OMG! I can't believe I'm arguing with a 14 yr old! Yeah, I just looked up your profile. That's it...discussion over.
Oh, I didn't realise that being fourteen made it thus that I am not allowed to express my opinion on 'thrashings'. And may I ask why you have a problem arguing with a fourteen year old? Just because I'm fourteen doesn't mean that I'm wrong. (Also, I'm fourteen and I don't use "OMG!" so that may speak to my maturity and to your own).
Edit: I just realised that the post above has been deleted (but the post above is exactly what Unixfool said)....
I'm not a reader of Ghandi...don't care about it one bit. I do believe in corporal punishment. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Most in this thread stated that the OP should go fight or beat up the other guy...wow, that's a great suggestion, yet a parent can't punish his child for what amounts to a criminal offense? I'm not saying I'd thrash him if I suspected he committed the crime. If it is proven, he's in trouble and he may well be out the door, but before he leaves, he may well get a thrashing. Sorry man, but I wan't brought up to accept sexual assault as a minor crime. That's a huge deal, if it happened.
I agree, sexual assault is a huge matter. I just don't believe in a parent playing judge, jury and executioner. I don't believe, that thrashing/beating/assaulting or whatever terminology you wish, is an appropriate way of teaching a child a lesson. I do believe that parents should teach their child good values however, when the teaching of good values requires them to physically beat a child, plainly is wrong. I will say it now and I will say it again, there are other ways to teach people values then bashing them.
And I'm curious how physically assaulting someone (a crime if you were to do it to an adult) who in this case is your son, will show him good values? Surely, all it shows is that assault is okay when it's with a child and that using power unfairly is okay (because make no mistake, assault without a judge or jury is unfair, in fact assaulting someone is unfair in any and all cases). And, maybe you should read Ghandi, he's a very wise man.
So, to clarify, IF a school official informed me that my son has been accused by another girl of fondling her privates, tackling her, and pulling up her skirt and he is 14-yrs-old, he's in some serious trouble. If the young lady actually states that he did this and there are witnesses, he's in trouble. I'm not talking about not posting his bail either. At that point, he'd probably be safer in jail. If there is a history of sexual assault (other girls complaining of the same thing), he's pretty much disowned.
Ah, so now, if you commit a crime (wether it be due to a mistake in values, or just wrong in general) you will disown him. That's terrific! Make one mistake and you are out of the house! Gone! I always thought that if you made a mistake your parents would tell you why it's wrong and give you another chance. And above all, they would always be there to support you (a cliche I know, but a good one nonetheless). Obviously, I'm wrong (I'm fourteen after all, so what do I know!)
You're jumping to tons of conclusions with your accusations. . Maybe having two girls that are nearly the age of the OP's GF makes me more sensitive than the other readers. Don't make me out to be some type of Neanderthal. Whether you like it or not, a parent can administer corporal punishment and not break the law. Being at home is NOT being at school. And just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean it isn't allowed or unacceptable...to you, maybe, but there's over 6 billion people on this planet, with a huge part of it being Third World. Not everyone cares for Ghandi's speeches and writings. And I'm not going to change my mind just because someone who doesn't know me berates me on an internet forum. I'm 42 years old and I've seen and dealt with a lot that some of you haven't. You best believe I'm not going to take advice from any teens on this...how in Hell would a teen know the first thing about parenting??? Or even someone who may not have kids but be of legal age? Or even someone who didn't have my upbringing. For my family and kids, I know what I'm doing. I'm the father figure and a good husband...my wife stands by me in almost everything I do. That's about all that matters, IMO. My wife expects me to lead the family and if I have to be the disciplinarian, that's what I'm doing...it isn't fun, but you know what? My and my wife's souls are actually on the line if I don't do my utmost to properly raise my kids.
I think that if more parents were involved with their kids and actually held them responsible for their actions (and no, I'm not talking about leaving them in jail by not bailing them out), they probably wouldn't be sexually assaulting young ladies in the first place.
Lastly, I want you to show me where corporal punishment is unlawful for a 14 yr. old child. Now, I live in Northern VA. Research VA law and show me where it states that it's against the law. Not some forum link to some unofficial data...I'd like to see actual .gov information.
There is a distinct difference between corporal punishment and 'thrashing' and just because corporal punishment is not against the law (and I never said it was) doesn't make it right. Just because enslaving people wasn't against the law, doesn't mean that it was right. While I may sound a bit melodramatic comparing thrashing minors and enslaving people, I think that they by and large reflect on the same matter. They both focused on people's rights (or the lack thereof). Why should it be legal for a parent to thrash their fourteen year old son, while illegal for a parent to go and thrash an adult. Call me crazy but I don't see the logic in allowing children to be beat up while adults can't.
I just wanted to inform you that not everyone in the U.S. or anywhere else in the world shares your views. This forum doesn't represent a world or national view. Some of you guys live in a small cardboard box...you think that whatever happens in that box also happens outside of it. You're wrong.
Am I the only one who finds it funny that you criticise me for 'berating' you (which I hope I wasn't as it certainly was not my intention), and then you go on to say that I have no world view whatsoever and that I (figuratively I hope) live in a cardboard box. And for your information, I know that some people don't share my view. However, I do hope that people share my view that minors deserve the same rights as adults, and therefore should not be beaten up by their own parents. My question to you; Why should adults not be allowed to be assaulted, while with children, being assaulted by parents is okay?
If you don't want to respond to me because I'm fourteen, fine.
However, in the debates I've had, "I'm older than you!" is not a valid argument, rather, a message of defeat.
King Mook Mook
P.S. Sorry about this being really long, I just wanted to get all of my comments on his post out there!
