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Do we think they will release an Intel version? It makes sense for the professional market I suppose.
There are rumors that Apple will release a refreshed Mac Pro with newer Xeon chips. The Mac Pro will probably be the last model transitioned to Apple silicon. The same with the Power Mac, I believe it was the last model that was transitioned from PPC to Intel.
 
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If you have an Intel Mac, and have some free disk space, it's pretty straightforward to install Linux. rEFInd is a decent boot manager - I use it on my 2015 MacBook Pro, and triple-boot Mojave, Big Sur, and Linux Mint (Mint's on its own partition; the other two are separate logical volumes sharing the same partition).

We use CentOS at work (although now restandardizing on AlmaLinux), but Mint is more user friendly for a desktop system IMHO.

Note that macOS updates reset the boot partition, so you find yourself having to reinstall rEFInd somewhat regularly... but that's not difficult.
Thank you! I’m going to check it out. Most of my gear is older so should be a non issue other than my abilities.
 
Awfully quiet about the bigger iMac. The M1 iMac looks nice, but can’t replace my 27” iMac with that.
Yup.That's the computer I'm waiting for. The 2013 MP is starting to slow down with certain tasks. Still runs great, but I do notice a huge difference in a few exact same tasks on my 2018 MBP.

Time to move to these M1 chips.

Cheers,
Brian
 
Anyone else waiting on baited breath for the new M1x(M2) MBPs? You'd think they would have disclosed them already given it's almost back to school (MBPs usually disclosed in June in time for back to school). But now availability is November, maybe in time for Christmas?

It would be worth it to upgrade just to get rid of that damn Touch Bar. I can't wait to get my function keys back. The other thing I'm hoping for is the M1x/ M2 to keep the unit cool enough I can do some screen recordings without the fans kicking on (showing up in my voice recordings). This doesn't happen on my M1 Mac mini.
 
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But currently it is still the same architecture but probably with just a few more graphics cores. If it’s still called M1”something” then I’d expect the same limitations and features. That’s my base level of expectations.

They can always shatter my expectations, of course.
[and @Westside guy]

Ppl that have much better knowledge than I do in these forums have said that there isn't something "inherent" in the M1 architecture that necessitates 16gb of unified memory limit. That an "M1x" could easily still borrow the "M1" core CPU/GPU architecture, but pair it with additional thunderbolt controllers and memory capabilities.

I agree with @Tagbert that I think there is zero chance, whether it's an "M1X" or an "M2", that the 14 and 16" MBPs won't be able to have >16gb of unified memory (hopefully up to 64gb, maybe surprises some folks to the downside and maxes out at 32gb), output to more than 2 displays, and have the full-lane bandwidth of 4 Thunderbolt / USB-4 ports (eg. all rumors around 3 TB ports + HDMI + SDcard).
 
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I was thinking it would be nice if they focused on an M1X Mac Pro Mini + 27-30" Apple Display, instead of a large iMac/Pro this time around.
I have a feeling that Apple will update the mini to M1x/M2x about the same time that they bring out the larger iMacs with those chips. Hopefully no later than Q1.
 
I don't expect a 27 replacement iMac this year, maybe in the spring but Apple said its a 2 year transition so maybe not til H2 22 ... which will be fine for me, still enjoying my 2017 iMac :)

Agreed. and I would not care if Apple offered a 27" iMac that was 100x more powerful than my 2020, I wouldn't give up my Boot Camp. Too many things not working in Parallels or Crossover. By too many things I mean Planet Zoo. :D
 
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I put all expenses for new Apple hardware on hold. Self imposed „Apple Ban“. I will wait until there is more clarity about the new child protection features. In the meantime I will install Ubuntu Budgie on my old MBP10,1. And try CalyxOS on a Pixel Phone. Maybe it’s time for more free software to protect my personal freedom.
More clarity over the feature?

I can understand why people are staunchly opposed, in favour, or somewhere in the middle, but one thing I don’t think Apple can be accused of is being unclear about the feature and how it works.

