I find that argument equally silly as “all iOS browsers are Safari”.
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Gurman: M4 MacBook Pro, Mac Mini, and iMac Coming This Year
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I find that argument equally silly as “all iOS browsers are Safari”.
The M4 has largely already been benchmarked. It is shipping in the iPad Pro. There is likely little surprise coming for single thread performance across the board once placed into various Macs. Nor for the plan M4 package results.
There isn’t much market share to be gained without going stepping into segments they aren’t interested in.
Apple would rather sell iCloud storage versus the SD reader.
Why include HDMI when they can sell a cable for that.
I could purchase 2 "other" laptops with both options for the cost of the lowest priced MBA.
It is just a greedy Apple thing.
You must purchase the cellular iPad to get GPS.
Oh and you must subscribe to Apple Music on Android to stream music you already own!
This sort of thing reminds me I should stay away from any additional Apple purchases. I'm not a millionaire.
I had to find an old version of iTunes to transcode my music. Tim should be ashamed!
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People put way too much stake in “Apple isn’t going to cannibalize xyz”. They do it all the time. If an Air with M4 is ready, they’ll launch exactly that.
For this reason, I can see them discontinuing the Pro variant after the new chassis.
It likely isn't 'ready' as much as it is the right to consume volume of chips ( or extend volume of the chips).
The notion that Apple can completely toss the Mn generation into the trash can every 12 months, probably isn't sustainable at the volume levels that Macs sell at. It isn't when the core building block is ready, it is when it is correct timing for the whole system to be iterated on. The MBA 13" is coupled to the MBA 15". The 15" rollout has pretty much anchored the pair into the Spring.
Yeah so I don’t know why you compared release cycle with Intel giving Apple a pass. They aren’t treating the pro market well. They haven’t sine the 2010 Mac Pro. That is why their sales are weak. Everyone moved on.
If Apple treated the Mac Studio and even worse the Pro like true desktops, then an M3 Max won’t beat a $10,000 Mac Pro.
Aren't they all essentially skins of Safari?
Did that change? I can't say I've thought about it for years as I'm happy with Safari.
Why is it "silly" for people to point out that the guts- the RAM/storage/SoC- of the base MacBook Pro are not superior to a MacBook Air? It's a $2000+ device across most of the world, with a chip merrily cooled in a tablet and the about of RAM and storage you'd expect in a $400 laptop from two years ago.
No, they’re web browsers. Safari is also a web browser. They happen to use the same engine, but a browser is much more than its engine.
I think that’s a different conversation.
What I’m calling silly is arguing that the MacBook Pro with M3 is “basically” the same as a MacBook Air with M3 or (hypothetical) iPad Pro with M3. It’s not. It has a very different form factor than the iPad, and a much better chassis than the Air, and also different priorities: more ports, but also more weight; also, fans.
I think 8 is too little, yes, but I wasn’t even arguing about any of that.
For the love of god redesign that woeful iMac
The current iMac design is gorgeous. I wish I had the space to put one.
Sorry, but if they don't have target display mode any more, not worth it for me. That screen usually can remain nice and functional for a while after you decide the rest of it's obsolete.
I'd rather just buy separate parts. A Mini&monitor won't have the same design compromises as an iMac, either.
And I wouldn't be demanding a dedicated SD card slot. Those slots can wear unexpectedly. A dongle is better.
And you will probably still have to give Apple outrageous amounts of money to have a decent amount of RAM.
I don't want a rat's nest of I/O cables sprouting from my laptop either. For attaching a bunch of hard drives that don't move, it's preferable (to me) to have them wired to a desktop that also doesn't move. With limited I/O on a laptop, I would need to swap connections more than I do with a Mini. My laptop is for portability.
Kind of a bummer if true. Old intel imac is giving out - been holding on hoping September might bring a Studio upgrade. Don't think I can wait until 2025. (But honestly the M2 will be such a step above the intel....)
Well then, in that case you and I get to disagree on all the above. Dismissing the engine behind a browser as insignificant is silly, and if it's just a nicer chassis, then it's just a MacBook Air in a nicer chassis. 🤷🏼♂️
The single fan is not necessary 99% of the time- had they kept the usual two there'd be more of an argument, but testing seems to suggest that overall cooling isn't great. The port selection is mildly better, but of course still poorer than the base 'real' pro. It's an Air in a different dress.
Many people waiting for 27” or 32” iMac Pro
What is Apple waiting for??????
Apple's delay of the 32" iMac may be because they want the parts price lowered to ~$500.
Last time the 32" Studio Display was released was 5 years ago so price cuts are hopefully coming.
My 2012 iMac 27" is ready for a replacement! It's a dozen years old already!
My honest question is I’m still using a 14” MBP with the M1 Pro chip…all these years later and it still absolutely manhandles everything I throw at it (including data files with 2-3 million+ rows, multiple apps running at the same time, etc)…what incentive would there be for me to even consider going for something new with an M4 when my ‘old’ M1 still has a ton of horsepower. I honestly think Apple outdid themselves when creating the M chips because it’s not like the old days when you should/need to upgrade every year or two. Only way I can see someone buying an M4 Apple computer is if they don’t already have an M chip one, or if they’re replacing one that was damaged.
It would be $4,899, and with a 256GB SSD and 12GB RAM in the 'base' model! Oh—and I forgot to add that the 'cheap' model would use a stepped-down processor with fewer cores and a smaller number of GUP cores as well! 😂
Specc'd out to something you would actually want it would be at least $7500. That's what I foresee if Apple does ever release a new large iMac (whether 27" or 32").
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Good to know. Waiting to see whether the Magic Keyboard and Mouse gets USB C along with the new iMac
I'm not saying it's insignificant. I'm saying there's a lot of stuff a browser can do to distinguish itself from a different browser with the same engine. As a recent example, contrast Arc and Chrome. Both Chromium, but quite different.
But "nicer chassis" here means way better display and sound system, and more ports.
Right. It's a tradeoff. Having a fanless laptop is nice, and the M3 is more than good enough that it's the right choice for most customers. For developers and others doing some long-running workloads, I'd probably lean towards recommending a fan instead.
My point here isn't better or worse (although the display and speakers are indisputably better — but also pricier). It's that you can take the M3 and put it in different devices, and make different tradeoffs for different target audiences.
So, I strongly disagree with the original claim that "It’s a MacBook Air dressed up as a MacBook Pro."
Having said that, I don't think it should start at 8 Gigs of RAM. That's already bordering on silly for the Air, but a $1,599 laptop with Pro in its name (please, no debate over what Apple means or doesn't mean by "Pro"; clearly, "Mac Pro" means something quite different than "AirPods Pro") should have more.