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Google's New 'iPager' Ad Shames Apple for Using Outdated Messaging Standard
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Why are people against and mocking google for this?
Because RCS is awesome. Why is anyone defending apple monopoly here?
Just imagine sending an encrypted message to anyone in your list and not caring if they have:
- WhatsApp, Instagram, Tiktok, Meta Messager, Telegram.
- Verizon or Tmobile
- Android or iPhone.
Communicating without platform dependencies, even Google or Apple, App, phone brand or operator.
You just send it to their number.
And it's encrypted. And you can have encrypted group chats (you don' care in which platform everyone is in), and send high quality pictures or files.
Because RCS is awesome. Why is anyone defending apple monopoly here?
Just imagine sending an encrypted message to anyone in your list and not caring if they have:
- WhatsApp, Instagram, Tiktok, Meta Messager, Telegram.
- Verizon or Tmobile
- Android or iPhone.
Communicating without platform dependencies, even Google or Apple, App, phone brand or operator.
You just send it to their number.
And it's encrypted. And you can have encrypted group chats (you don' care in which platform everyone is in), and send high quality pictures or files.
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Dear Google,
Apple doesn't care.
Give it up.
Apple doesn't care.
Give it up.
A very long thread about how RCS seems to be just another way for Google to get your data:
Considering that visual voicemail is not even implemented by most carriers, I’m not surprised that a more complex and expensive messaging standard is having trouble finding traction.
The whole idea seems to be to lift the functionality of iMessage, WhatsApp, Signal and so on into the operating system, and make cross-platform messaging apps obsolete at a stroke.
The whole idea seems to be to lift the functionality of iMessage, WhatsApp, Signal and so on into the operating system, and make cross-platform messaging apps obsolete at a stroke.
Apple’s customers aren’t demanding Apple fix iMessage by using RCS because they don’t actually care enough about improving messaging between platforms.
It would appear that “better MMS” is not something carriers are interest in improving or, in some cases, maintaining. Though it’s not a lot of carriers yet, it appears that in 2021, some started giving sundown dates for MMS while telling customers
Farewell, MMS: Messaging service set to end after mid-November
With no more MMS, SMS texts cannot be used to send photos, animations and music files in the near future. Read more at straitstimes.com. Read more at straitstimes.com.
This is not the first time RCS has been brought up here.
It’s been examined, re-examined, and re-re-examined for years by now. RCS had some promise, US carriers couldn’t figure out how to work together on it and gave it up. If you go to GSMA.com, the folks that created RCS haven’t updated the RCS section of their website since 2020, it’s dead.What Google is doing is only tangentially related to RCS anymore. That’s why even Google doesn’t refer to it as RCS, they always label it “Google RCS”.
It’s funny how Google is indicating that “SMS is outdated” yet, it’s outlasted EVERY single option they’ve ever provided. And, with ‘Google RCS’ falling back to SMS when there’s no data signal, it’ll outlast ‘Google RCS’, too!
No it won't. iMessage falls below the threshold for this. And since iMessage does, then Google RCS won't even ping the radar.
I find that ad quite amusing, much better than the Apple bashing ones Samsung do. While it would be good to have RCS on iPhones, I rarely SMS anyone - it's either iMessage or Whatsapp!
I'd like RCS. Then I might not be forced to use bloody WhatsApp all the time, which is the current reality. I don't really want Meta's 3rd party software/service to communicate with a lot of people and I also don't want to have to alternate between 2 messaging apps all the time, which is the current reality.
It's cute you think Apple doesn't think about Google at all....Google: We just think about your poor users.
Apple:
Apple is a for profit corporation with stock holders. Their ONLY goal is sales/money/stock price. And nothing wrong with that.
iMessage - USA
WhatsApp - Europe
Not a fan of WhatsApp being owned by Meta but the only saving grace is everything is encrypted if I need to use it. I have only a few people that are Android. I don't talk to them much
WhatsApp - Europe
Not a fan of WhatsApp being owned by Meta but the only saving grace is everything is encrypted if I need to use it. I have only a few people that are Android. I don't talk to them much
This is a US-only problem. The rest of the world uses WhatsApp.
Another option if of course for Apple to open iMessage and anyone can implement a standard. Heck, it could even become an GSMA standard for all platforms
Not going happen as they need it as part of the closed ecosystemAnother option if of course for Apple to open iMessage and anyone can implement a standard. Heck, it could even become an GSMA standard for all platforms
benefit for google: most communication would happen between iOS and Android devices, people would stop using WhatsApp and other messaging apps so Google can get all the data.
Armed with RCS, Google Messages is the current face of the company's longstanding quest for a worthy messaging app. While the multipurpose SMS app now has the features to rival the likes of WhatsApp, it still fails in one key area—and that area is spam. That’s especially true when the sources are verified business accounts that have been hassling scores of users lately with spammy in-chat advertisements within Google Messages.
A settings option in Google Messages called Chat features is what enables the app’s RCS capabilities. Simply turning it off will be a fool-proof way to keep these pesky companies out of your SMS inbox for good. Inside the app’s Settings menu, tap on General > Chat features and toggle the Enable chat features off. This should do the trick and your standard SMS services will continue to work as normal.
Armed with RCS, Google Messages is the current face of the company's longstanding quest for a worthy messaging app. While the multipurpose SMS app now has the features to rival the likes of WhatsApp, it still fails in one key area—and that area is spam. That’s especially true when the sources are verified business accounts that have been hassling scores of users lately with spammy in-chat advertisements within Google Messages.
A settings option in Google Messages called Chat features is what enables the app’s RCS capabilities. Simply turning it off will be a fool-proof way to keep these pesky companies out of your SMS inbox for good. Inside the app’s Settings menu, tap on General > Chat features and toggle the Enable chat features off. This should do the trick and your standard SMS services will continue to work as normal.
Why would Apple invest money in developing the technology and make it open source so that others can benefit from it ?
if you don't sync iMessages between devices that data is not stored in Apple servers.
there was an issue where Apple couldn't give messages from a phone that criminal was using to government because they said unless user syncs data between devices or do a iCloud backup they can't access the data.
I am not saying Apple is not using user data for advertisements.