I'm only looking for an updated XDR display or an ASD 30" at half of the price of the XDR.
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Gurman: M4 MacBook Pro, Mac Mini, and iMac Coming This Year
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No. It’s been rumored and reported multiple times here in the past couple of years.
Seeing how the base model of the last iMac Pro had a base price of more than $5000 you can bet this one will be north of $7000 upon release.
Unfortunately I couldn't wait and had to buy an M2 Mac mini. Wish they just released an M3 Mac mini last year. :/
Technically, it was $4,999:
iMac Pro, the most powerful Mac ever, arrives this December
Apple today gave a sneak peek of iMac Pro, an entirely new workstation-class product line designed for pro users with the most demanding workflows.
www.apple.com
I was probably being optimistic. I’m willing to adjust and assume a $5,999 base.
If your intention is desktop use, what’s wrong with using a MacBook Pro and a hub.
History tells us exactly what the future will bring when management sucks profits out in the way of inflated salaries, fail to provide innovation, and fail to create reliable products.
I used to think the same thing but the first machine that Apple put an M4 in was an iPad so who knows?
Too funny as that's been said here by a few people for two decades. Just silly talk because Apple continues to develop, manufacture, and sell products Apple's 1 billion repeat customers want to buy.
Try and pay attention to what Apple customers do. In the end that's what counts.
Mac mini absolutely needs to keep the same form factor. The machining is amortized, keeps the cost low. Up base DRAM to 12GB, top out at 48GB for the M4 Pro, 36GB for the M4, put the SD card slot back for those who need it. M4 and M4 Pro only, keep the cost the same and watch them move out the door.
I'm really looking forward to a new Mini.
My 2019 Intel-based 3.2 Ghz i7 Mini has been operating 24/7 since then without a hitch running my security system and cameras. It'll be nice moving to an AS Mini using far less power 24 hours a day.
I use every thunderbolt port on my studio. MacBook Pro only has three. Won’t fit my needs for IO.
That is what TB4 hubs are for, especially for desktop use
Still bottleneck by data rate. Which I use. Thunderbolt hub doesn’t increase transfer rates.
$499 m4 mini is gonna be a monster. hopefully they raise it to 12GB ram from 8
The machining was already amortized many years ago. The mini has undergone redesigns along its history, and it will if it needs to adapt again to the needs and design improvements. Otherwise we would still have Mac minis as big as the first ones…
While I respect your opinion, I differ. I think it’s possible to make it a bit smaller and lighter, and give it better windows through the Aluminum case for the wireless antennas.
The mini is the only Apple Silicon Mac that hasn’t changed its form factor, and now that SoC are more and more efficient (see, a whole M4 SoC on a thin tablet without throttling) is the perfect moment to shrink its dimensions.
And before the server farm racks argument is brought up for the 99th time, no, it’s not a problem. I guess they adapted their facilities for the current dimensions, and they can do it once again (after more than a decade) to fit more minis in the same or less space.
So the question is, as always with new models on the horizon, should I wait for the new iMac M4 or upgrade to / buy an M3 (with over here in CH about 10 % discount since last quarter of July) for standard office use (MS Office, FileMaker Pro and a lot of open Firefox tabs ...)
Current MBP 16” is borderline portable. I’d go with the Air 15” but want a better display. Keeping my 2017 MBP until the next MBP generation is out - thinner and lighter would be highly appreciated.
It makes much more sense for Apple to launch a new bigger monitor so that you can pair it with a Mac Mini, a Mac Studio, or a Macbook Pro...
And better for the consumers also.
Intel’s desktop chips run at higher clock and much higher TDP. They are way, way less efficient than their mobile chips.
Apple could do that, too, and maybe they will with M4 Ultra. But they’re not gonna put that much effort into an SoC for < 10% of Mac customers and < 3% of total customers.
And, again, the current Mac Studio is just 14 months old. That’s not really that much.
to keep your 2017 nimble, you should install you current MacOs version updates only, and avoid at alll costs to install an all new MacOs.
I have a Macbook Pro 2018 with Ventura. I tried Sonoma, but my computer is unusable with Sonoma. So I only install Ventura Updates. And My Mac works fine. I plan to buy a Macbook Pro 16 M5 Max
Yes the mini design is dated and is not optimized in many respects. But in the age of Cook’s Apple, the question is will a mini design update encourage new/additional sales? I don’t know the answer but in today’s climate that is a key aspect driving physical design updates.
Ya'll are more optimistic than I am about the M4 I think it's just going to be another small increment update in order to avoid heat issues. The M1 was a major update but since then all the updates have mainly been in graphics performance small performance increases. But people see things on screen faster they think the computer is faster, IBM used that trick in the last OS/2 updates. I think now Apple is going to focus on AI processing speed for the near future more than performace or graphics it all about AI.
Apple will update its MacBook Pro, Mac mini, and iMac lines with its latest M4 chip later this year, according to Bloomberg reporter Mark Gurman.
Writing in his latest Power On newsletter, Gurman said Apple is preparing to upgrade every Mac to the new Apple silicon processor generation. Following the launch of the M4 iPad Pro in May, Apple will continue the M4 transition with the above mentioned Macs, and complete it with updates for the MacBook Air, Mac Pro, and Mac Studio in 2025.
One interesting tidbit from Gurman's latest report is that while the M4 overhaul is mostly focused on making Apple's machines more powerful – with the M4 processor's enhanced neural engine for handling AI tasks a standout upgrade – there is "at least one Mac model that will get more dramatic changes."
Apple has said the ultra-thin 2024 iPad Pro serves as a model for its upcoming design philosophy, with the company planning to offer "the thinnest and lightest products" in each category across the tech industry. Gurman previously reported that Apple is working on a thinner version of the MacBook Pro.
Whether these dramatic changes Gurman foresees relate to the design of Apple's Macs or the addition of a rumored new feature such as Face ID is unknown at this point. "Stay tuned," Gurman added.
Article Link: Gurman: M4 MacBook Pro, Mac Mini, and iMac Coming This Year
smaller for possibly the plain Mn version, but Mn Pro that would be difficult. While the plain version leaves lots of 'empty space' the Pro version does not. Economically, there is very little good reason to decouple them by chassis. You would shrink the economies of scales on the chassis for both halves to smaller sizes; that just buys even higher costs.( which the Mini no way needs. Lower costs would be better. )
Yes it is more efficient because can put even more GPU horsepower into the chassis now. Apple has already used that efficiency improvement to create the 'Pro' model. It isn't lying 'fallow' ... it has been used.
Several folks want to 'hand wave' the Pro Mini off onto the Studio's responsibility. That is a different market. The Studio covers Max and Ultra . The Mini chassis has same task of covering two SoCs ( plain and Pro).
The 'wireless win' above does absolutely nothing for the server folks. Denser with the same dubious non front to back cooling set up may not be 'better' either. ( and Pro versions probably couldn't shrink anyway).
Any substantive large scale server farm is going to want to reuse the racks they have rather than rip all of them out and replace. The substantially higher selling point would be more compute in the same space that they already have. New boxes that slide into the same racks that enable providing more services to more customers in the same amount of volume and power supply (and HVAC cooling). More service , same core facility infrastructure would drive higher revenues.