They have already confirmed that they have no plans to release a larger iMac so no point in keep waiting for that.
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Gurman: No Apple Event Planned for Upcoming iPads and Macs
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I believe they are not having an event, so as not to look even more behind when nothing gets said about AI. They will hopefully be ready in June to have something to talk about but since all the buzz is on some thing they’re not ready to talk about, they’ll just do press events for these new iPads. It’s a shame, I was looking forward to it just for the iPads. I hope there is still a chance that Gurman is mistaken.
Agree we don't need a dedicated keynote but these should be some fairly major updates for the iPad, the Pros especially.
Tim knows selling a $2000 iPad Pro in person, is a tough sell.
While newer rumors suggest it might not be as high, when you add the new accessories (Pencil 4, and aluminum Magic Keyboard, it could very well take you over $2K
While newer rumors suggest it might not be as high, when you add the new accessories (Pencil 4, and aluminum Magic Keyboard, it could very well take you over $2K
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Because it was always rumor and that rumor said it's just like Pencil 2, but with interchangeable tips, which s nothing for me. Barely a change.
The current 12" iPad Pro can be acquired with 2TB and cellular for "just" $2,399 so a $2,000 price would be a surprise.
I believe Apple has not been known for lowering prices on new equipment.
I believe Apple has not been known for lowering prices on new equipment.
HobeSoundDarryl
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HobeSoundDarryl
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Actually the quote was no 27" iMac, encouraging all to "buy the 24-inch we have for sale now." This is from the same company that often ridicules what they don't have for sale until they do: "Who would want to watch video on an iPod?" and "one handed use" vs. phablet phones, etc. Nobody needs a front-facing camera in iPad Gen 1... until the next year when the headline reason to buy & upgrade to iPad 2 was... you guessed it.
Today we launch this new iPad with incredible, magical Retina screen and this new iPad Mini without a Retina screen. You absolutely need retina in the bigger one but you don't need it in the Mini... until the next year when Mini went Retina and then you absolutely needed Retina in the Mini. And so on. There's PLENTY of history of pushing what they have for sale now while implying that something else is not coming/important... until they embrace the latter and then it is a huge reason to "buy/upgrade now."
My guess is that Apple WILL choose to take consumer money for an iMac "bigger" and probably not break that bit of spin by rolling out an iMac 30"-32". For a good while, it was iMac 27" and iMac 21". Either both of them compromised at 24" or one of them became a 24". Since I strongly doubt the "one" was the 27" shrinking 3" implying the old 21" could go 18", I assume 21" became 24" (or + 3")... so 27" could +3" to 30", still make Apple's claim be true AND reconcile the "problem" of the former iMac "bigger" being the same price as Mac-less ASD screen (only) by being branded "PRO" and priced like the old iMac "bigger" pro.
So if I was in that crowd hoping for a bigger iMac, I'd still have plenty of hope- even expectations- but I stepped off that ride to embrace separates, as iMac is only a relatively good buy going in... then terrible at the end when any one part failing (or Apple deciding to vintage it) takes the entire thing down with it.
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I’ll miss Tim telling me how excited he is to discuss some item or tech team at the donut, possibly standing precariously on its roof. Maybe that’ll be included in the website videos. Can’t wait. Or maybe I can.
Maybe if they had an event worthy product. Perhaps the Vision Pro was the nail, so to speak.
Well, they could use the SJT to put on shows. Might help with morale.
Well, they could use the SJT to put on shows. Might help with morale.
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Yeah, it's hard to take a "no event" rumor too seriously. It would be really surprising if they make a major revision to the iPad Pro and only announce it in a press release. That's just not what Apple does.
I am still hoping for the bigger iMac and would order the first day I could. I really really prefer the AIO to separates by a wide margin and that preference is keeping me wedded to my 2017 27” iMac. I agree that if you have a failure in a one-piece device you lose everything until repaired, but isn’t that true of separates as well? Lose a separates screen and you’re out of business until repair/replacement. Lose the compute box? Likewise. Same for separate keyboard for that matter and every desktop has that. Also, the AIOs from Apple have appeared to be pretty robust given this and other forum contents. I know the two of mine, albeit a very small sampling, have not had issues.
