Some small corrections: 3D touch aka Force touch was available in Android dating back to 2009.
Arguably, there was a line of Sony Vaio laptops back in the early 2000s that were very sleek and thinner than Macbooks at the time.
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Some small corrections: 3D touch aka Force touch was available in Android dating back to 2009.
Arguably, there was a line of Sony Vaio laptops back in the early 2000s that were very sleek and thinner than Macbooks at the time.
An iPhone without any port will be a disaster if introduced in next 5-7 years. Wireless ha not completely taken over wired yet. You can't get a good quality wireless headphone under $150. At the same time, a $50 wired headphone will sound much better than that wireless crap.
Also how about wireless charging and using the phone at simultaneously? How are we suppose to do that? Batteries will be never enough as apps/games are getting hungrier day by day. If we play games, Phone does not last even few hours. Then we have issue with data transfer. Transfer over wireless is very slow when we are considering GBs of data.
There are many challenges to overcome if we want to go fully wireless. Hopefully they will be resolved in 10+ years.
Also how about wireless charging and using the phone at simultaneously? How are we suppose to do that? Batteries will be never enough as apps/games are getting hungrier day by day. If we play games, Phone does not last even few hours. Then we have issue with data transfer. Transfer over wireless is very slow when we are considering GBs of data.
There are many challenges to overcome if we want to go fully wireless. Hopefully they will be resolved in 10+ years.
I guess they didn't teach in your school how many GB fit on a floppy disk or CD Rom.
Apple was the first to make iOS and the modern smartphone, period. Android at its core is still a copied product.It's sad that you choose to live in denial like that. Apple was not the first. Not really the first to anything for that matter, they are usually dead last place. But hey, I won't rain on your parade of being closed minded/wrong. Let me guess, Apple was the first to make notifications as well? Lol
Everything I said is true. No one cares if some no name Android phone didn’t have a headphone jack. Apple led the change because they own the market.
Apple’s strategy is working and they are the best company in the world. 2X the profit of the second most profitable. Apple just keeps winning.
It's sad that you choose to live in denial like that. Apple was not the first. Not really the first to anything for that matter, they are usually dead last place. But hey, I won't rain on your parade of being closed minded/wrong. Let me guess, Apple was the first to make notifications as well? Lol
Apple usually isn’t the first, but they end up being the ones to define the industry trend moving forward because of their clout and influence.
The first modern smartphone I know of to remove the headphone jack would be the Oppo R5. Would you say that today’s phone companies are removing their headphone jacks because Oppo did it first, or because Apple did it and everyone saw that they were getting away with it?
Same for the notch. True, the essential phone had it first but again, do you really think smartphone companies got the “courage” to adopt the notch from Essential or from Apple?
Exactly. Technically first and leading the industry aren’t the same.
Apple wasn’t the first for facial recognition, but they led that too with SECURE facial recognition.
Same with the notch. No one was copying Essential, lol.
You credit Apple too much. Smartphone vendors are able to get rid of headphone jack not because of Apple "courage" but because of the progress in BT, silicon, battery and wireless charging tech. Apple is benefiting from this progress (which BTW was achieved thanks to other companies, not Apple) just like other companies do. Being a regular MR reader you might think that the World rotates around Apple but it does not.
Its because lightning is Proprietary, so Apple can profit. Im sure Apple would have done the same with the MacBook line if they could get away with it.
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Unless you actually want a phone that’s four times larger then, yes. Yes it is too much too ask.
A very common retort to this is - you can leave in the headphone jack and still have better wireless tech. The two aren’t mutually exclusive.
And they have a point. If Apple had not taken the first step of removing the headphone jack, I seriously doubt any other company would have dared to do so for fear of consumer backlash. Even Oppo tried this with just one of their phone models, rather than unilaterally across their entire phone line.
Technology made it technically feasible, but Apple made it socially acceptable, hip even to not have the jack. There's a difference between being able to do something, and having the balls to actually go through with it. Anyone can do #1, not many can do both #1 and #2 and not only get away with it, but also prosper as a result.
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You only think you want more battery life...what you really want is a thinner phone! Apple could give you more battery life, but aren't you much happier when they reduce the thickness by 0.1mm??
Nice strawman. More battery life is a reasonable ask, “multiple days of heavy usage” is a fantasy at this stage in anything that performs better than a 3GS or is smaller than a house brick but HURR DURR JONY WANTS IT THIN, right?
