I already had my doubts last year with the 5X and 6P, which puzzled me as a long-time Nexus user hanging on to a Nexus 5, but this Pixel/Pixel XL release seals the coffin for me. Not only is the pricing all wrong, but even for that price there's nothing worth writing home about - Google is stagnating, there's zero innovation in there other than cosmetic updates. Very disappointed.
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It's interesting to read the responses from iPhone users that obviously feel threatened by this innovative new smartphone from Google. Without even bothering to get the facts straight they bash Google using rather ignorant statements. Why they react to competition this way is not surprising, but the vitriol does seem extreme.
Is this Pixel series an iPhone killer?
Absolutely not.
That's the media simply trying to stir things up, generate click bait, and give themselves something to write about.
Is the Pixel a viable serious new smartphone?
Yes it is...
What's amazing is how bad Google is at presenting this exciting new product. When it comes to sales and marketing Google is one of the worst. Why they fail to get help with this and create a worthy marketing team is mind boggling.
But make no mistake, the Pixel XL is a formidable new smartphone that will shake things up in the smartphone sector, no matter what the iPhone advocates have to say about it.
Is this Pixel series an iPhone killer?
Absolutely not.
That's the media simply trying to stir things up, generate click bait, and give themselves something to write about.
Is the Pixel a viable serious new smartphone?
Yes it is...
What's amazing is how bad Google is at presenting this exciting new product. When it comes to sales and marketing Google is one of the worst. Why they fail to get help with this and create a worthy marketing team is mind boggling.
But make no mistake, the Pixel XL is a formidable new smartphone that will shake things up in the smartphone sector, no matter what the iPhone advocates have to say about it.
Lighting headphones as in cheap street ones with LEDs that light up with the music?
the screen resolution is impressive -- great for VR. But whether they can drive that smoothly or not is the question.
Would be awesome if there was end-to-end encryption in that service. Don't want some Google vouyer looking at my pics though.. got a feeling I am being watched
To me Google Assistant could be the game changer. Everything else seems on par or like every other flagship phone, but if Google can really make a true context-sensitive, smart and learning assistant that just works, I'd buy it in a second. Siri is already far behind Google Now, and I've gotten used to having Amazon Echo at home. Looking forward to a future where I don't really have to touch my phone much for typical use.
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Quote of the day for sure! Ignorance is bliss...
Surely you mean, ignorance is rife, because let's be honest reading through this thread it seems to be
I mean if we're honest the Pixels are a solid first effort (yes not their first phones, but under the new rebranding) they compare pretty favourably with many of the high end Android phones and with iPhones.
When we're bound to see a real push forward with the Pixels will be when G start including their own silicone instead of using all off the shelf parts. But in the meantime, there's nothing from a technical standpoint, particularly wrong with them they are solid devices.
If I'm honest, if I were in the market for an Android phone I wouldn't choose either of the Pixels compared to some of the competition on hardware alone. But I might be swayed by the bloat free os, the included free storage and the probability of better updates direct from Google.
I'll never understand the blindly devoted arguments from people in either camp, because I like technology, regardless of who makes it. And no, before anyone "calls me out on it" I'll do it myself.
I don't always agree with Google policies or the fact that I would be a part of their product rather than just a customer. But I can still appreciate their hardware and I particularly like that they are pushing a complete eco-system of devices even more than Apple currently is. I don't currently want a device sitting in the corner listening to every word spoken in my house, not from an advertising first company. I don't want a router with only one Ethernet port. I don't want a VR headset that relies on my phone. But I very much like that they are doing all of these things and one day I may very well be tempted. I am after all a techoholic. And if not, they have the potential to provide competition to Apple that no other company has and that's good for everyone.
By all means discuss the merits and pitfalls of each platform and device. I like a good debate as much as the next person. But some of the wildly inaccurate comments made, not just in this thread or this forum, do no-one any favours. Nor for that matter does blind brand loyalty to any company, embrace the whole world of technology, it's a very exciting place to be right now.
No doubt there's some ridiculous comments flying around from both sides. But how are the Pixels innovative? I'm genuinely curious. The hardware itself is certainly not innovative, at best it's much the same as most other phones on the market.
The only innovation if you want to call it that as far as I can see, is the unlimited free photo and video storage. It has a good virtual assistant, no arguing there but that's not innovative either, it's evolutionary.
As I've said, I quite like what they're doing but I can't shake the feeling that innovative is a bit of a stretch. Solid yes, maybe a smidge overpriced compared to some other Android devices but not innovative, not yet. Let's see what the next couple of years hold once they've really got their teeth stuck into it.
