Google's Free, Unlimited Google Photos Service Now Available on iOS and Web

[Oletros]

Read "When Wikileaks Met Google" and decide for yourself.

I'm trying to grasp what has to do that book with Apple being safer from FISA orders

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Google isn't selling 'random' statistics. That would be ineffective and worthless. They are selling highly specific profile information that results in higher click-through rates on the ads. A lot of people seem to be more than willing to give up their privacy in exchange for being the recipient of targeted advertising. Now that is sad.

Google does not sell any profile

 

[Michael Goff]

Google isn't selling 'random' statistics. That would be ineffective and worthless. They are selling highly specific profile information that results in higher click-through rates on the ads. A lot of people seem to be more than willing to give up their privacy in exchange for being the recipient of targeted advertising. Now that is sad.

How am I giving up my privacy by letting Google tell people I look up information about Windows, IOS, and Android? Or my porn habits?

 

[DaveN]

Google does not sell any profile

I didn't say that they did.

 

[dannys1]

Google are going to love hundreds of thousands of geo-tagged photos for their world class anayltics operation linked to your name, gender, age, etc - its a goldmine of valuable marketing research information. They'll literally be able to tell some businesses how old their average customer is, what percentage are male/female, how many took photos on Android/iOS there. What sort of people visit place A and place X. They'll be able to dominate the world of offline advertising with all this information.

 

[Oletros]

I didn't say that they did.

Well, I will rephrase:

Google doesn't sells highly specific profile information

 

[thekeyring]

I'd like to hear Jennifer Lawrence's opinion on that. scnr

Once again: iCloud wasn't hacked. Someone fished her password/guessed her security info.

I did the same thing to someone using Hotmail when I was at school. I would never have claimed, at 12 years old, to have "hacked" a Microsoft cloud service.

 

[verniesgarden]

Google are going to love hundreds of thousands of geo-tagged photos for their world class anayltics operation linked to your name, gender, age, etc - its a goldmine of valuable marketing research information. They'll literally be able to tell some businesses how old their average customer is, what percentage are male/female, how many took photos on Android/iOS there. What sort of people visit place A and place X. They'll be able to dominate the world of offline advertising with all this information.

they already do that.

 

[lazard]

Once again: iCloud wasn't hacked. Someone fished her password/guessed her security info.

I did the same thing to someone using Hotmail when I was at school. I would never have claimed, at 12 years old, to have "hacked" a Microsoft cloud service.

iCloud wasn't hacked, it was bruteforced which was a huge security flaw.

 

[oliversl]

All white UI, slow "material" design animations, the app has no soul. Its empty, need more love.

 

[adammull]

If like Apple is immune to FISA requests

Apple is not immune to a warrant. Google will simply mine your metadata on their own for their own gain.

 

[Michael Goff]

All white UI, slow "material" design animations, the app has no soul. Its empty, need more love.

Slow animations? Are they really slow on iOS? I'm going to check on my Nexus 6 and S6 (if I download it) and see if it's slow on Android.

Edit: Nope, fast on both devices. On my iPhone 6+, it's smooth and fast as well.

 

[adammull]

google doesn't sell personal information.

ha ha ha ha ha ha

 

[Oletros]

ha ha ha ha ha ha

I/ suppose that those laughs is because you think Google sell information. If so, can you point to any source that proves your claim?

 

[armandxp]

If the Mac uploader doesn't work with the Mac Photo's app, then it's kind of useless........

 

[Bubba Satori]

And just like that, the NSA now has turnkey access to your photos. I will stick to Apple, thanks.

Naiveté is not a beach on the Côte d'Azur.

 

[ProwlingTiger]

No, it was brute forcing and using a bad recovery method. It was all Apple, not iCloud.

Brute forcing is a sign of a weak password. Any password through any service can theoretically be brute-forced if given enough time. This wasn't Apple. She had a weak password and recovery options.

"After more than 40 hours of internal investigation, it said,"we have discovered that certain celebrity accounts were compromised by a very targeted attack on user names, passwords and security questions, a practice that has become all too common on the Internet."

 

[Bawstun]

Google isn't selling 'random' statistics. That would be ineffective and worthless. They are selling highly specific profile information that results in higher click-through rates on the ads. A lot of people seem to be more than willing to give up their privacy in exchange for being the recipient of targeted advertising. Now that is sad.

