I'd like to get excited about television, but you're still sitting there watching stuff from your couch. So passive. And time consuming. I have things to do. Like not get fat. Take it all away and give a few sports channels and the networks for like ten bucks a month. I'd take that over all of this over featured over priced crap they're selling you on when you'd be much happier with less garbage and a few low priced options. Television has railroaded us into paying more for crap nobody but a couch sloth uses for decades.
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It all depends how big your TV is and how far you sit from it. I have a PC hooked to each HD TV. No problem viewing the net. Of course my TV's are 61 inch or better. I load up fire fox, manipulate the browswer with my in the air Gyration mouse and load up my Netflix shortcut. No problem. Convergence is the future. Happened with phone/music/camera, it will happen with TV. Load up VLC an remote control it with my iPad or iPhone and watch ripped movies.
I rather have a plugin module with a universal interface good across multiple brands of TVs where you can select whether you want Apple TV, Google or whatever. You just purchase the module you want, snap in to your TV and get added functionality. No need for a separate box and running wires. No need to buy a Blueray or TV locked into one vendor.
PFFFFT you do realise they (Logitech) built Apple mighty mouse for years right?
P.s. who makes the current ones (magic mouse)?Yeah I'd like to get excited about forums, but you're still sitting there looking at your screen and typing stuff from chair or couch. So passive. And time consuming. I have things to do. Like not get fat. Take it all away and give a few sports channels on the internet for like ten bucks a month. I'd take over all of this over yada yada yada.
That would be nice but it will still require purchase of a new TV that supports that feature.
Cox charges per STB, extra for HD (you can't get HD cable channels without their STB), extra for DVR functionality (just for the privilege), and extra for each DVR STB (which still come with an absolutely pathetic 40GB HDD).
Without the Cox STB, you'll get 70 (+/-) standard def channels via "enhanced" cable and a rebroadcast of your four or five free OTA HD signals (on weird channel number assignments that mysteriously change every so often, like two hours before the superbowl or final four).
You can buy a CableCARD-compatible device, but you will NEVER get it to work with the Cox topology.
Given all that, does anyone expect that Cox is going to willingly hand over the keys to their kingdom to a GoogleTV-type device? You'll get the same thing you get today with a media PC or EyeTV: 70 (+/-) standard def channels and the weird/changeable HD OTA rebroadcast signal you could get with any rabbit-ear antenna.
Be sure to let us know how that works out for you...
Wow well maybe that portion of the marketing isnt aimed to appeal to you.. rather the 80 MILLION+ users of farmville who might see this as a great bonus??
On a serious note what is it with some of you babies?
What did Google do to your families/favourite pets?
You can hear the sincere scorn in some of these comments its pretty sad.. they are such a threat to precious Apple so they have to be badmouthed at every turn.
I cant be bothered to list but there are are PLENTY of cases of both companies innovating, and copying (Macrumors ran a story on Apple verdict today for example)..
I mean, I suppose Apple was the first to bring a little set top box that enabled you to sling content from your pc to your TV?? Oh they werent? You mean they took an existing idea and tried to improve it? Like Google's doing now?
What a dweeb
Dude I only pointed out one thing. If you have to pay extra for a high def box that sucks for you. Cablevision does not make you pay extra for a high def box, just for a HD DVR. You don't pay extra for HD channels. The only thing that does not work with Cablevision if you get the cable card is pay per view and their menu. And why are you going on about keys to the kingdom? I never alluded to anything like that. Your ranting for no reason partner.
You mean like this:
Apple Hit With $625 Million Judgment in Patent Suit Over Cover Flow, Spotlight, Time Machine
Right now the only announced Google TV products are the Logitech Revue and Sony TVs. Either of which will set you back far more than $99.
By it's nature, the rich feature set of Google TV necessitates an expensive device. If you want the full computer experience on your TV, you pretty much need a real computer. And they tend to be in the $200-$300 range. Just look at TiVo boxes which have the same problem.
It's just like all the Windows based tablets that were announced at CES that have basically evaporated since the iPad came in at a significantly lower price than expected.
I have no doubt they will come, lower price Android (and Windows) based TV products and tablets based on 3.0 but Apple will have a head start and can gain a foothold.
Apple's minimalist feature set has two benefits. A simple user experience and a lower cost. They are taking advantage of this with iPad and
TV2 to get out ahead of the market on timing and price for the first time I can remember.Today's Apple tax is a lack of features, not really a higher price, and if that feature set suits you, why not stick with the Apple product.
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I kind of get what your saying... and I think that is largely why I spend way more time these days online than watching TV. Cant get into TV series etc. Even though its hard to say its being really 'active' but I definitely feel more engaged online.
I think you are missing the point with a device like the Google TV though. An dmore so than Apple TV which is really just another passive playback device as it currently stands.
The whole point is to bring the two things that people spend most of their leisure time doing together: Surfing the net/playing with Apps etc, and watching TV.
There have been studies that show people are multitasking these days anyways i.e. tv on with laptop on the sofa. The idea is you wont have to use two devices to do that very soon.. could be interesting.
I believe Black Sheep's "The Choice is Yours" (as popularized by Kia Motors to the non-hip-hop community) would be a great song to play right now.
Go Google!
