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Gurman the hack earning his wage this week. LMFAO.

only the iPhone and accessories are left to swap to type C, it’ll happen over the next 12 months ending with iPhone 15 and new cases for AirPods and AirPods Pro.

Type C is the way and it’s disgusting that it’s taken them this long to switch from a dinosaur 2.0 connection. Utter Greed.
 
Gurman the hack earning his wage this week. LMFAO.

only the iPhone and accessories are left to swap to type C, it’ll happen over the next 12 months ending with iPhone 15 and new cases for AirPods and AirPods Pro.

Type C is the way and it’s disgusting that it’s taken them this long to switch from a dinosaur 2.0 connection. Utter Greed.
I don't think greed has anything to do with it.
 
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I don't think greed has anything to do with it.
Eh, those lightning cable sales were pretty damn good for the revenue stream. Once it is USB-C, you can easily buy any USB-C cable. For lightning you had to either get it from Apple or get one they certified. Either way they were making money on every cable.
 
I have to say EU regulatory authorities have finally done something positive for us. Most of the time, they just thump their chests from their perch and threaten to make things more expensive and inefficient.
 
Eh, those lightning cable sales were pretty damn good for the revenue stream. Once it is USB-C, you can easily buy any USB-C cable. For lightning you had to either get it from Apple or get one they certified. Either way they were making money on every cable.
I just don't think the money is significant enough to hold back the change. I could be wrong, but that's my view.
 
I can't see a positive point in that for users or Apple. Can you? If you see one, share it.
The positive point is that people will still be able to use their billions of lighting cables after Apple are forced to adopt USB C.
 
Like the USB-A that had the tongue that could go both ways? I've never seen one, and wouldn't trust it to last very long.
Actually, i bought a USB-A to lightning cable with that connector last year and it was like a revelation to me. It still works after one year (to be fair, I don't unplug it very much). Why tf did we never get those connectors?
 
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Not a great idea, at least yet. It would make thousands of accessories obsolete (including CarPlay functionality for many many cars).
There are already devices to make any CarPlay wireless. Apple could release its own.
 
If something better comes, it can be integrated or the base for the next USB, like they did with Thunderbolt. USB C is just a connector type that can support multiple protocols. And when it reaches its limit, a new better standard connector will be developed. But the good thing is that it will be used for everyone, that’s why it’s a standard.

The big question is: why do the guys so worried about innovations being stiffed don’t complain about Lighting still having USB 2.0 speeds in 2022? It’s hilarious
Because most people use it only for charging. I have no issue with going to USB-C, but it's not going to reduce e-waste; it will increase it massively when everyone throws away their lighting cables and "has" to buy new accessories like headphones, keyboards, mice, and touchpads so that everything uses USB-C...
 
The positive point is that people will still be able to use their billions of lighting cables after Apple are forced to adopt USB C.
Don't agree on this one. I see way more negatives especially considering we would all be able to get rid of the multiple cables that are now needed. I could see an adapter dongle to allow people to use their lightening cables until they are shot, but developing what you are suggesting does not make sense to me.
 
Because most people use it only for charging. I have no issue with going to USB-C, but it's not going to reduce e-waste; it will increase it massively when everyone throws away their lighting cables and "has" to buy new accessories like headphones, keyboards, mice, and touchpads so that everything uses USB-C...
No one is throwing them away until they have new devices. The vast majority of users including corporations using Apple devices do not replace devices on the same schedule as enthusiasts and professionals do. Most of them run them into the ground before replacing them.
 
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IMHO government mandates on ports will only stifle innovation. Why would anyone try to make something better than a USB-C when they have a massive hill to climb in order for it to be implemented.
The old "stifles innovation" argument rarely produces any empirical evidence to validate that claim. It is usually made because someone/company just wants to keep doing something the way they have because at the moment they see more money in doing it that way.

In this case, if anything, a mandate will push innovation forward.

Government has a role to play and this kind of decision is within keeping of their proper regulatory role that does not interfere with free market trading.

Cars would still be death traps. They are a perfect example of regulatory authorities forcing innovation. Increased efficiencies in appliances and electrical devices get added to that list. Although they will soon be history, combustion engines are another example. Do you think you would be able to buy a car that gets 30-35 mpg without innovation forced on auto manufacturers?
 
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It's called being a standard. When everything uses it, if there is a need to change it, it will change, otherwise we don't need 10 different connectors for devices.

When was the last time the AC outlet in your home was upgraded to something different? Aren't you happy there aren't 10 different types of residential AC outlets in your country?

I might not want 10 different types of residential plugs, but i also don’t like that we are stuck using a lower power standard than most of the world. So much for it being a “standard”. Japan and the americas using one “standard”, and the vast majority of the world using a second “standard”.

I would kill for my plug in induction burners and water kettles to be able to heat/cook as quickly as the rest of the worlds power standard allows for.
 
I don’t understand any of this. “Everyone else switched to USB C. Since Apple uses Lightening, they are a monopoly. Let’s pass a law to force the monopoly to be like everyone else.”

How does that make rational sense?

Also, (relatively) no one is forced to use Apple Lightening. We have a choice. Why eliminate our choices, under color of law?

I want USB C too. I just can’t wrap my mind around supporting the idea of using the state to force a company that I am completely free to not do business with to give me what I want.
 
IMHO government mandates on ports will only stifle innovation. Why would anyone try to make something better than a USB-C when they have a massive hill to climb in order for it to be implemented.
Or it could push companies to make wireless better so they don't have to include a port at all. This mindset is terrible thinking.
 
I’ve never seen one of those hydra cables that I’d be willing to plug into my expensive devices.

NK. I used them in the car out of desperation. I usually needed something to charge lights for biking, the phone, headphones, a GPS unit, bike computer, and lugging all those cables would be a PITA. They 'worked', until the lightning burned out. I tossed a bunch in the 'donation box'. Might be good for someone now who doesn't need Lightning.
 
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