Because you have to agree with their ToS in order to continue or use their service. ANYONE's product or service. If you don't, you basically can't use the internet to communicate. In today's world, that's entirely unrealistic. Which I'm sure everyone including the NSA was betting on.

 

[dannys1]

they already do that.

True, but now sucking in millions more users with a free service makes that information 10x more accurate and indepth.

TV ratings companies work on a sample of pool of hundreds and get accurate results - Google is working with sample pools of millions, they know everything anyone could want to know about how humans behave.

 

[lazard]

Brute forcing is a sign of a weak password. Any password through any service can theoretically be brute-forced if given enough time. This wasn't Apple. She had a weak password and recovery options.

"After more than 40 hours of internal investigation, it said,"we have discovered that certain celebrity accounts were compromised by a very targeted attack on user names, passwords and security questions, a practice that has become all too common on the Internet."

When you're given an unlimited amount of tries to enter your username and password, yeah that's on Apple.

 

[kdarling]

Google isn't selling 'random' statistics. That would be ineffective and worthless. They are selling highly specific profile information that results in higher click-through rates on the ads. A lot of people seem to be more than willing to give up their privacy in exchange for being the recipient of targeted advertising. Now that is sad.

Apple does the same thing with their iAds.



Heck, they're probably even more targeted because they have us totally covered by iTunes address, iTunes credit card, our iTunes media purchases, Apple Store purchases, device locations, etc. I've read that they can even target sexual preferences, which they've figured out from their info on our habits.



Don't even get me started on what the credit card companies sell, because they know our daily purchases. It's why payment insiders think banks were willing to give a percentage to Apple, so Apple wouldn't hide it from them like Google Wallet mostly did. (The idea that it was about security is a canard for the naive. EMVCo was already setting up tokenization.)

 

[marvz]

I/ suppose that those laughs is because you think Google sell information. If so, can you point to any source that proves your claim?

If not, can you explain how Google is making any profit?

There is a reason all of Google's service are free to use...

 

[69Mustang]

They are.

Google's unlimited photos are not "free" like they blatantly lie about. They're free in the sense that you won't have to send them cash. You pay for them by giving Google details about your private life. You tell them where you vacation, near/inside what businesses you take pictures, how often you travel, and so on and so forth.

Example 1

Wrong. Apple is allowing encryption on devices and the cloud they they don't have keys to. They don't peek at it so no access. Google peeks so they do.

Example 2

It's not about laws, it's about products and with Google your photos are their product or better said your personal life will be used to advertise more precisely and to do market research.
Why do people don't get this?

Example 3

"You are the product" is just plain wrong. Everyone is caught up on this, and I think Tim Cook was the first big name to say it. A person is more than random statistics, which is what Google uses to sell Ad Space. They sometimes share anonymized data with advertisers. But if you value your life to just data, that's sad.

You're simply wasting time MG. You can point these people to the exact lines in the privacy policy that state Apple is doing the exact same thing as Google regarding advertising and data collection. They would act as if you didn't say a thing. They would repeat the same incorrect information in the next post with a similar topic. They'd repeat it, knowing it's wrong. Why? Dogma is my best guess.

I wonder how they are going to rationalize the Google-like capabilities of Proactive? Companies collect information. Apple is one of those companies. They very clearly tell you that. Sometimes people don't want to see what they don't want to see. So basically, it doesn't exist.

 

[C DM]

Brute forcing is a sign of a weak password. Any password through any service can theoretically be brute-forced if given enough time. This wasn't Apple. She had a weak password and recovery options.

"After more than 40 hours of internal investigation, it said,"we have discovered that certain celebrity accounts were compromised by a very targeted attack on user names, passwords and security questions, a practice that has become all too common on the Internet."

There are also other aspects to brute force attacks that lie on the service provider end of things: https://threatpost.com/apple-fixes-...e-app-connected-to-celbrity-photo-leak/107997

What good would encryption do if the hacker has the keys to unlock the encryption?

Recalled that incorrectly, it was that they didn't offer 2-factor authentication for iCloud backups (in addition to having an exploit in Find My iPhone that allowed for brute forcing).

 

[Oletros]

If not, can you explain how Google is doing any profit?

Selling ad space? But I suppose that searching for that is a very hard thing to do.

 

[dannys1]

I/ suppose that those laughs is because you think Google sell information. If so, can you point to any source that proves your claim?

Other than Tim Cook categorically saying in a video "Google is in the business of selling your personal information" and then not being sued for deformation or slander because its true you mean?