They bungled the announcement for all sorts of reasons. But they’ve been nothing but transparent about the technical implementation of the feature.
 
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I don’t think there will ever be an M1X given the timing. I think Apple will unveil the M2 and the M2X. Else they would be selling pro laptops with the M1X at the same time they are selling MacBook Air with an M2.
I disagree. What will make the X models attractive is core count (for multi threaded applications) and greater RAM. That’s what pro users care about.

Consider the Mac Pro today. The more powerful processors run at far slower clock speeds, but that doesn’t matter because it’s not the clock speed that provides the benefit to pro apps. It’s being able to thread across multiple cores.

The M2 will likely be a speed bump, but will not boast 20+ cores and will likely not go above 16GB RAM. Non-X models will continue to be for the masses.

If Apple went with M2 and M2X naming for the next release, what happens when the M3 is ready and the M3X is not? They’re never going to get all their Macs, pro and non-pro, in a perfectly synced release cycle.
 
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I disagree. What will make the X models attractive is core count (for multi threaded applications) and greater RAM. That’s what pro users care about.

Consider the Mac Pro today. The more powerful processors run at far slower clock speeds, but that doesn’t matter because it’s not the clock speed that provides the benefit to pro apps. It’s being able to thread across multiple cores.

The M2 will likely be a speed bump, but will not boast 20+ cores and will likely not go above 16GB RAM. Non-X models will continue to be for the masses.

If Apple went with M2 and M2X naming for the next release, what happens when the M3 is ready and the M3X is not? They’re never going to get all their Macs, pro and non-pro, in a perfectly synced release cycle.
I still don't know how much difference adding 4 performance cores will do. Will have to see after benchmarks are run.
 
I put all expenses for new Apple hardware on hold. Self imposed „Apple Ban“. I will wait until there is more clarity about the new child protection features. In the meantime I will install Ubuntu Budgie on my old MBP10,1. And try CalyxOS on a Pixel Phone. Maybe it’s time for more free software to protect my personal freedom.
I'm considering an Apple ban over #R2R and by extension the seriously gauging apple pricing for RAM and internal SSDs and lack of DYI/3rd party upgrade path for RAM and SSDs (and no eGPUs but hopefully that's just taking time to eventuate under AS).

pls dont @ me saying it's all on an integrated silicon fr performance reasons, they can't d otherwise. M1 is several chips under one cover and there are choices being made here. For all the gains of integrated GPU, on an M1 Mac mini with a 4K display hooked up it makes a big dint on the RAM use in the standard 8 GB RAM model (16 GB is a custom build you'll wait up to 3 weeks for) and when I have a lot of tabs open in safari or any other browser it can freeze up worse than even my 2015 MBP for some reason (multi-threading not optimised yet?). Immediatelyprior to AS announcement I was getting ready to go to the dark side + Linux after using Apple since starting with the Apple ][e and converting countless Windows users to the Apple way. I hate the move towards being a luxe consumer goods company and not an affordable computing company that values excellence in design.

What's the problem with new "child protection features"?
 
I really like the all-in-one package you get with the iMac. But yeah, if they take much longer I might have to go that route.
with USB C it's only one cable from mini CPU box to 4K screen. For me it's preferable, more future proofing and I can get a better 27" 4K HDR display for the same money.
 
Get on with it.

Considering the fluff in most of the recent events they could fit this into one presentation.

They need to go back to Jobs precision in presentations. Of late, it’s been so long and dull it would send anyone to sleep.
yep, keynotes have become like the season eight of some bloated tv drama. I get the desire for inclusion and diversity, but I don't need two hours of minor feature update explainers in technicolour detail; each presenter getting their 20 minutes of recognition.
 
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Do we think they will release an Intel version? It makes sense for the professional market I suppose.
no chance, the M1 performance has set expectations extremely high for the MBP 16" and Mac Pro. Intel can't cut it on the performance/price ratio now (just look at the benchmarks for M1 mini vs intel mini at higher cost).

I just hope the entry models aren't 8 GB with 256 GB SSD and $1k-$3k more for usable specs in terms of RAM and internal SSD.
 
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