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Hands-On With Apple Music Sing in iOS 16.2
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Uhm, yes it is mate. How do you think Karaoke works? You sing into a microphone, and your voice goes out the speakers WITH the music.
Very much not a karaoke machine. Just a vocal remover.
If you want to use this for karaoke you need to supply your own mixer and microphone.
Sure thing. Have you ever watched Carpool Karaoke? Do they have microphones? More than one type of Karaoke you know…mate.
You actually don’t get the squelch effect (at least not on any tracks I’ve tried). I think the squelch effect must come from a forced attempt to remove all the “human” audio range which normally covers over part of the other instruments. Since Apple’s leaving the vocals in there, but turning them way down, it keeps the music sounding fairly musical compared to other apps (and online tools) I’ve tried.
Oh, and I read that, for Dolby Audio tracks, it could be that Apple’s having artists tag the vocal track for removal which, for those songs, would yield a much cleaner removal.
I’ve seen a song with background singer lyrics animated differently (smaller), maybe that’s what they mean by multiple singers? Maybe I should try one of the standard duets and see what that looks like. UPDATE: The duets have one part right justified and one part left justified. We are still in betatown, though. If a mixer is what’s required, there are companies preparing to market to consumers of all cost levels starting with the release of 16.2
And for the EU to say that Apple’s being a gatekeeper to Apple Sing Music on Apple Music on Apple Devices using Apple’s OS. IF they continue to infringe, they will penalize Apple 10% of their customers ears worldwide for the first infringement and 5% more for each subsequent infringement. Van Gogh for it.
I’ve seen songs on one album have the live lyrics and the same song on another album NOT have the live lyrics. So, I’m guessing that in some cases, songs might have to be swapped out in a given playlist.
Try this, start AirPlaying to to an Apple TV. Notice how it doesn’t immediately start playing? That’s because part of AirPlay is a buffer that will keep the stream playing even if there are intermittent drops in the data being received. What a person’s singing would not align with what’s coming out of the speakers behind them… BUT, maybe that would work if the person singing was in another room from the speakers?
“But Apple used to make things for ME and ME ONLY! I don’t like them making things for other people, it’s just WRONG! Where’s my updated AppleIIGS!?”For many folks in this thread ...
Low priority. I’m still waiting for my PowerBook G5…
“Then I can come to no other conclusion but that Apple has lost the ability to make the systems that millions of folks like me want. Sad to see it, but I’m guessing if they don’t release an updated IIGS, they’ll probably be a shadow of their former selves in less than two years.”
I don’t even need an app for that. I just try to sing.
That would be a great feature though. I understand why music is protected but it would be great if you could purchase at a discount for use cases like yours when you already subscribe to a service. They had no problem doing that for ringtones.
I’ve been using it since Friday, got some friends over for karaoke and it was great! For non-supported tracks I bounced back to owner media or YouTube.
I used my iPad Pro M2 connected to the TV over HDMI and the analog audio going to my mixer and to the amp. I have one of those little Choetech docks that have both HDMI and analog audio output.
The iPad Pro dual screen feature was very useful. A little odd to use at first (and still), but getting to know it better.
I suppose there is no way to bypass the buffer in AirPlay or AirPlay 2. If there is a way, only Apple could do it since they designed the spec and control it. But you can still connect live streams for microphone via bluetooth. I've used my iPhone as a microphone directly to my AirPods and there is no latency at all so that could work.
You’re right, I don’t think any AirPlay devices even have a direct stream mode. I think they all buffer for a few seconds and do a handshake to sync before playing.
Latency is also built into bluetooth, the sender needs to compress the stream and the receiver needs to decompress. It’s much better than it used to be, but still not low enough to properly sync with music. The wireless karaoke mics I’ve seen use a custom sender and receive to work around those “convenience” features built into the standards. (Just quickly searching for bluetooth Karaoke shows those mics are using an on-device speaker and not transmitting data).
I should've been more specific because of course there's some latency in BT but it's unnoticeable to me. I've used plenty of wireless mics for all kinds of stage work including karaoke but those are usually proprietary transmitters and receiver systems in 600-900 MHz range. Furthermore, karaoke is not exactly a precision act. Most karaoke performances I've seen in bars could've been playing the wrong song and nobody would notice ;-)
When you say you don’t notice the latency in BT, I’m assuming that’s because you’re not trying to sync with audio being produced by a device? What I’m saying is that if a user has a song in GarageBand and creates a new track, they cannot recorded anything on that track, live instruments or singing, in synch with the instruments already there when listening via Bluetooth because of the latency. Depending on the tempo, it can be half a beat or more off which is far enough off to make karaoke annoying.
Personally think it's very stupid that they didn't add support for Macs especially macs with apple silicon. Definitely an L there for apple. I mean if they somehow couldn't include the adjustment of the vocals they 100% could've included the word-by-word lyrics, considering the Apple Music app appears to be a catalyst app rip from iPadOS it would've already included those features no?
With the iOS 16.2 release candidate that came out today, Apple added the new Apple Music Sing feature that was announced earlier this week. We thought we'd check out the new karaoke feature to see how it works.
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Apple Music Sing is available on modern iPhones and iPads, as well as the newest Apple TV 4K. It's built in to the Apple Music app, and therefore limited to Apple Music subscribers. Note that you need to have a full Apple Music subscription, as it is not included with the more affordable voice-only plan.
If you've used Apple Music's built-in follow along lyrics feature, you know how to use Apple Music Sing. The feature basically uses the lyric functionality, while also adding a toggle to turn down the vocals of a song to replace them with your own.
Just pick a song, turn on the lyrics, and then use the little microphone icon to adjust the vocals. Apple Music Sing is not available for every song, and it's not entirely clear which songs Apple is limiting it to.
Apple is going to provide playlists for Apple Music Sing, which will be filled with popular songs to sing along to. Apple Music Sing will be available to all users with the launch of iOS 16.2, and as we already have a release candidate, iOS 16.2 could come out as soon as next week.
Apple Music Sing is available on the iPhone 11 and later, the third-generation 11-inch iPad Pro and later, the fifth-generation 12.9-inch iPad Pro and later, the fourth-generation iPad Air and later, the ninth-generation iPad and later, the iPad mini and later, and the new third-generation Apple TV 4K.
Article Link: Hands-On With Apple Music Sing in iOS 16.2
I seem to have it AirPlay mirroring to both gens of old ATV4K from iPhone 14PM, audio coming out of HomePods to boot! If only iphone music went landscape lol. I don’t have an iPad new enough for it.
Lol, they literally have multiple microphones which gets mixed into the music. You know, karaoke!
Was really blown away with this feature. It is not 100% perfect yet, but very close. I feel next 1-2 updates should make it perfect!
Can still very faintly hear chorus and female vocals.
Can still very faintly hear chorus and female vocals.