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Google's New 'iPager' Ad Shames Apple for Using Outdated Messaging Standard
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Maybe they are still trying to use Google Talk and Hangouts.
Saying hello to Allo and Duo: new apps for smart messaging and video calling
Today we’re sharing a preview of two new apps that take a fresh look at how people connect: Allo, a smart messaging app, and Duo, a simple, fast one-to-one video calling…blog.google
why can’t everybody just use Allo and Duo instead of iMesssage and FaceTime?! Oh wait…
Apple 2023, everything is green even the messages
That nobody uses because everybody in the USA uses iMessage and everybody in Europe (and the rest of the world) uses Whatsapp.
RCS is a dead standard, like Betamax. Google RCS is a proprietary, closed-source messaging service… and yes, is an app.
RCS isn't just another messaging app, it's a standard that's being adopted across multiple carriers. Apple should absolutely embrace it -- keep the blue and green bubbles, but fall back to RCS instead of SMS. Of course, the EU may eventually force this issue.
Saying Apple locks people in because of iMessage is like saying Sony locks you into PlayStation because of the dualsense controller. How does that lock you in? They have a product that people prefer. That’s just how we choose products we want. No one is locked into anything. If you think that then you don’t realize how simple it is to switch. Yeah people like their blue bubbles. That’s their choice to be important to them. Not yours to tell them it’s not.
Actually it's Google implementation of a protocol that's partially closed sourced and gathers quite a lot of metadata that's stored on their servers; plus it's an app as well or at least an OS integration.
This is a tough one. I love imessage for numerous reasons, but also agree with everything said in this video. I have a good friend on Android and its pretty irritating to look at pixelated photos and videos that look like they were takin with a potato. Group chats are also annoying like others have mentioned. Dont care about green vs blue.
No “standard” requires everything to go through Google’s servers.
Again… it’s not a standard. It’s a dead one. The few carriers that adopted it, dropped it. It’s gone. This is Google RCS, and Google RCS ≠ RCS. It’s closed-source, proprietary, and has no third party access.
the rcs problem is mostly americans complaining
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How would purchasing an Android device help anything when it's still a 2 OS world? You'd still have the same issue messaging from an Android to an iPhone.
And I never said this was my issue.
I said it was off-putting how Tim Cook treated the referenced customer.
If your customer has a complaint, telling them the solution is to buy more hardware to give to another person is not tenable. You said Apple customers are happy with it. The person asking Tim Cook this question was an Apple customer who was not happy with is one aspect of their iPhone.
And it's just very black-and-white thinking to say nobody should ever offer feedback to a company whose products they use. Your post reminds me of the perseverating character Tom Cruise played in Born on The Fourth of July where he kept yelling, "Love it or leave it! Love it or leave it!"
Well calm down; some people like it and want to offer feedback.
Edit: I wanted to edit to add, I don't necessarily think Apple should use RCS. I just think it's their and Google's responsibility to meet the demands of their customers, to work something out, rather than foisting the consequences of their machinations on their users. Work out a deal; there is a higher good than just "owning" the other company.
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I really wish Apple would make their own open source system that had the same features as RCS with detailed explanations about privacy and even allowing other companies to implement servers for it and have a say in future feature improvements. I would love RCS if it wasn’t shackled to Google in a very shady way. It’ll never happen, though.
Which I just find weird. Apple has just over half the US smartphone marketshare so what happens when you’re in a group and, statistically, almost half of your friends can’t access it. Are they sending SMS messages into them?
Strangely enough the UK has similar iPhone marketshare, standing at 50% compared to 57% in the US.
I’m no fan of WhatsApp or Meta but I can see why it became to go to messaging service and that’s where everyone is.
Some people hate Facebook and everything they stand for.
Including the little shrimp in charge.
RCS is not an "App". I'm sorry, but you don't know what you are talking about here.
I use it when I’m traveling with my android friends overseas. Also, Facebook messenger is handy.
It's so odd seeing the number of people that are okay with Apple sticking with sending completely unencrypted SMS messages as the standby if both parties don't use iMessage, while also refusing to allow half the world to use iMessage. Obviously it helps Apple's lock-in customers, but it does nothing but harm users.
There's no upside to this for anyone.
There's no upside to this for anyone.
For everyone who thinks RCS is a standard, just look to todays news: a carrier is giving a platform an upgraded messaging app by using the messaging service that’s operating by the owner of that platform and that app: