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i dont think the ip 4.5 or 5 will be all that.

Its not going to have NFC or support the 4g network until 2012 (iphone 6). It would be great if they could do this now but Apple takes one concept and runs with it throughout every product. I thnk it may have a bigger screen and will duo core, possibly support 64gb.

I do however think ios5 will be "epic"
 
i dont think the ip 4.5 or 5 will be all that.

Its not going to have NFC or support the 4g network until 2012 (iphone 6). It would be great if they could do this now but Apple takes one concept and runs with it throughout every product. I thnk it may have a bigger screen and will duo core, possibly support 64gb.

I do however think ios5 will be "epic"

Maybe its just me, but I really don't care for or think that NFC or 4G will change my experience at all. I have NFC on a Nexus S I'm using and it seems like its just there for glory.
 
This happens every year...

People expect these amazing updates, and revolutionary changes and then when Apple is finished showing off the new product they're here complaining about how lame the update was.

Lower your expectations, folks. It'll make this summer a lot less stressful for you.
 
But don't you really prefer the current iPhone 4's screen to that of any 4" screen on the market? Can't you really read more easily on the iPhone 4's screen?

:)

I trust them to make the right decision. I am sure it'll be a very good compromise.
I can read it better compared to the 3GS, but not to the 4" screens everyone else has. Tiny is still tiny, however clear it is.
 
Maybe its just me, but I really don't care for or think that NFC or 4G will change my experience at all. I have NFC on a Nexus S I'm using and it seems like its just there for glory.

where do you use it on the nexus s?

I think Apple would make deals with places to make it more useful.


I think more "wow" factor will come from ios5
 
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Why? They reference iPhone 5 because it's the fifth gen iPhone. Why does someone always have to point out their opinion and say no it will be iPhone "4gstuxyz678". No one knows what the new iPhone will actually be called so let's leave it at iPhone 5 please until we have a real name besides that.

Thanks
 
Yes, it's going to be "just" a spec bump, just like the rest of them--faster processors, more ram, better screens, etc. These have been the upgrades.

What do people think, it's going to sprout wings and fly? It's a phone.
 
No NFC and no LTE means this is going to be a pretty ho-hum update. It seems like the focus is on iOS 5, which is great and all, but everyone with an iPhone 4 will be getting iOS 5 too. When iOS 6 comes, on the other hand, those of us with the iPhone 5 will be stuck without NFC and LTE for another year.

Having said that, I'm very happy I didn't jump into the iPhone game with the iPhone 3G because it was still not ready for primetime at that point. Maybe I'll just bite the bullet and re-upgrade to the iPhone 6 if it in fact has both LTE and NFC.
 
I'm hoping for a slight redesign to eliminate any "antenna gate" issues even though it was really a non issue and totally overblown by the media. I like the aluminum iphone mockup, but I doubt Apple would make such a radical change after the iPhone 4 redesign. I'm also hoping for the usual battery life increase as well as iOS5. I don't know how to screen could get much better besides making it edge to edge.
 
where do you use it on the nexus s?

I think Apple would make deals with places to make it more useful.


I think more "wow" factor will come from ios5

I don't have anywhere to use NFC so I just leave it disabled lol.. I even have a front facing camera on the Nexus S but I've never used it. Apple will add these things when they have an easy way for them to be used. Maybe NFC can be used for phones doing something in close proximity like gaming maybe? I dunno, maybe NFC's bandwidth is too little for some of these things.

No NFC and no LTE means this is going to be a pretty ho-hum update. It seems like the focus is on iOS 5, which is great and all, but everyone with an iPhone 4 will be getting iOS 5 too. When iOS 6 comes, on the other hand, those of us with the iPhone 5 will be stuck without NFC and LTE for another year.

Having said that, I'm very happy I didn't jump into the iPhone game with the iPhone 3G because it was still not ready for primetime at that point. Maybe I'll just bite the bullet and re-upgrade to the iPhone 6 if it in fact has both LTE and NFC.

How many people worldwide are served by LTE? And for those few, besides maybe tethering what else will take advantage of increased speed? If anything HSPA+ in the iPhone 5 will be more likely.
 
Um... how do you figure that? Did they not choose the name? Was someone holding a gun to their head saying "you can't call it the iPhone 2!"?

Like others have said. Apple names their products what they want to name it. There isn't a pattern and they don't care what we think. ;)

Sorry, what i meant by "stuck with iPhone 3G" is that they were stuck upgrading to iPhone 3G to iPhone 3GS, because the iPhone 3G was named due to the 3G network. Hence going from iPhone 3G to iPhone 3 made no sense.

Agreed there isn't a pattern, but i think for calling the device anything iPhone 5 for now would be sufficient being the 5th generation of the iPhone.

I want to agree with you because I think it will be the iPhone 5 as well. I think it's perfectly reasonable for them to avoid 4S or 4G or 4GS or any 'complicated' naming schemes... but at the same time, I think the reason the second iPhone was named 3G was to emphasize that it had 3G. If the new phone has 4G it's not completely unreasonable to think they would want to emphasize it again (and vice versa, if it DOESN'T have 4G, naming it iPhone 5 would be a way of taking attention away from not having 4G).
The problem with naming it 4G is that the following year, it would be weird to jump from the iPhone 4G to the iPhone 6... and even weirded when 5G comes out and they're on iPhone 7 or 8 (just guessing) because they can't exactly go backwards.