How about a new larger iMac already?
Hopefully with a screen size that starts with a 3 and price that starts with a 2
Hopefully with a screen size that starts with a 3 and price that starts with a 2
in fairness the differences was always going to be all about OLED. There's nothing much which can be updated for ipads or macs these days
HobeSoundDarryl
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The big difference is financial. When a part of a separates setup goes, you replace the part. When a part of AIO goes, you toss everything. For example, I have a Mac Studio (replacement for my long-term iMac) attached to a separate Ultra-Wide screen. When Apple vintages that Studio or should this screen conk, I can simply replace the part that needed replaced... but not have to buy "the rest." I expect the Studio to vintage before the screen fails because screens usually outlast Mac guts/os. So in transaction #2, I'll be buying a replacement Mac only and then continuing to use this same screen. It's in THAT math (transaction #2+) where the separates proposition can make much more $en$e.
The AIO tends to be a great buy going in and then NOT a good value at all at the end. For example, I have my last iMac 27" pretty much retired now. It sits here with a fantastic 5K 27" screen... now useless because it can't be used as a screen (without some significant hardware hacks). So while I was an AIO user for well over 10 years, that's over now no matter what what is offered as a "going in" value proposition. I will no longer choose to have it all married together and then let any one part- or just an arbitrary corp. decision- take the whole system down.
Yes, iMacs tend to be well built and can last a long time... but even if yours persist as hardware, macOS will eventually leave them behind... unless you want to trust the software hack... which then opens up many security "what if" scenarios for those who seem to only be able to trust Apple security. If your 2017 is not already vintaged, it will be soon... and then all that good hardware is left behind by a corporate choice. If it has a fusion drive in it, it is likely to experience that "one bad part" at any time now (be sure you have a good backup).
All that shared, I very much appreciate the tangible AIO benefits- particularly just plug it in and start using it. Passage of time will simply reframe the perception of value at the end and into transaction #2+.
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HobeSoundDarryl
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I suspect ONE of those wishes will be granted in 2024 or 2025. The other might not even start with a 3.
One can easily look to the not-too-distant past to see the simple way to roll out an iMac "bigger" now that ASD has been established as only the screen portion at the former "starting at..." price for same screen + whole Mac pricing...
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Doesn’t bode well for the iPad OLED rumor then. Doesn’t seem like Apple would let that change happen via press release.
The article said video.
The recent “events” have just been a series of videos anyway. And the last one was just 30 minutes long, to cover 3 Macs. I could see the iPad Pro OLED video being 15 minutes. That’s all it would need, and that’s all it would get in a combined event, so not a big difference.
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Who needs Apple events when we have MacRumors?
You’re not missing anything. “Pro“ is a marketing term (they could have just called it “iPad Deluxe“) that has nothing to do with the product, but everything to do with the buyer. If it makes you feel like a “professional“ you’ll be more prone to spend big dollars for it.
Apple isn’t the only company that engages in this, look at the attached photos of a “pro“ toothbrush and a “pro“ shaver, what the hell is “professional“ about those?
Contrast the above with a true professional product, RED digital cameras. You’ll not find the word “pro“ anywhere in the model names. Why? It’s not necessary! REAL PROS know what this product is for and how it suits their needs.
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I believe Apple will still do a prerecorded video (not the normal length event video) ... showcasing what developers are doing with it.
And notable websites and videographers producing their own opinions as well.
I personally think OLED is a big deal, but then M3 is not a huge improvement over M2. I'm curious how they plan to lure users to buy into it.
And I'm eager to see what Apple plan on doing with the storage and RAM configuration... since the OLED will factor into an increase in cost.
Agree with those who think these pre-recorded, high production events are boring and pointless.
We don’t need a stupid “Mother Nature” video, just release the new products.
We don’t need a stupid “Mother Nature” video, just release the new products.