Exactly. FaceTime and iMessage were supposed to be standard. We have standards for these things but nobody will use them. The only reason web pages work is because they were designed back in the days before corporations ruined the internet.
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'Green Bubbles and Blue Bubbles Want to Be Together' Says Samsung Ad Pushing Apple to Adopt RCS
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Exactly. FaceTime and iMessage were supposed to be standard. We have standards for these things but nobody will use them. The only reason web pages work is because they were designed back in the days before corporations ruined the internet.
Being better than SMS is the proverbial 'faster horses'. Why would anybody care these days?
Like bringing out a better version of the iTunes store.
It’s a thing in the US, where Apple has over 50% market share. No US teenager wants to be seen with a green bubble if they can help it, or so I’ve been told.
Peer pressure is real and it’s making Apple billions.
Ok Tim, not nobody even though you don’t hear it. At this point there is no reason not to. But it’s not something that should be so much Apple’s problem. Apple waited for the network cartels to get their **** together and when they realized they couldn’t make money from RCS they did what they always do, left everyone to rot on SMS because there was no financial benefit for them to move on to a better standard.
Apple could encourage the cartel to do this but they also have no financial motive to do so, and they perceive a financial risk to doing so. Therefore it will never happen until the cartels enforce it. So, probably never.
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The only reason for RCS is so Google et al can sell rich ads and deliver them directly to phones.
It was so successful that google turned RCS off in India due to rich text spam:
www.theverge.com
It was so successful that google turned RCS off in India due to rich text spam:
Rampant spam has forced Google to turn off RCS ads in India
Not a great customer experience.
www.theverge.com
Hadn't thought about it, but I feel you are right.
It is funny the level of desperation shown by Google (and now Samsung) to get Apple on the RCS train. SMS has its limitations but at least it was clear and not at the hands of a moody corporation, which no one know what the next product in the chopping block will be.
As an iOS user, I don't need RCS (or want it). And if Apple does implement it, I do hope they add a toggle so it can be turned off. The last thing I need is for Google to be also spying on my texts.
Well standard RCS is not encrypted and for me that would be the primary benefit.
Last I knew, Google's RCS messaging was only private in one-to-one threads. In group chats, Google can read them... as in Google does read them.
I can't see any way of Apple supporting (Google's) RCS without a very awkward UX implementation, or seriously damaging their privacy commitments.
If I'm in an iMessage group chat with 5 friends and one of them wants to invite another (Google RCS) friend, instantly that chat becomes available to Google. So what does Apple do? Warn all users (similar to an insecure HTTP connection)? Should a "voting" UI pop-up, needing an unanimous decision before they're allowed in? An Apple disclaimer that their privacy commitments no longer apply?
No thanks. I'd rather continue using a combination of iMessage and Whatsapp.
If I'm in an iMessage group chat with 5 friends and one of them wants to invite another (Google RCS) friend, instantly that chat becomes available to Google. So what does Apple do? Warn all users (similar to an insecure HTTP connection)? Should a "voting" UI pop-up, needing an unanimous decision before they're allowed in? An Apple disclaimer that their privacy commitments no longer apply?
No thanks. I'd rather continue using a combination of iMessage and Whatsapp.
Question...."Not everything is about economic benefit"?
Answer....What is a statement Apple will never make.
Honestly, I'm not a teen, but I feel like this "discrimination" is mostly fueled by Android users.
I mostly use my iMessages for my kids, and a few of my family/work contacts, so I would say less than a 8% of my messaging). Everyone else talks to me through a third party app, be it Whatsapp, Signal, IG, FB Messenger, etc. At the end of the day, I don't care, and I don't know who has an iphone and who doesn't.
I find it very difficult to believe that the majority of people communicate solely through the first party sms app.
I’m an Apple customer and I’m complaining. Texting between Android and iOS is a bad experience for me as an iOS user and Apple refuses to even try make it better. I don’t care if they adopt RCS or work with Google on a new, more viable and secure standard, but I’m not happy with having to switch between half a dozen apps on my end just to communicate with everyone.
Google’s default implementation is encrypted out the box now. It’s an evolving standard and I’d say the fragmentation everyone is complaining about is due to a very large, influential player in the phone industry refusing to engage in a productive way. They don’t have to, but the end result is fragmented RCS and green messages being unencrypted and fully visible to our carriers.
In the end, the green bubbles and blue bubbles off themselves anyway, so does it really matter?
It's encrypted if it goes through Google servers, and I prefer my texts going through Apple servers only.
Those definitely feel like the sorts of problems Apple could work with Google to address, if those are their concerns.