntu Linux is.
Linux is linux and Unix is Unix. You can't call it Linux if it has Unix core and vice versa can you?
Right. You can use a distribution which has support for SELinux, and which has still a pretty nice GUI like the current Ubuntu version 10.04. And if you want a secure web environment on your Mac, you can install Ubuntu in a VM inside Virtual Box, VMware Fusion or Parallels.I see this as a mostly PR move too -- mostly due to timing. With Apple getting larger in capitalization then MS last week, Google saw blood and released this press announcement.
Also, if they want real security, there is Linux that you can tie down hard. Hell you can make a PC a web browser only machine if you feel that much need for security. Try that on a Mac or PC!
I don't believe their remarks about Apple were really combative. Competitive, sure, but they seemed good-natured enough. The critical comments were simply from a fundamentally different point of view than Apple's (i.e. closed systems versus open source). I don't think they've ever stated that Apple made terrible products or software.
Besides all that, isn't it just possible that they made this move because it was — objectively speaking — the smart thing to do, and not for any political ******** reasons?
Why the hell are they using internet explorer? I thought google was a (somewhat) smart company. They could have just used Firefox and saved money for replacing all their computers![]()
The better question is, why aren't they using Chrome?
... Seriously, who is turning up to any sort of conference or meeting with presentations an anything other than PP.
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Given the type of people that work at Google, I am betting that most of them would choose linux over OS X.
GL
Google is a very large and very successful firm. If they can ditch Windows, WHAT EXCUSE DOES YOUR COMPANY HAVE NOT TO DO THE SAME THING?
Bad PR indeed.
Yeah, MBPs, Mac-minis, and iMacs. Not sure if they would really use the horsepower of the MacPros.... Is anything Google makes multi-core aware?![]()
Google is a very large and very successful firm. If they can ditch Windows, WHAT EXCUSE DOES YOUR COMPANY HAVE NOT TO DO THE SAME THING?
Bad PR indeed.
No.
Google has about 10,000 employees. The fact they're switching to a (largely) Linux/OS X combination is statistically insignificant, plus those systems are probably being monitored by a pretty good IT team.
OS X becomes a target when a billion consumers are users.
Crackers are interested in the low-hanging fruit.
I wonder why Google isn't using a real UNIX variant like Ubuntu Linux 10.04 (Lucid Lynx) for their development machines or for the computers at Google headquarters.
Kinda interesting to me considering Apple and Google haven't been getting along well. Glad to see a mass purchase of Macs by the Google giant.