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Why would iPhone users use the flash??? Using Night Mode and adjusting exposure levels is the way a normal iPhone user takes pictures of a night sky. Why is google depicting their iPhone's photography usage this misleading way?
 
Samsung has been doing this for years.. people never switch... they even changed their Note Series to Ultra.. it doesn't work this way.. just make better phones and build a more streamlined ecosystem.
The Note series and the S series were redundant. That's why merging the two made sense especially when the second half of the year is devoted to foldable.
Bought a Pixel 7 pro recently to replace my 12PM. Yes, Pixel is a nice phone, I was glad to get back the functions I miss in my 12PM. But, I got some issues....
1) Battery could drain 25% in about 6-7 hours without doing anything.
2) Making calls to a keytone assisted numbers wouldn't work after 2-3 sub menus.
3) Using apps like Signal is a pain in the ass where in iPhone it just works.

I started using it as my second phone instead after 2 days of use. The camera is very good, functions like magic eraser is a joy to play with. Anyhow, I left it today to check the issues with battery. Wish I had spent that money on a small mirrorless camera instead.
The reason you didn't like the battery life is because until last year, the flagship Android chipsets were all fabbed with Samsing foundries which are terrible at efficiency and the Pixel chipset is no exception.

If you buy an Android using a Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 chip battery life is on par with the iPhone.

Also I would never advise an iPhone user to get a Pixel. Hardware is just not good enough even though the software is. Samsung matches iPhones in hardware.
The only company with a history of long term support is Apple.
All Samsung are doing is promising, considering most of their phones las 2/3 years Max, it doesn't fill me with confidence, about their long term support.
I think you are out of the loop a bit. Samsung promises 4 years of software updates and 5 years of security updates. That's longer than Google which promises 3/4.

Considering Apple discontinued the iPhone X after just 5 years of software updates, there really isn't a huge difference.

Arguably I would say the Samsung phones are updated longer than the iPhone because on Android all system apps and security updates are decoupled from the OS and located in Play services. This makes OS updates less relevant.

Half of what Apple announced for iOS 17 would have just been a app update on Android
 
To be fair to Google, Apple have been coasting the regular model for years now. Features like VRR and telephoto cameras are not ‘Pro’ features by any margin. They deliberately nickel and dime the regular model just to up sell.

It’s not just about features of course but it’s difficult for Apple to justify why the regular model doesn’t have a 90hz display or 3 cameras.

This is even more galling when Samsung offer everything on their base S23 and then spoil their customers with the Ultra model.

I and everyone else here wants a top end iPhone that constantly pushes the envelope and treats the customer but that’s not what we have.
This is all true. It’s exactly what we want and the Pro models seem to promise that but Apple always omits something that almost every other device on the market has. They are good at maximizing profit.

I think a lot of Apple’s user base wants durable hardware and familiar UI and Apple is keen to exploit that by being slow to implement changes until they can make features their own, keeping the long term conservative tech users happy and every so often picking up platform hoppers who always want the bleeding edge.

It seems to be a good business model so I doubt that will change any time soon, though the Vision Pro and features like Face ID shows they can engineer the best of the best anytime they really want to.
 
i LOVE this!!!!


I dream of a world where everyone finally kicks the blue bubble and I can get a real, customisable pocket computer again, instead of dumbed down, locked down iOS for idiot boomers.
Uhhh, not sure what world you live in, but most “boomers” are Android users. The younger generations almost exclusively use Apple.
 
All of that can be addressed and turned off, one way or another, if the savvy user wants to on Android. Far, far more customizable than iOS.
Not all of it can. Not if you don't want to give up Google Play Services altogether and all the functionality that comes with it.
And if you keep it, you're keeping the worst data harvesting bloatware out there.

The Note series and the S series were redundant. That's why merging the two made sense especially when the second half of the year is devoted to foldable.

The reason you didn't like the battery life is because until last year, the flagship Android chipsets were all fabbed with Samsing foundries which are terrible at efficiency and the Pixel chipset is no exception.

If you buy an Android using a Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 chip battery life is on par with the iPhone.

Also I would never advise an iPhone user to get a Pixel. Hardware is just not good enough even though the software is. Samsung matches iPhones in hardware.

I think you are out of the loop a bit. Samsung promises 4 years of software updates and 5 years of security updates. That's longer than Google which promises 3/4.

Considering Apple discontinued the iPhone X after just 5 years of software updates, there really isn't a huge difference.

Arguably I would say the Samsung phones are updated longer than the iPhone because on Android all system apps and security updates are decoupled from the OS and located in Play services. This makes OS updates less relevant.