Don't care about Android or Google phones but their AI is truly impressive. Way better than Siri already (Alexa is better as well than Siri). Apple has to step it up big in this area. Another cool thing is the free storage for pictures and video at full resolution. I feel ripped off by Apple now by paying $9.99 a month lol. Google's photo cloud program is way ahead of Apple Photos as well. Their automated stuff in photos is truly impressive and now it's free. Huge advantage.
Apple is getting attacked at every corner now. IMO in hardware they are still somewhat ahead because they have a great engineering team BUT Apple is lagging behind in software. Google's AI and cloud is way ahead. iCloud sucks compare to anything Google and Microsoft with OneDrive/Office 365 offer. Spotify still better than Apple Music/iTunes, and I'd argue that Amazon and Google too with their music services. Photos software is done WAY WAY WAY better by Google and Adobe. Even Amazon is ahead with Alexa (maybe even Microsoft too but I don't use it with my Windows 10).
iOS 10 is still great but has a ton of bugs here and there. MacOS still on par with Microsoft and Google (or better IMO).
I hope Apple seriously wakes up and starts developing better software and AI.
Apple is getting attacked at every corner now. IMO in hardware they are still somewhat ahead because they have a great engineering team BUT Apple is lagging behind in software. Google's AI and cloud is way ahead. iCloud sucks compare to anything Google and Microsoft with OneDrive/Office 365 offer. Spotify still better than Apple Music/iTunes, and I'd argue that Amazon and Google too with their music services. Photos software is done WAY WAY WAY better by Google and Adobe. Even Amazon is ahead with Alexa (maybe even Microsoft too but I don't use it with my Windows 10).
iOS 10 is still great but has a ton of bugs here and there. MacOS still on par with Microsoft and Google (or better IMO).
I hope Apple seriously wakes up and starts developing better software and AI.
Like you said, it's not an "iPhone killer" so it's down to Google's marketing team. If they don't get it right, these phones will be as successful as Google's other Pixel offerings.
Wrong! That is what YOU think! We have heard that over and over again and it is quite old.
Reality may be that many people will get Apple devices because they get the job done hassle free. I personally have jumped quite few times to Android, the iPhone experience for me have been unparalleled. I have not used windows phones but I have heard a good things about the OS (apart from the lack of apps)
Actually, data from surveys shows 88% of iPhone users plan to stick with iPhone and 86% of Samsung users intend to stick with Samsung. That's impressive user retention!
I do agree with this, it's also one of the reasons I keep coming back to Apple despite having tried numerous Android devices and a couple of Windows Phones. Windows Phone is a real shame, such a wasted opportunity. Don't get me wrong, the interface never completely gelled with me, but it was a brilliant performing OS, technically if not from a UI perspective very well designed. Just my opinion of course, I know many people who loved Metro.
I would say that while the Pixel camera is probably the best Google has done (didn't think much of any Nexus device camera) - The iPhone still wins based on these sample shots
http://phandroid.com/2016/10/05/google-pixel-versus-iphone-7-camera/
http://phandroid.com/2016/10/05/google-pixel-versus-iphone-7-camera/
"Google just didn't push hard enough on the hardware front this year. It's interesting and all, but they won't shift a lot of units."
I'd have to say, "Neither did apple."
I'd have to say, "Neither did apple."
I see Pixel and Home headed down the same road as the Windows phone or the Amazon phone. Google is a search based company, not a hardware company. They love to build something then abandon it without giving it much of a chance or just on a whim. They've done this with software and hardware. I would not invest money in these products.
Apple's bread and butter is hardware. I own an iPhone and I search with Google, That's how it should be.
Apple's bread and butter is hardware. I own an iPhone and I search with Google, That's how it should be.
Oh really. I think its you not making yourself clear actually. Hence no replies to your post.
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I'm scratching my head on this Pixel phone. I always assume Apple tax on their products, but a Google phone for the same price as the latest iPhones but lacking many hardware features present in iPhones? Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it has no 3D Touch, no waterproofing, no dual camera. Google claims some great camera score - but who cares when it's just deminishing returns without anything new bought to the table.
And what's with the fingerprint sensor on the back? Cases will need holes in the back? And forget ever unlocking it in a car cradle. How on earth did this pass the common sense test?
I hope this doesn't give Apple license to rest on their laurels with engineering when the competition falls so short.
And what's with the fingerprint sensor on the back? Cases will need holes in the back? And forget ever unlocking it in a car cradle. How on earth did this pass the common sense test?
I hope this doesn't give Apple license to rest on their laurels with engineering when the competition falls so short.