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Gurman: No Hardware at WWDC, Next Apple TV No Longer Coming Soon

HobeSoundDarryl said:
Someone proposed an A.I. drinking game: take a drink each time A.I. is uttered. But someone else warned that all players would be dead from alcohol poisoning by approx. minute 9 or so. ;)
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I care about ai, but it cannot be the killer thing, i mean especially iPad Os is in need of a overhaul.

i use iPad only and have been since the m1 came out, while I can do anything I need to do, it can definitely improve.
iPads,Macs and iPhones are os constrained nowadays not hardware constrained, may be Macs are doing better followed by iPhones and then ipads as the worst hw/sw combo.

So AI is good to have for some features, but it cannot be the main thing ( but I know it will)

also let’s hope Mother Nature has no part in this wwdc!
 
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TigerNike23 said:
With apologies to Alex Lindsay of MacBreak Weekly, Apple needs to go back to live keynotes.
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They’re a corporation, not a church (not that you’d know it hanging around threads like this). Release to press release, scatter review units far and wide, and stop with the creepy born again revivalist “event” nonsense altogether.
 
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yabeweb said:
I care about ai, but it cannot be the killer thing, i mean especially iPad Os is in need of a overhaul.
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iPadOS has needed an overhaul for about 5+ years now, maybe longer. I'm doubting it's ever coming... like a plethora of AAA games of Mac. For both, Apple has to find the will... and allocate sizable money & effort. I think they lack the motivation (for both)... but are happy to pay both lip service... since that costs them nothing from the many cash vaults.

yabeweb said:
i use iPad only and have been since the m1 came out, while I can do anything I need to do, it can definitely improve.
iPads,Macs and iPhones are os constrained nowadays not hardware constrained, may be Macs are doing better followed by iPhones and then ipads as the worst hw/sw combo.

So AI is good to have for some features, but it cannot be the main thing ( but I know it will)
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I think it will. I recall a WWDC keynote some years ago where- for macOS- they seemed to spend a LOT of time talking about making some elements slightly transparent. Transparency was uttered over and over again like it was something major. I suspect then, they just didn't have much to show, so they had to make modest visual tweaks seem bigger (deal) than they were. However, I suspect the rush for Apple A.I. will deliver some "gee whiz" and we'll definitely hear about that.

yabeweb said:
also let’s hope Mother Nature has no part in this wwdc!
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A.I. tends to be very demanding of hardware, very power hungry... so just about the opposite of the Mother Nature message. I suspect she feels towards A.I. what she feels about Bitcoin mining. However, since she's just a paid actress, I suspect she will "love it" as much as iJustine & the other "friends of Apple" (who get first dibs at 'reviews' and mysteriously everything is practically perfect in every way) and all who hear them say "We think you'll love it" ;)
 
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anthony13 said:
Yea I can’t get excited for wwdc this year cause I think it’s going to be a big push toward AI and between that and Vision Pro it’s all a bit silly to me.
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Curious to know: what would be REALLY exciting for you software-wise?
 
HobeSoundDarryl said:
Embedded camera doesn't make sense in a new AppleTV... except for those who happen to place their AppleTV right above or right below CENTER of their TV. Anywhere else and what those on the other end will see is you looking left or right of them.
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I suspect this is more so linked into the rumors of a "bigger AppleTV" or "merging Apple TV with Speakers" move. Something roughly similar to

www.roku.com

Roku® Streambar® SE | Roku Soundbar & 4K streaming | Roku

Roku® Streambar® SE upgrades any TV with powerful streaming & premium sound. A 4K streaming soundbar that lets you hear every detail.
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Only also does Videoconferencing ( instead of having to couple the iPhone to the AppleTV).


For the notion presented in this rumor of reducing the price $99 , then adding a camera (and raising the bill of materials) doesn't much much sense. But if Apple was going to 'balance' a more affordable AppleTV with a more expensive AppleTV then that would make more sense. ( the camera would go into the more expensive unit). For example a $200-229 Combo ( AppleTV+HomePod+camera ) option. [ a bit of a headless Studio display. ]

Centering the speaker would be natural.


And if Apple is going to make Siri "suck less", then talking/gesturing to the combo AppleTV that can see and hear you is possibility incrementally more 'magical'.



HobeSoundDarryl said:
So, my opinion is to put a NORMAL USB-C jack back on AppleTV to which a WIRED camera could be attached. Then one could tuck their AppleTV wherever they do now but the camera could still be right where it needs to be.
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If Apple is lowering the AppleTV Price to $99 , it would be surprising that the Ethernet jack was disappearing. So more USB jacks ( or more functionality to the diagnostics USB jacks) wouldn't be likely. If trying to prune costs more likely pruning off functionality more so than adding it. ( decent chance still getting a A-series that is capped at USB 2.0 speeds.)
 