Half of what Apple announced for iOS 17 would have just been a app update on Android
If you buy a SD Gen 2 device then yes, in head to head battery tests it's pretty efficient. In real world usage, over the duration of a typical day, Android has way too much garbage telemetry and data harvesting that dents your battery life pretty significantly.

I used rooted Android flagships for the past 10 years and I've given up trying to mess with this data collection machine and optimize it.
 
Apple had built a formidable ecosystem around the iPhone and Google is stuck fighting the early wars of 2010 by comparing individual features which consumers simply no longer care about.

It’s not enough to be able to take a photo that is clearer than the iPhone’s, or have a display that’s better. You gotta beat the entire Apple ecosystem, and in that regard, android is way behind.

And Apple has already announced the vision pro, and Google is still talking about phones.

There is nothing google can do at this point that can remotely threaten Apple.
 
Apple had built a formidable ecosystem around the iPhone and Google is stuck fighting the early wars of 2010 by comparing individual features which consumers simply no longer care about.

It’s not enough to be able to take a photo that is clearer than the iPhone’s, or have a display that’s better. You gotta beat the entire Apple ecosystem, and in that regard, android is way behind.

And Apple has already announced the vision pro, and Google is still talking about phones.

There is nothing google can do at this point that can remotely threaten Apple.

People still care about phones, smartphones are the market consumers care about not VR/AR

I haven't heard a single mention of Vision Pro from anybody I know, they aren't selling those to in any volume at all.
 
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This is all true. It’s exactly what we want and the Pro models seem to promise that but Apple always omits something that almost every other device on the market has. They are good at maximizing profit.

I think a lot of Apple’s user base wants durable hardware and familiar UI and Apple is keen to exploit that by being slow to implement changes until they can make features their own, keeping the long term conservative tech users happy and every so often picking up platform hoppers who always want the bleeding edge.

It seems to be a good business model so I doubt that will change any time soon, though the Vision Pro and features like Face ID shows they can engineer the best of the best anytime they really want to.
It comes down to driving force within the company. The last iPhone with any big features nobody else had was arguably the 10 which was 7 years ago. I’m not saying that they need to come up with anything as groundbreaking as FaceID any time soon but an Ultra iPhone that packs in as much tech as possible alongside the existing models wouldn’t go amiss.

A smaller magnetic Pencil, manual camera settings, periscope zoom, USB 4.0; there is a lot to pack in if they wanted.

If they can do it with the Watch….
 
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Wow. It's like the "I'm a Mac" ads, except Apple is on the receiving end this time.

Honestly, the biggest surprise is that it took Google (or anyone else) this long to make a funny series of attack ads against the iPhone.

Maybe Samsung never tried because they already have more marketshare than Apple so attack ads don't work well, and most of the rest of the manufacturers lack the budget for such an ad campaign?

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What a dumb series of ads, but then again that's my reaction to pretty much all ads.

The iPhone has become a bit stale though and, at least on the software side, has delivered very few things I was or am genuinely excited about. I also can't think of anything in particular over the last five years or so that has meaningfully improved my user experience.

So yeah, I do think it has plateaued. At a high level for sure, but plateaued nonetheless.

I dunno.... Funny ads are usually pretty effective. It'll create some buzz if nothing else.

Truth is, all smartphone have plateaued. Like all technologies, they reach maturity and then change is more incremental. Nobody's amazed at how completely different and new the latest microwave oven or toaster is.
 
I have always seen this as a desperate last resort for boosting sales. If a product is not good enough on its own, without comparing to a specific brand and model, it is doomed.

And I do remember the Mac and PC commercials. And though I found them somewhat funny, same premise. Just don’t.
 
I have always seen this as a desperate last resort for boosting sales. If a product is not good enough on its own, without comparing to a specific brand and model, it is doomed.

And I do remember the Mac and PC commercials. And though I found them somewhat funny, same premise. Just don’t.

I've always viewed price cuts as a last resort for a failed product, but they took that path from day 1.
 
I don't really get ads like this. They just come off as saying "see, we're obsessed with our competitors. Are you too? Well that's a reason to buy our thing."

It worked once with Mac vs PC but there were a bunch of circumstances there; the actors were brilliant, the ads were funny, visually they didn't look like much else on TV, and "PC" wasn't really a specific competitor. "Monopoly" was on consumers' minds in a big way. I think that might be the only time this works.

I mean the iPhone came out first . . . fifteen years ago.
 
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