It doesn't work (from a marketing standpoint) to have a $3000 computer look like a $600 computer, although goodness knows the Mini already looks better than anything it competes with.
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Graphics Cards in New Mac Pro May Be User Replaceable
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It doesn't work (from a marketing standpoint) to have a $3000 computer look like a $600 computer, although goodness knows the Mini already looks better than anything it competes with.
Anyone else sick of waiting and waiting for ACCURATE info about performance and upgrade-ability of various components....
Please Apple....give one to MacFixIt ASAP!!!!
Please Apple....give one to MacFixIt ASAP!!!!
the same thing was said with the pseudo-MXM cards that shipped in iMacs a few years ago. never happened.
being a proprietary format, expect to be stuck with what it came with unless you score an upgrade off ebay or direct from Apple. slight chance, some heinously overpriced upgrade... my memory recalls the $500 premium they wanted for Radeon X800 cards on G5 when the PC counterparts were selling for $150....
apple has made it clear user upgradability/expansion is nowhere near a priority. expect to be locked into what your machine came with, especially with 1st revision hardware.
being a proprietary format, expect to be stuck with what it came with unless you score an upgrade off ebay or direct from Apple. slight chance, some heinously overpriced upgrade... my memory recalls the $500 premium they wanted for Radeon X800 cards on G5 when the PC counterparts were selling for $150....
apple has made it clear user upgradability/expansion is nowhere near a priority. expect to be locked into what your machine came with, especially with 1st revision hardware.
A non-Expandable, disposal, $3000 computer for playing games. I bet it's a short line.
I have a brilliant idea! They should build such a product, with consumer-oriented parts. A high-powered headless consumer desktop.
Don't call it "xMac" or any variant. They should call it..... the Macintosh.
(the problem is that the original Macintosh had a built in display-- so that's basically what the iMac is now)
One person sees a bunch of stuff they don't get.
Another sees a bunch of stuff they don't want.
Less is not always less. And more is sometimes less.
Wrong. Non-user replaceable chips is innovation. Maybe not something you wish for, but a novel thing, idea, or technology.
In actuality, this is NOT innovative because it is keeping it the same as before.
Thunderbolt video cards are possible. There are a lot of "pro card pci-express" options out there, like from Sonnet. I think their just has to be will power and a market reason for a company to actually figure out how to make one.
With all the power of osx being able to push processing power unto the graphics card, that might be a valuable and feasible option.
With all the power of osx being able to push processing power unto the graphics card, that might be a valuable and feasible option.
Yes, finally a user replaceable part that matters!
Yeah? I wonder what one would do with the pulled parts? It's not like they can be sold to Joe, the PC user at discount, hence the conundrum.
I think the stock GPUs are fast enough for the stock CPU(s). Otherwise, one can sink thousands more into the system.
Upgrade anyways
You can always upgrade your GPU to something that is mac supported by Nvidia by just putting a graphics card in an external PCI chasis connected via thunderbolt.
done.
You can always upgrade your GPU to something that is mac supported by Nvidia by just putting a graphics card in an external PCI chasis connected via thunderbolt.
done.
very surprising that a small French website like Mac4ever could have exclusive information nobody had so far...
Their information is just that the GPUs are on daughter boards that are connected via a proprietary connector. So nothing theoretically prevents you from removing the cards and put new ones instead. It's like saying that the GPU of some older iMacs were user-replaceable because they were connected via MXM.
I can see the GPU not being "officially" user replaceable due to the thermal core center. I bet there is a decent amount of thermal paste between the GPU die and that thermal core and/or heat spreader that mates up to the thermal core, and then some thermal pads for the GPU ram chips. Just something for users to potentially botch when upgrading.
We'll see whats up when iFixit and others get their hands on it and rips it down!
We'll see whats up when iFixit and others get their hands on it and rips it down!
My quote from a few days ago (different Mac Pro thread):
Id like to see the same case, but with less costly components (i.e. consumer grade), like an iMac-in-a-tube user accessible HDD/SSD, RAM, maybe a more desktop grade GPU just supply your own monitor
With less bandwidth available to it than the internal PCI-e lanes afford (and something that doesn't effect me but will others - probably no ability to use Apple's displays, at least not fully, if you get them since standalone video cards don't do thunderbolt typically, and the bandwidth wouldn't be there anyway)
The people who post this image aren't actually the target market for the MacPro. If you were, you would already own the old MacPro with many of the peripherals you show in the right side. So, the new MacPro actually reduces the space the equipment takes up. I know that's true in my case.
Of course... PROPRIETARY. Everything Apple is trending that way. Not a good sign at all.
Just solder it to the board so you have to replace the system in 2 years if it fails.
ie... laptop memory in retina MBP
ie... provide a proprietary connector for the SSD like the retina MBP. Make users pay the Apple Tax to upgrade.
I love the 2011 Apple, 2013 Apple, not so much anymore. Its too bad.
Just solder it to the board so you have to replace the system in 2 years if it fails.
ie... laptop memory in retina MBP
ie... provide a proprietary connector for the SSD like the retina MBP. Make users pay the Apple Tax to upgrade.
I love the 2011 Apple, 2013 Apple, not so much anymore. Its too bad.
The 27" iMac (along with the 24" iMac) has always had a separate daughter card for the GPU, and there are some upgrades that you can buy for those (although hard to find and have issues). So I don't see why someone wouldn't make a replacement for the new Mac Pro.