It’s not really an open standard if only one company implements the standard. Also, I can forgive them for not knowing group chats got encrypted 2 months ago considering they have been pushing RCS hardcore since 2019. You think they would have sorted that out prior to 2 months ago… They also only even made it default on their own phones within the past 3 months. Crying that apple wont support it when they didn’t even have it running by default on the devices they control. Embarrassing.
lol, look at what you are saying.
What an insult to the ad agencies. Stealing user info and spying is not part of their business. Zero evidence to support your claim-chowder
Apple stayed out of the standard before google took the narrative. It doesn’t seem fair for apple to avoid taking part of the evolution of a standard that everyone else is involved in and then a few years later say, “look at how awful rcs is” while still making us use sms/mms. The carriers would bend over backwards to implement rcs if apple joined in, but their lack of involvement ensured nobody would take it seriously.
guaranteed if google got messaging right on their first try, google wouldn't have supported rcs. they're adopting rcs because they don't have anywhere else to go.
Ok. I’m not crying. I’m just stating what I’m observing. Changed my wording on that post to soften the tone. I agree it’s bad that it’s taken this long, but it makes total sense when a major player in the industry refused to support it early on. That doomed it to failure and fragmentation from the beginning. I’m by no means saying RCS in its current state is good at all. What I’m saying is, it had potential but apple made sure that wouldn’t ever be achieved (which they’re allowed to do, but from a consumer standpoint it’s pretty questionable). So we’re left with SMS as the default and we have to be perfectly happy with that on here because god forbid we interact with android users.
And why should Apple be tasked with convincing the industry to spent billions in the infrastructure that would make RCS a functional “fallback” protocol?
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Have you ever been to https://myactivity.google.com/? This is just the stuff they openly admit to. If you have an android phone it even logs every place you visit via location services by default and that appears on this page. I can see what the temperature outside (generalized to “Cool”) was when I listened to a specific song on a Pixel in 2019. Every YouTube video I have ever watched. Every search I have ever made. Every voice command I have ever sent to assistant. Kept forever by default. Seeing this, especially when it had even more detailed Android-only tracking showing, is one of the primary reasons I got an iPhone.
The entire rest of the world, outside the USA, already uses alternatives far and away more than iMessage.
That’s exactly what I meant.
I should have been more specific. I meant Google is crying. You seem reasonable, I just disagree with your conclusions and I question Google’s motivations. In an ideal world, a new standard designed for this decade with encryption standard would be sorted out, and that would be the new fallback for non-iPhones instead of SMS when using iMessage. I don’t like how annoying it is to text my android friends either. But unfortunately I am extremely weary of accepting the current offering here. Apple offered iMessage as an open platform prior to its launch to carriers, and they rejected it because it wouldn’t be as profitable. I really wish that hadn’t have happened.
Just because I want a better standard than RCS doesn’t mean I support or trust google. I absolutely don’t want my messages to go through google’s servers. It didn’t have to be this way. I’d bet if apple had been involved from the beginning, SMS would be dead and carriers would operate the servers. It’s the refusal to participate in a conversation around improved messaging and potentially encryption for everyone that has me questioning their motives. Google isn’t better, not saying that at all, but it gives me pause around apple’s privacy marketing.And why should Apple be tasked with convincing the industry to spent billions in the infrastructure that would make RCS a functional “fallback” protocol?
When RCS fails, in current day, it falls back to SMS…and *sometimes* delivers it. So until the telecoms deliver the fall back infrastructure (which they have literally no financial incentive to do so as there will never be ROI), this new “standard” TRIES to fall back onto the standard it’s meant to replace?
The entire thing is a ********, IMO just another attempt by Google to vacuum up data (because they have *every financial incentive to do so*, and therefore will), so why should Apple go along?
Remember it was JUST revealed that behind the scenes Google doesn’t even search for the terms you type in anymore. Instead they substitute your query with one that more closely aligns with their ad business and searches that instead. To the tunes of billions of dollars a year.
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You should never trust Google, whom from day one have been a military intelligence project.
I mean, sure, but that seems like a far less likely option to me.
The user doesn’t have to understand it. Users don’t understand how sms or iMessage work, why are we suddenly concerned with their understanding of RCS. If implemented correctly, they shouldn’t notice a difference from falling back to sms, except that a lot more of their iMessage features will now work with green bubbles.
