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And sadly there will be people who buy it because there is an Apple logo on it… not that it is superior quality or workmanship. If you want one of these watches now, just get the cheapest series 7 and dress it up in one of the many rugged cases/straps that are available to you… which by the way covers almost all of the watches exterior… no one seems to be interested in value for $ anymore - or maybe its just not being taught in our education system… basic economics…


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That's ugly though IMO, let's see if Apple manages to make it rugged while not looking so rugged.
 
I’m just not sure you understand Marxist theory that well.

A $649 iPhone 5 that was the only choice in 2012 (with the choice of a year old iPhone 4s at $549) seemed like an extremely fair deal and nothing to get angsty over. Has Apple shifted to sell more to only the bourgeoisie since then? (No, they are widening the net, e.g. iphone SE.) Were they not selling luxury back then as well? (yes they were.)

Apple is doing a bad job at selling us why $999 for an iPhone is worth it, as it will be for a $999 watch; and relegating subpar materials and features and hardware to the previously “top of the line” price point. The $649 best and only new iPhone in 2012 had the marketing and the Jobs keynote behind it to convince us of the value.

But thanks to freedom and capitalism, I’m very happy for the elites to take their boatloads of foolish spending with them to the Apple store to boost the stock price and bring home for themselves some Pro Wheels and Pro Monitor stands.
This is it. None of the products they have currently justify the price point they sell at.

I just can’t see where they are pulling these price points from. The technology inside etc doesn’t add up to what they’re priced at. Even the Apple Silicon performance is overhyped compared to real world performance. It still can’t beat Nvidia GPU’s,

I’ve said previously that before paying extra for Apple products felt like you were actually getting something worthwhile. Now you feel ripped off like a mug because the products just aren’t worth it.

iPhone X back in 2017 was the turning point for Apple pushing higher and higher prices. There was no justification for increasing the price by £400 from the previous iPhone 7 series. The shift to OLED and Face ID were the only new features but by then OLED had already been on the market for about a decade and Face ID technology was taken from the Xbox Kinect which again had been in the market for a number of years.

The iPhone is the only product I really stick with from Apple because it is still the best phone and everyone I know uses it so it’s simple to connect with others. For my computing needs I would much rather spend my £4000 on a high spec PC/laptop these days. For the same price I get specs that blow anything Apple offers out of the water.
 
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Ok Man thanks for the analysis. Apple’s business success is without peer.. Apple doesn’t have to tell you “why” they price as they do. You may seek other alternatives. I want to apologize to this forum and those of lesser economic means for being just fine with Apple’s suggested $3000 pricing for the coming Mixed Reality headsets and the $1000 Apple Watch “Pro”. I regret having made enough money to purchase these devices of wretched excess. To atone for being affluent, I am going launch a Go Fund Me campaign to buy Apple Watch “Pros” for the poor. (And write it off of course). Apple’s cruelty in not pricing for the Bourgeoisie should be called out!— Life is unfair. As it should be!

Pro Wheels and Pro Monitor Stands for the Elites!
Not everyone who has an issue with Apples pricing is poor. You sound like a tool.
 
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For that price, it better have emergency satellite communication for initiating a rescue. That could work for the Extreme Sports market.
 
I been an owner of the iphone since the original 2g version and to this date I have never own nor wanted an apple watch. Never understood the whole idea of it. I much prefer a simple Swiss watch than something I need to worry about charging.
I bought one a few years ago because sometimes I didn’t want to take my phone around. I just wanted to be able to make/receive calls, messages, check basic social posts, maps, listen to some tunes etc. It wasn’t up to speed with me so I let it go after skating down a hill and falling off at 60 miles an hour. It hurt and the watch smashed. So I’ve been waiting for one that can perform without having to always take my phone everywhere with me. Maybe this is it..
 
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I have had 3 different Apple Watches, and I really like them, however what got me to buy a 2500$ Garmin Toolwatch was the 5 days battery time - and a much much better dashboard both on phone and online.
(and also that it auto records my bike-ride)

TBH I would gladly pay 2500$ for a new apple smartwatch if it had
1) A Real Watch design - jewelry for men.
2) Better battery life, like a week (seriously what good is sleep tracking when you have to charge every night)
3) Auto recognition of activities - and subsequent integration of all data into a universe as good as Garmin holds (Seriously the Health app SUCKS)
 
Ok Man thanks for the analysis. Apple’s business success is without peer.. Apple doesn’t have to tell you “why” they price as they do. You may seek other alternatives. I want to apologize to this forum and those of lesser economic means for being just fine with Apple’s suggested $3000 pricing for the coming Mixed Reality headsets and the $1000 Apple Watch “Pro”. I regret having made enough money to purchase these devices of wretched excess. To atone for being affluent, I am going launch a Go Fund Me campaign to buy Apple Watch “Pros” for the poor. (And write it off of course). Apple’s cruelty in not pricing for the Bourgeoisie should be called out!— Life is unfair. As it should be!