Go Google!
hmm not really sure how either Google TV or Apple Tv is better than an HTPC+ class 1 Bluetooth KB/Mouse
i have a 1 second startup time from suspend
gigabit lan capable of copying over 80MB/s across the network (my switch and all nics support 9000K jumbo frames)
2.5TB of storage upgradeable to 16TB
communicate with any other device on my network and stream from them (if the device is wifi, no problem, as long as it has an ip from the AP)
i can stream any format, play any format, download and store any format
everything web related runs fast as my HTPC has a C2D e8400@3.6GHz 4GB of ram and a nvidia 512MB Hdmi video card.
cost? $350
to my knowledge ATV needs another computer on the network to work and play videos off of (stored videos/rips)
google tv is kind of limited in functionality and you do need an android phone to have a "remote", also i dont see a way to upgrade it if new formats come out.
originally my HTPC didnt even have an optical drive, i installed Win7 from USB, then i added a DVDRW to rip discs, then i added a bluray drive.
i have a 1 second startup time from suspend
gigabit lan capable of copying over 80MB/s across the network (my switch and all nics support 9000K jumbo frames)
2.5TB of storage upgradeable to 16TB
communicate with any other device on my network and stream from them (if the device is wifi, no problem, as long as it has an ip from the AP)
i can stream any format, play any format, download and store any format
everything web related runs fast as my HTPC has a C2D e8400@3.6GHz 4GB of ram and a nvidia 512MB Hdmi video card.
cost? $350
to my knowledge ATV needs another computer on the network to work and play videos off of (stored videos/rips)
google tv is kind of limited in functionality and you do need an android phone to have a "remote", also i dont see a way to upgrade it if new formats come out.
originally my HTPC didnt even have an optical drive, i installed Win7 from USB, then i added a DVDRW to rip discs, then i added a bluray drive.
Why does Apple have an aversion to people being able to surf the internet from their living rooms..... Apple better adapt pretty quickly as Google TV looks pretty compelling and Apple TV spells GREED - Apple just wants to rent or sell you something. Why can't I check out stats on ESPN while watching an NFL game... Sony will offer that ... I bet most consumers will vote with their wallets and go for the Google offering.
Looks good, I can't wait for more info so i can decide between Google TV
& Boxee Box. Apple TV Fail IMO.
& Boxee Box. Apple TV Fail IMO.
LOL - I'll think you'll find it's the other way round. Do you think Apple WANT to limit the available streaming content for their product? It's the cable companies and studios who are blocking apple every step of the way.
The "future tech" won't become popular unless there is demand for it. AppleTV is all about building a customer base to help convince the studios.
Google TV > crApple TV
How?
Because there is currently no good solution for this. Does google TV offer a wireless keyboard and mouse? HOw do you navigate around sites, click/rollover links? I hardly think apple have an "aversion" to surfing the internet from wherever they want - have you not heard of the iPad?
Go grab the google offering, and then when apple solve the control challenges, cry when the app store comes to the apple TV.
Apple are hit with these law suits every day. Most of them from people who patent concepts, wait for someone else to develop the tech, wait even longer for them to become successful and THEN make their claim.
Where were these inventors of coverflow and time machine two years ago?
Nope, it doesn't because you can have just about any video format on your iPad and stream it to the AppleTV. Apple also offers conversion tools for you right in the OS, so just convert them already. PS - iTunes supports more than just MP4. I play AVI files from iTunes every day.
So where is all the legal content from streaming going to appear from?
If the studios won't release it to Apple, how could they release it to google without getting sued to hell for unfair practices. The only obstacle to AppleTV is the studios. When they rescind their current "Music Companies of the 1990's" attitude and release content for legal rent and purchase on line, they'll stop losing quite so much money in lost revenue to illegal downloads and torrents.
And as for those who think somehow that Apple is denying them the app store and web browsing on the AppleTV, do stop and think it through. How do people without iPhone/iPad control that - there are some pretty major hurdles to overcome - how do you browse the web without a cursor when you can't touch the screen? It's a big challenge, I'm pretty damn sure apple are working on it, and as soon as a solution is found and perfected, it'll be released.
So jailbreak to your hearts content - it's not going to achieve anything apart from maybe allowing the streaming of illegally ripped content.
Because freeview boxes stream all the free content you like - as long as it's three years old and not on a premium channel.
Nope, Apple are releasing Airplay as an open standard. It is already in the hands of many home electronics manufacturers.
This thing looks fantastic and approximately 10x better than iTV...
And it supports FULL web something SJ is censuring from us!
Great job Google!
And it supports FULL web something SJ is censuring from us!
Great job Google!
Preach it!
I keep harking on similar themes about YouTube. So much of its popularity comes from stuff that violates copyright laws. Most of what I see that's worth a damn on there is that kind of thing. I went to Hulu to see the Timberlake/Fallon thing that went viral, but how many people with DVRs do you think illegally shared that on YouTube to make it viral?
Now I'm all for finding some legal method of allowing such things, but people who produce this stuff should be compensated. Google makes a killing as an aggregator of news stories and searches for stuff that my colleagues in the news media generate. We don't get checks from Google. I'm hoping in the next couple of years we start to fight back and tell Google to share its billions, but it's going to be a hard fight.
I am wondering at what point people will realize what a monster Google is. You thought Microsoft in the 1990s was bad? Microsoft didn't have a near-monopoly on the engine that drives the bloody Internet. Microsoft also at least made products that most of us paid for. Google throws everything at people for free in order to drive them to use search. When Microsoft did similar stuff with Internet Explorer, the Justice Department went ape$#@%. Google keeps entering new fields without much of a peep. Exactly how much stuff can a behemoth give away without getting busted for anti-trust?
As far as this new service, see the above. I'm not using it with Google attached. If I wasn't so used to Google search, I'd probably completely switch. I've got my iPhone set on Bing (yes, I realize the Microsoft irony), but I'm still on Google on my desktop. I'm willing to wait on Apple to make something better instead of hopping on this Android-based bandwagon of people enabling Google's seemingly illegal practices. Android keeps gaining on iOS because the phone makers throwing free phones at people. Something half-assed good will gain a lot of popularity if you give it away.