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Graphical Glitches Plaguing Some 2020 iMac Owners With Radeon Pro 5700 XT GPU
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Yeah people need to wait for the Apple Silicon versions. After owning iPhones and the latest iPad Pro’s and how amazing these devices work I cannot for the life of me even imagine buying anything with an Intel or AMD chip inside of it today with new Apple Macs on the horizon.
Every so often when have to use my older PC i cringe at how truly awful these computers have been and how we had settled for this junk. I usually now only use my iPad Pro now unless I absolutely need to use an app on my PC. The difference is always night and day.
My wife teaches distance learning and she has so many issues with her PC that i cannot wait to get her an Apple Silicon Mac to make her life easier. She uses her iPad Pro as her secondary device while teaching and it always works flawlessly, but her PC is just headache and frustration inducing Intel and Microsoft trash.
Every so often when have to use my older PC i cringe at how truly awful these computers have been and how we had settled for this junk. I usually now only use my iPad Pro now unless I absolutely need to use an app on my PC. The difference is always night and day.
My wife teaches distance learning and she has so many issues with her PC that i cannot wait to get her an Apple Silicon Mac to make her life easier. She uses her iPad Pro as her secondary device while teaching and it always works flawlessly, but her PC is just headache and frustration inducing Intel and Microsoft trash.
How can we as an user handle, find, suggest or report any sort issues on the software front? It’s kinda quite complicated as I have found nothing of the sort except the Apple communities which are mostly on the useless side or “call Apple Care” because it’s too wide too, all products all problems in a single front end... example, let’s pretend “FCPX crashes when I copy paste a clip”, where do I go with my screen capture of it happening.
Other than it getting hot when I push it I’ve not noticed any real issues on my MBP 16” in terms of graphics. It often seems to crash when sleeping but that’s the only issue I have. I’m not sure it’d be the hardware itself being the issue as we run dozens of AMD graphics cards at work on windows workstations without issues so I’m wondering if their drivers for Mac are just a bit pants. Be interesting to see how the iMacs in the article perform in boot camp and if the same issues arise.
Hey man, funny story on this, I thought I had an “empty computer” because when I bought it (I returned a 2019 and rebought a 2020) the estimate delivery was like 4 weeks but ended up getting it surprisingly in 5 days. What got shipped from the line said this:
It was indeed WAY faster than usual, the whole thing says it’s a dummy computer. I received it, plugged extra RAM, plugged the power chord, pressed the power button and looked at it for about 3mins thinking “I’ll be damned, I received a dummy computer”. Was still hoping it was maybe the 3rd party ram and then it booted.
I think they might go through some sort of boot up checking the very first time because I had exactly the same “issue”...
That definitely sounds like an ongoing thing then, I never saw it because I always have extra screens connected.
But it makes me mad to no end when an issue is obviously there in their faces and is just not fixed.
On adobe photoshop I found an issue on Mac (new PS Mac user here) where saving a file as .PNG but the filename exists, it asks for “do you want to REPLACE the file?”, click on replace, does it thing, finishes, says nothing else, success right?... no, go to the save folder, the file wasn’t replaced but a copy was made with a “- copy.png” suffix appended to its name.
Look around, check forums, the thing has been ongoing FOR YEARS. Bastards have been charging their $60+ a month for years for probably several million people but don’t address a basic save replace feature that was working since 10 years ago... well what those billions of dollars get us now is a community manager rep saying how he is on our side, happy to assist, blah blah blah, and to explain the steps to reproduce it or to try again.
All punks, they just have to, please, use their own hardware/software and eat their own dogsh*t.
Come on man, can agree on some points but to foresee the apocalypse in a couple of days...
Maybe they might have thermal issues, wouldn’t know the internals, but Max Tech has been doing entry offer (8-core base) and highest end benchmarks and doesn’t seem too bad. Not much sound fan, mine for sure doesn't get that noisy ever under any load conditions.
Also the 8-core can be rendering on C4D steadily sucking in 150+ Watts and all cores closer to the TurboBoost 5Ghz cap than ever before (making it actually faster than the 10-core on some multithreaded tasks, since that one does cap lower).
There are a lot of issues with MBP 16" when it's rendering two or more monitors. E.g. build-in screen + one external display, or clamshell mode + two external displays.
The issues is related to overheat, fan speed and sometimes poor performance.
Worth to say - no issues without any monitors.
Could you please tell us a little more about your configuration (which CPU, how much memory, how much internal flash storage)? Thanks.
Wondering why the iMacs with the issue deserve a front page post. But the Mac Pro also riddled with these issues doesn’t. And doesn’t even get a mention.
Ah, well that doesn't affect me. I don't have a need for and don't use external monitors with my 16" MBP. As a computer itself it's as perfect as most computers can get.
Only for internal gpu's which (Intel) never where a problem anyway. For dgpu's it is probably still AMD.
Our 2020 iMac had the same issue. Two external monitors were attached to the iMac and the issue was happening always to the right monitor when the iMac came back from sleep mode. To fix the issue I had to change the resolutions a few times. I thought the HDMI adapter (TB3 to two HDMIs) was causing the issue, so I switched the left and right monitors, but still the issue happened to the right monitor. Now I plugged the adapter into the other TB3 port, then we don't have the issue anymore since then, so I thought one of the TB3 ports were causing the issue...
I have had best experience with Apple products of all my hardware. My coworkers have a brand new Lenovos and they can't continue Zoom meeting beyond 15 min. (although good to get a coffee break while they restart).
Ohh, there were massive dead screen issues with the Nvidia GPU MacBooks
and it took so long for Nvidia to accept the fault that Apple will not forget that soon.
for Mac Pro and possibly iMac Pro, sure.
for iMac, no way. the only reason why Apple uses both igfx and dgfx is because one is better for energy consumption/heat and the other is better for performance. if Apple built their own desktop GPU, it'll be mindful of both states.
the fact that Apple forced AMD to implement Metal and deliberately prevented NVIDIA CUDA support means it should be an easier transition for customers to use Apple's custom GPU.
Can you expand on this and clarify? So far in the iMac thread about this issue, the white line glitch has not been visible under Bootcamp. This has led most to speculate that it's a software, not a hardware, issue. However, if the white line glitch is presenting under Bootcamp then it's likely a hardware issue that's going to require a lot of iMacs to get replaced.
I am gaming in Windows 10 with the RX 5700 XT. Since I got the GPU replaced with a newer batch it has been stable – was giving med sudden black screens and computer restarts before. But sure; when I had a GTX 1070 from Nvidia things ran well too.
One may also wonder why both the Xbox and the Playstation of the current generation and the soon coming new generation is using AMD GPUs, if they are as horrible as you say?
I think there are issues behind the scenes with Navi. If you go outside of the Mac world, the 5700 series has had a lot of complaints leveled against it, where some cards work just fine, others are just a mess. Also, AMD didn't really fill out a product stack with the 5000 series, they are moving on to 6000 before the year is up. That tells me Navi was rushed out and RDNA2 cards might be better.
I had no issues with my own 5700XT that I had, but I've heard a lot of stories about others not being so lucky. Maybe it's an issue with the way the card manages thermals, as there can be GPU hotspots over 90C. Maybe the design was too aggressive, or AMD push the GPUs to their limits in order to be more competitive with NVIDIA.
I had no issues with my own 5700XT that I had, but I've heard a lot of stories about others not being so lucky. Maybe it's an issue with the way the card manages thermals, as there can be GPU hotspots over 90C. Maybe the design was too aggressive, or AMD push the GPUs to their limits in order to be more competitive with NVIDIA.