Pro Wheels and Pro Monitor Stands for the Elites!
Yes, do please buy me an Apple Watch Pro. That would be really awesome. 🤣

Your big heart and kindness will be memorialized on a plaque in a McDonalds of your choice in the state of New Jersey.
 
It's life changing that you can do that stuff from your wrist and not spend a few seconds pulling out your phone?
It’s more convenient for sure. And all the features combined are life changing.
 
I been an owner of the iphone since the original 2g version and to this date I have never own nor wanted an apple watch. Never understood the whole idea of it. I much prefer a simple Swiss watch than something I need to worry about charging.
I use it as a health appliance. I felt like you when the watch was launched, but when the ECG monitor and other health monitors were mature in Watch 5, I decided to get one, and it's everything I expected it to be. When it adds blood sugar, temperature and even blood pressure, I'll buy a new one.
 
It was a joke tough guy

there are so many pretend marketing experts, hardware design Savants one must offer their view succinctly with as few words as possible. I burst out laughing yesterday when I read that Magic Leap is releasing it’s AR headset in September at a price point of $3299!! Many MacRumors posters have told us time and again that $3000 price points for Mixed reality headsets are “insane” and will “Never happen”. These are not sophisticated observers mind you. I’ll be issuing additional “Tough Guy” responses to the inevitable outrage that will soon drench this site. The good news is, Apple/Magic Leap are NOT developing these products for the mass market. — I urge those who can’t afford Magic Leap and Apple’s coming products to get 2nd jobs or move to low end devices.. What matters is participating in the new space!
 
Not everyone who has an issue with Apples pricing is poor. You sound like a tool.
Yes— that is true. These forum discussions often become cluttered by those who declare Apple is Greedy and rants over price bore me. I have suggested elsewhere that MacRumors create a closed forum restricted to high-net worth consumers as a sanctuary from the indignation of the price resentful crowd. — A recent poll in the USA said that most Americans consider individuals with a Net Worth minimum of 2.5- 3 Million dollars is considered “wealthy”. I would add in a Credit score rating 750+ as well for good measure. (Credit scores are reliable indicators of behavior). What say you UK-Addict? That proposal work for you? Cheers!
 
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I have suggested elsewhere that MacRumors create a closed forum restricted to high-net worth consumers as a sanctuary from the indignation of the price resentful crowd. — A recent poll in the USA said that most Americans consider individuals with a Net Worth minimum of 2.5- 3 Million dollars is considered “wealthy”. I would add in a Credit score rating 750+ as well for good measure. (Credit scores are reliable indicators of behavior). What say you UK-Addict? That proposal work for you?
If you're so wealthy why are you on this forum talking to poors like us?
 
$1000 is simply too much. Hopefully it does not happen.
Why do you “hope” that Apple does not release a Watch that costs $1000 or more? Do you also hope that other product manufacturers only release devices that are sub $1000? I for one want to see Apple release more high end products with elegant style and elite feature sets. there is this ridiculous idea that Apple should develop “Everyman” devices! Laughs. The Mass Market is addressed by Samsung, Fit Bit and others. Those who cannot afford a $1000+ Smart Watch have many other options. Samsung and Fitbit make products in the sub $200 range. Try them!
 
Why do you “hope” that Apple does not release a Watch that costs $1000 or more? Do you also hope that other product manufacturers only release devices that are sub $1000? I for one want to see Apple release more high end products with elegant style and elite feature sets. there is this ridiculous idea that Apple should develop “Everyman” devices! Laughs. The Mass Market is addressed by Samsung, Fit Bit and others. Those who cannot afford a $1000+ Smart Watch have many other options. Samsung and Fitbit make products in the sub $200 range. Try them!
not like people NEED to buy this pro option.

the 399 series 8 will still likely be around that price point for basically same features aside from bigger display and battery.
 
All I gotta say:
  • this is the "Edition" playbook all over again...at least from these rumors...Apple not happy with the current ASP for the Apple Watch and they want more $$$$, so let's wait a few years, let people forget about the "Edition" SKU ever being a thing, and let's just change the name to "Pro", because that naming scheme has worked for us for all of our products - MacBook PRO, iMac PRO, iPhone PRO/PRO Max, iPad PRO, and we will sell more Watches with higher ASP and rake in the $$$$$....genius!
 
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I think that's a little ridiculous. Apple Watch by its very nature is a product with very short life span. After 3-5 years the hardware becomes obsolete and you're stuck with un outdated piece of technology. The gold casing or "rugged" casing does not speed up the processor or increase the on-board memory post-purchase. The reason people are spending thousands on mechanical watches is because a Patek Philippe bought today will have the same appeal in 20 or 200 years. This is not the case with Apple Watch.
Exactly. I don't understand why people keep comparing luxury standard watches to Smartwatches. They serve different purposes. The former is to look nice when going to more formal places. Second is to be a digital fitness/secretary device.
 
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