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I really don’t care which one they chose, I just want to carry one cable. And one MagSafe duo. If they are all usb c, that’s fine with me. Same with lightning.

Same. If the MagSafe Duo was USB-C and supported fast charging for the watch I'd pick one up for travel straight away.
 
The UK is not the EU, in fact they also exited the European Union, so you picked the worst example.

Also, Apple is using already USB-C in (some of their) other devices, so it's not like there is not any precedent here.

Other devices are not charged/plugged in multiple times daily.
 
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Part of me wonders if AirPods might just go to wireless charging only.
It could but what would be the advantage over just switching to USB-C?

For the phone there are arguments that USB-C is slightly taller than Ligntening so it might be hard to package or that having any port compromises waterproofness. Neither of those things is really relevant to the Airpods case.
 
Problem with any ports they break. especially lighting cables etc. I am no longer using lighting cables and using MagSafe from now on with my iPhone.Years of iPad lighting ports breaking ( before they use USB c.). I had it with cables.
 
I think there was a push many years ago to get everything on to micro USB. What a mess it would be now if that were the case.

While I'm all for market pressure pushing Apple to USB-C, which I think they should have done years ago, I don't see forcing the standard to go well. What'll happen in 10 years when USB is too slow for data and can't carry enough power? Your portable device has to have a second port on it? Where are you going to stick a second port on a phone?

I think this EU law will push everyone, especially Apple, towards wireless everything. Now everyone will have to buy or collect new wireless charging gadgets, making the new law redundant or useless.

Legislation on this is a bad idea, and that's a liberal saying that.
Um yeah that’s exactly what liberals want, less legislation. Too bad defunding social stability for the poor hasn’t worked out too well in the USA.

Regardless as an EU citizen I’m happy this is happening and wish they’d push it on to more devices like shavers, and start forcing companies to make laptop batteries user removable again.
 
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Great idea except for the tens, if not hundreds, of million vehicles that are equipped with wired CarPlay. So if I get a new iPhone I would lose CarPlay on my vehicle. Guess I won't be buying a new iPhone any time in the foreseeable future and I'm sure as hell not buying new car.
I’m sure Apple with have a dongle for that
 
I’m not keen on this wireless-only charging future that gets bandied about. I use wireless charging occasionally but it’s just not fast enough for my day-to-day use. Especially given I have a 13 Mini and we all know the battery life isn’t the best on those.
 
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Obviously.

My point is that under a government mandate to use port-X no single company will put any effort into making something unique, different and better because the chance they will get it accepted as the new mandate is a daunting task with only a tiny chance for return on investment. Thus innovation is stifled.

Furthermore, when has 1 size fits all ever worked out well?
Good luck with your unique, different, better plug
 
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IMHO government mandates on ports will only stifle innovation. Why would anyone try to make something better than a USB-C when they have a massive hill to climb in order for it to be implemented.
Because they will, that's how progress works.
 
For everyone complaining about government having no right to mandate standards, should there be 2-3 different petrol (gas) pump sizes every time you want to fill up your car?
 
IMHO government mandates on ports will only stifle innovation. Why would anyone try to make something better than a USB-C when they have a massive hill to climb in order for it to be implemented.
So why has Apple been touring an obsolete lightning on iPhones when they have it on their iPads and Macs?

Apple could “innovate” by implementing the superior USB-C on the iphone years ago without the need for government regulations and interventions….

oh that’s right because Apple makes


$BILLIONS licensing and selling an obsolete port.
 
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Because they will, that's how progress works.
If anything, MONOPOLIES are what stifles innovation as corporations would have incentive to innovate and continue to rip off consumers.

We ALL know Apple would‘ve been happy to continue to license their lightning for several more years if EU and it’s market finally had enough.


what I want to see next is to end Apple’s MONOPOLY App Store on iOS/iPadOS and give users actual freedom to choose in the digital market space.
 
It's a matter of principle. Apple should not kowtow to governmental tyranny such as this.


And it's perfectly within the realm of Apple to pack up its toys and go home.

Sure thing, a stick traded company is going to leave one of its key markets because you fail to understand that enforcing standards for all is a thing that can be done. They could also decide to close shop worldwide, an equally likely scenario.
 
I just got a FedEx with an early development iPhone 15 and it has "wireless only" charging but there is also an ugly rubber plug covering a USB-C port on the bottom. There was also a note from a very angry Steve Jobs, which I can't reprint here.

That is one hell of wireless only if there’s a port at the bottom.
 
I would rather replace an external 10 dollar cable than a thousand dollar phone when the internal port connector fails.
We have almost five years of USB-C on iPads and almost seven years of USB-C on Macs and there really hasn't been a rash of port failures. Especially not over the much shorter time span that most people keep their phones.
 
Other devices are not charged/plugged in multiple times daily.
I have an XR with an old battery and at most I plug it in twice a day.

I would argue that a 2016 MBP has been plugged/unplugged more times over its life span than a two year old phone, but where is the #macportfailure hashtag?
 
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It was a strong suggestion, not a regulation/requirement.

Apple has slowly been moving towards usbc. They were clearly headed there with or without this law.
Very slowly when it comes to iphones.

Lightning was Apples response to the original usbc port mess.

No it wasn't, Lightning was launched before the publishing of the USB-C spec
And there's no "USB-C port mess".

And while I fine with usbc, it’s not perfect particularly on the cable side.

Cables are fine. As good as cables can be.


Early on people were frying their phones with cables.
Not true. I had throughout the years many phones with USB-C ports(including budget phones) and newer fried any phones no matter which cable I used to charge them and I also have a lot or 3rd party cables. I don't even see how that would be possible when any phones has overload protection. Even a bad cable would have no effect on the phone, the only way to fry it is through a short-circuit and that wouldn't be the fault of the cable.

And still today it’s hard to know what a particular usbc cable supports.
Well it's not really relevant anyway taking in consideration that the subject is: iphones.
If you want a USB-C cable that supports every USB spec and every USB-C capability you can just buy the most expensive Thunderbolt 4 cable you can find(Apple sells one for 129$) and that should be more than enough but it would be irrelevant for iphones anyway as a 3$ 3rd party USB-C cable is enough to max the transfer or charging speed of any iphone. Oh and the 3$ cable I'm talking about is USB 3.0, its actually beyond the USB 2.0 spec of current iphones.
 
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Same. If the MagSafe Duo was USB-C and supported fast charging for the watch I'd pick one up for travel straight away.
That's 100% me. I have 2 of the magsafe duos for the family for travel and that's the only time we use them. They are nice, but would be great to have USB C and fast charging as my wife and I upgraded from AW4 to Series 7 last year. That fast charging is nice, especially when you sleep with your watch on every night.
 
I don’t think they will anymore. At least not yet. I think that was the plan before the law. They’ll have USB-C on the iPhone until they can ditch the port completely.
There report recently on the business aspect that apple; would and is dev a different charging system To bypass the EU rules. They talked about no longer supporting charging ports ( to what extent not known ). I rather just use MagSafe charging systems than lighting cables. I do use QI charging now. But breaking ports on iPhones and ipads and cables are costly to the user.
 
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