History is rhyming. I remind you about the 2014 Mac mini which stayed in the lineup until the fall of 2018.
Be grateful if it is only two and a half years.
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Gurman: Apple Planning No New Mac Releases For Remainder of 2022
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Be grateful if it is only two and a half years.
As I imagine, a considerable amount of time needed to actually start production of a CPU/GPU/SoC included item for consumers after a factory is able to produce the needed chips. So no, at least early 2023 Macs won't include 3nm SoCs.
This should be setting off alarm bells among the analysts over Apple's decision to move Mac entirely over to Apple Silicon. Sure, the M1 showed great performance numbers, but the bigger problem—or so was implied by Apple—with Intel's chips was evolution cadence: they were slow in delivering new, faster chips. Well… not sure what should then be said about Apple Silicon! Intel is not sitting still. AMD is not sitting still. Both have ramped up power and efficiency, although, no, still not to M1/M2 points, but another generation and they'll be there. Meanwhile, Apple has been pulling shenanigans like single-channel SSD.
This isn't a production problem on the chassis side, clearly evidenced by the fact that the rumors aren't saying the chassis are going to change on MBP and mini and Apple is selling those now still with M1 chips… it is a design/production problem on the Apple Silicon design front. And that is highly troubling, or should be, for watchers of such things. It completely undercuts Apple's entire "narrative"/reasons for shifting entirely to their own chip production.
(For example: if 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pros still existed with 11th/12th-gen Intel processors, they'd be highly competitive in the PC marketplace and selling like crazy, even IF they weren't as fast as the Apple Silicon counterparts. And a 12th gen Intel mini would actually be worth the asking price of the 2018 Intel 8th gen mini Apple is spitefully still selling; the resources needed to do the engineering to go between an 8th gen and a 12th gen Intel board should be "trivial"… as evidenced by all the crap PC manus figured it out, yearly.)
This isn't a production problem on the chassis side, clearly evidenced by the fact that the rumors aren't saying the chassis are going to change on MBP and mini and Apple is selling those now still with M1 chips… it is a design/production problem on the Apple Silicon design front. And that is highly troubling, or should be, for watchers of such things. It completely undercuts Apple's entire "narrative"/reasons for shifting entirely to their own chip production.
(For example: if 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pros still existed with 11th/12th-gen Intel processors, they'd be highly competitive in the PC marketplace and selling like crazy, even IF they weren't as fast as the Apple Silicon counterparts. And a 12th gen Intel mini would actually be worth the asking price of the 2018 Intel 8th gen mini Apple is spitefully still selling; the resources needed to do the engineering to go between an 8th gen and a 12th gen Intel board should be "trivial"… as evidenced by all the crap PC manus figured it out, yearly.)
not surprised. does introduce some interesting possibilities though. The Mac Studio will have been out in a year in March. And no Mac Pro at all yet. We could very well see Apple refresh their most powerful hardware first, then follow up with the less-powerful stuff.
The mini could end up being completely gone as we know it today - merged into the Studio line as a lower-end model. There isn’t a ton of difference between them now.
The mini could end up being completely gone as we know it today - merged into the Studio line as a lower-end model. There isn’t a ton of difference between them now.
Try four years, the amount of time between the 2014 and 2018 Mac mini.
October 16, 2014
October 30, 2018
My M1 Max BP is also a marvel. I have no need for an upgrade anytime soon and I’m also selfishly a little glad that there won’t be a new one until next year. 😉😌
It would be weird to release the M2 on 5nm and then the M2 pro/max on 3nm.
How anyone believes this BS artist i will never know, one min it’s apple releasing new macs this year, then its changed, Gurman is a Hack and Attention seeking rat.
So he is now backtracking in what he said literally a week or two ago? And now saying the complete opposite. No M2 MacBook Pro or Mac Mini this year is just sad if it's true.
The cheapest Mac laptops and iPad Pro are Apples most advanced devices 😂.
Still he was correct on the press release of the new devices.
The cheapest Mac laptops and iPad Pro are Apples most advanced devices 😂.
Still he was correct on the press release of the new devices.
Disappointed- was hoping for an updated M2 iMac or Mac Mini
I don't believe any of these journalists or whatever they are these days. But I'm interested in how he became a rat.
How much better is the m2 really going to be in a pro.. looks like it’s going to be a minor upgrade
No it won't, Apple aren't going to change the die size for the same class chip. It is too dot prohibitive to do that. It'll be the same due size for all M2 chips, the same size for all M3 chips etc.
Reports are Apple CEO Tim Cook states...
Next Day Mark Gurmen 'predicts' based on analysis....
Funny, for a ”useless” device, I see them practically everywhere while traveling. Several YouTubers make a nice living using the iPad Pro as their primary machine. And let’s not even talk about visual artists.
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The M* names are just marketing. There is no reason that Apple can’t have future M2s on TSMC N3. By the same token, there is no reason that Apple can’t skip M2 Pro/Max/Ultra and go straight to M3.
I guess we now know Apple was BSing when it gave this as an excuse to the markets to scrap Intel processors. They should be on M2 across the board by now with every device bar the iPhone having it.
Yep. This is the inevitable outcome of the supremely idiotic policy that sent nearly all of the world's manufacturing to China. A small group of Western elites were making too much money from it to stop it so here we are.
It won't happen, it's a model designation not marketing. The only chips on 3nm if it happens at all will be M3.
And if you read your post, it contradicts itself between the first and second sentences.
Intel was on 14 nm for 6 years. Apple seems to be on an 18 month cadence which is perfectly inline with traditional node shrinks.
Did you see the quarterly results just announced? Mac sales are up while every other PC maker is down. Damned impressive for a “niche” product!