Yeah, I think we’re more likely to see USB-C take over and remain around for a good number of years. As for people concerned about charging at the airport or wherever, I guess wireless charging pads would replace the USB ports if the iPhone ever does go port-less.
Of course. And next: Apple will be skipping the screen in iPhone 12.
Why ? Because screens are expensive, fragile, complicated to produce. They make phones thicker.
And the backside is glass already - so enough repairs coming in.
Especially with 3DTouch, vendors have to take the **** for iPads that don’t support it. Which is entirely their customers fault.
For those still complaining: you’re not using a floppydisk on your phone either, are you ?
The NoScreen™ iPhone 12 will automatically find the nearest TV, flatscreen, billboard or Android phone from some legacy competitor still making screens and use that as a display.
After all it is Samsung’s own fault that they’ve got the best screens in the world - and they’re too expensive - another concept stolen from Apple.
To celebrate the savings for the environment, all iPhones will become $100 more expensive*
Ohh, Joni is such a genius...
* But Tim will donate $0.10/device to some human rights fund (and spend $15 on PR to publicize that)
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Just pull down the control and put in do not disturb. At night it switches on automatically by my configuration. Don’t do it that often actively. Personally I find it more annoying when inadvertedly the switch changes while putting or taking it out of my pocket ...
But USB-C would be fine for an iPhone, whose power demands are much lower than a 15" MBP with a discrete GPU. But as said previously in this thread, adopting a standard connector for the iPhone would mean they don't get licensing revenue from any and every peripheral that wants to connect to the phone. In addition to which it would mean that it would be easy to make docks, headphones etc that work with other brands as well as iOS devices. So lower revenue and no lock-in, not a snowflake's chance that Apple would ever do that.
As for the original story, if Apple gave this more than 30 seconds thought their iPhone team have lost my respect.
You guys really can't be that dense can you? @falainber pretty much summed up my thoughts. Apple is NOT the reason that the headphone jack is being removed, not was it the first to do so, nor first to have a notch. I do find it odd that you two actually believe this. But then again being a MR regular, I don't find it so far-fetched, especially after seeing how entrenched you two are into believing everything that Apple says.
My point is that Apple is not the first to do many things that you guys claim. And for the millionth time, who cares about finances. (Pretty sure you have heard me say this at least a million times). There is no need to keep defending a company that doesn't care about you as individuals. Do you think Apple is going to give you a discount for constantly saying how profitable they are? If anything, it just means that they are milking their sheep.
None of that exists yet. Provide the user with a complete wireless solution for the use cases currently well supported by wire rather than leaving them to figure out the details to make it work, like what happened with the recent MacBook and USB-C ports. That is not Apple to me.
I’m against this new attitude of the company, design with even more accent on visuals and less on usability.
Removing the headphone jack was 100% beneficial for Apple while the costumers got 0 benefits.
That's the truth.
Well.
I don't really mind so much that Wireless charging is slower. I also see me using it when Apple releases their PowerPad. But I'm just asking myself if I really want another source in my house that will emit a magnetic field.
Being on all the time if I don't go through the trouble of un-plugging it if I don't use it. I'd never put one of those next to my bed for example. Maybe I just have wrong facts, but this is how it is.
Having and loving also AirPods I tried to find out more about the Power they use and the EMF they create. And now I'm so confused, that I changed my habit of use for them and use wired headphones listening to music while working.
I don't really mind so much that Wireless charging is slower. I also see me using it when Apple releases their PowerPad. But I'm just asking myself if I really want another source in my house that will emit a magnetic field.
Being on all the time if I don't go through the trouble of un-plugging it if I don't use it. I'd never put one of those next to my bed for example. Maybe I just have wrong facts, but this is how it is.
Having and loving also AirPods I tried to find out more about the Power they use and the EMF they create. And now I'm so confused, that I changed my habit of use for them and use wired headphones listening to music while working.
I don't think the regular joe did give a flying monkey about the 3.5mm jack (I mean the super majority of people, the ones who are not obsessed with tech rumors and news and media of course, how else would they get the people to click their garbage) And exactly what I predicted it would happen, did happen. It did help to push the wireless audio even further. I see people with Airpods everywhere. And I don't know a single one who doesn't love the AirPods. Best thing of all, I will never ever have to deal with stupid tangling wires again.
Thumps up to Apple again for doing their own thing and not listening to what not visionary people say.