I was actually thinking about this on my drive into work this morning. I'm wondering if they'll ever abandon the numbering of the mobile devices? On their website it just lists iPhone, iPad etc and then the pages it links to specify iPhone 4 or iPad 2. Having said that, the iPod Nano is just the Nano, the Shuffle is just the shuffle. On the forums we refer to them as 4th gen or 6th gen which gets difficult.. it's definitely easier to identify it as iPhone 4.

Their computers are just Macbook Pros, iMacs, etc.. but they have different revisions (minor and major) and revision cycles (the only minor bump for mobiles was the capacity of the original iPhone, right?).

I wouldn't be surprised to see it eventually just be the iPad or the iPhone but I guess if they're focusing on consumers, it would make more sense to just label them as numbers... after all, the iPhone 8 HAS TO BE better than the iPhone 7 or 6.

Good point Jon, but i do believe that Apple might call the iPhone 6 as iPhone LTE for the new network. Or they might not call it anything and stick with the numerical value to prevent confusion, as it makes sense for anyone to be confused with iPhone 4G as their 6th generation iPhone.
 
im sure a half inch will help with that ;)
Yeah, that's why all those 4"ers are selling like crazy. You'd be surprise what a 15% increase in size will do to make web pages much more enjoyable to read. You're assuming everyone has the eyes of a 20 year old.
 
Yeah, that's why all those 4"ers are selling like crazy. You'd be surprise what a 15% increase in size will do to make web pages much more enjoyable to read. You're assuming everyone has the eyes of a 20 year old.

your right when you have good eye sight its hard to imagine what things look like if you dont, i can see 4" but any bigger than that your phone will be the size of an ipad.
 
There's gonna be a hardware overhaul, pretty much the same specs as iPad (2), and It WILL be called iPhone 5, not iPhone HD, because they could've done that with the 4, what with the Retina Display and everything. Unless, they put a 1920x1080 screen in there *Dreams.....* :D
I don't think there will be much of a change from a design stand point, maybe just an antenna redesign. A complete redesign will be had by iPhone 6.
Which makes me think about Apple's name-game. What about the 27th iteration of the iPhone? iPhone 27? COME ON APPLE. That's boring, and predictable. What happened to unpredictable Apple? Who thinks that the next iPhone should be named....... The iPhone Wombat HD! :D

-AT
 
The rumors have been startlingly scarce so far. I'm honestly betting on either aluminum or liquid metal back, probably larger display, dual core processor and I'm sure a revamped UI.

In fact, I'm almost equally excited about iOS 5. I really think this is going to be the year of a totally revamped user interface, and I'm really looking forward to it.

Don't get your hopes up too high, even though iPhone4 was a big improvement over the 3GS it was in many cases a disappointment, bad antenna design, glass back, minimal OS improvements, no notification system, mediocre multi tasking, 3.5 inch display and so on....

Epic fail? Lets wait to make that call.
 
The rumors have been startlingly scarce so far. I'm honestly betting on either aluminum or liquid metal back, probably larger display, dual core processor and I'm sure a revamped UI.

In fact, I'm almost equally excited about iOS 5. I really think this is going to be the year of a totally revamped user interface, and I'm really looking forward to it.

I actually like the current design, so I wouldn't really mind if it stayed the same. What I really want is an A5, and a better camera.
 
This happens every year...

People expect these amazing updates, and revolutionary changes and then when Apple is finished showing off the new product they're here complaining about how lame the update was.

Lower your expectations, folks. It'll make this summer a lot less stressful for you.

The iPhone 4 wasn't a let down at all. Neither was the fourth generation iPod touch, or the second generation MacBook Air.

I don't think its unreasonable to expect great things from Apple, especially as far as the iPhone is concerned. They really seem to be at top-form with their iPhone strategy, and not changing the design would be a mistake. 'Antenna-gate' and all...
 
Don't get your hopes up too high, even though iPhone4 was a big improvement over the 3GS it was in many cases a disappointment, bad antenna design, glass back, minimal OS improvements, no notification system, mediocre multi tasking, 3.5 inch display and so on....
I was really surprised they kept the same screen size (when the rest of the planet went 4") with the iP4. That and concerns about potential problems with a brand new unit (as we've seen) kept me away from it. I hope they address some of these issues this time around.

Larger screen and something besides glass for the back and I'll be happy.
 
It's gonna be called the iPhone 4G, 4G because it'll support AT&T's HSPA+ "4G" network

It will not support "4g" on any network, instead it will be a universal device allowing cdma and gsm. Thats more important to Apple since 4g networks are still being established as we speak. I'm sure they want to avoid network problems like AT&T and the introduction of the 3g model.

they will call it Bi-phone4 :)
 
:DNah, they'll call it iphone 4U. U for universal.
Personally, I think the 2011 iphone will be a minor upgrade like 3GS.
It will not support "4g" on any network, instead it will be a universal device allowing cdma and gsm. Thats more important to Apple since 4g networks are still being established as we speak. I'm sure they want to avoid network problems like AT&T and the introduction of the 3g model.

they will call it Bi-phone4 :)
 
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