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cbjxiii said:
Ah yes... Apple is prohibited to use their own events to announce anything other than rumored things bloggers speculate about.
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Try again. Make an effort and read the rest of my posts.
It makes zero sense for Apple to release M4 MBPs just 7 months after M3s, while iPad mini was never released at WWDC
 
Jett0516 said:
No hardware, no care
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I wouldn't go that far. I'm quite curious about how quickly support for Intel is being dropped. Could Apple end support for Intel at Sonoma by promising an extra year of security updates? Will they announce (Sonoma +1) is the last one for Intel?

I half expect Tim Cook to say something to the effect of, "Remember the old days when the computer you bought last year was hopelessly obsolete this year? Thanks to AI, those days have returned, but you will love the new capabilities..."

Given the back-blast from Microsoft's Recall if he had a me-too plan that will be dropped. I doubt he did, honestly. Apple's previous offer to root through your hard drive for naughtiness was not well received.
 
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pksv said:
Try again. Make an effort and read the rest of my posts.
It makes zero sense for Apple to release M4 MBPs just 7 months after M3s, while iPad mini was never released at WWDC
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Yeah, it makes more sense to stall them and have sales dry up.

Apple will release M4 MBPs as soon as stock of M3 is low. Question is if they’ve managed to offload most of the garbage M3 yet through sales.
 
DrWojtek said:
Yeah, it makes more sense to stall them and have sales dry up.

Apple will release M4 MBPs as soon as stock of M3 is low. Question is if they’ve managed to offload most of the garbage M3 yet through sales.
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You can mark my message and come back here in 8 days - Apple will 100% NOT release M4 MBPs at WWDC.
 
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"There's no hardware slated to be announced at WWDC, unless Apple unexpectedly previews a new device launching later"

Sigh... once again Mark "Oftenwrong" Gurman will be 100% right no matter what happens.
 
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DrWojtek said:
Yeah, it makes more sense to stall them and have sales dry up.

Apple will release M4 MBPs as soon as stock of M3 is low. Question is if they’ve managed to offload most of the garbage M3 yet through sales.
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I'm old enough to remember the Osborne Effect. It's a great way to kill a company. Pop onto Wikipedia and look it up.

Tim is old enough to remember too. Announcing Glorious New AI Features (which he has to, or admit missing the boat, then the stock price dives and his stock options go to zero) and having no hardware to run it except an oversized phone with a crippled OS would be a disaster. If there is no M4 hardware available now then he needs to announce a firm roadmap of how it is rolling out.
 
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Apple should just do one full event where they show off all new hardware and all the new devices that are coming out... maybe do it in July or Aug so then everyone knows what to expect
 
turbineseaplane said:
Me too

I just don't even really want all this "my computing device kind of sort of helps me do things" stuff

It creates weird outputs that need checking anyways and it's really just creating additional work
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If it was actually helpful then it would be useful.

But it's never helpful. At least not in my experience.
 
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BorisDG said:
To be honest, new Apple TV is not needed. The chipset in current is overkill.
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As with all Apple devices. Lol. It’s just puzzling how Apple won’t take advantage of the hardware. Their hardware team is so damn far ahead of the software team that its laughable. I wonder how they treat each other internally. Do the hardware team think they are superior to the software team? Lol.
 
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HobeSoundDarryl said:
iPadOS has needed an overhaul for about 5+ years now, maybe longer. I'm doubting it's ever coming... like a plethora of AAA games of Mac. For both, Apple has to find the will... and allocate sizable money & effort. I think they lack the motivation (for both)... but are happy to pay both lip service... since that costs them nothing from the many cash vaults.



I think it will. I recall a WWDC keynote some years ago where- for macOS- they seemed to spend a LOT of time talking about making some elements slightly transparent. Transparency was uttered over and over again like it was something major. I suspect then, they just didn't have much to show, so they had to make modest visual tweaks seem bigger (deal) than they were. However, I suspect the rush for Apple A.I. will deliver some "gee whiz" and we'll definitely hear about that.



A.I. tends to be very demanding of hardware, very power hungry... so just about the opposite of the Mother Nature message. I suspect she feels towards A.I. what she feels about Bitcoin mining. However, since she's just a paid actress, I suspect she will "love it" as much as iJustine & the other "friends of Apple" (who get first dibs at 'reviews' and mysteriously everything is practically perfect in every way) and all who hear them say "We think you'll love it" ;)
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Never watch reviews especially form the usual suspects,glorified ads.
 
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