The SD card slot is as thin as USB-C and it makes sense to include for people who need it.
I'm also thinking of waiting for a refresh for a couple of reasons. To wait to see if there are any first gen issues and maybe it'll also have the Nvidia 1660 and maybe a surprise like an optional TouchBar. FaceID plus the expected 1080p camera etc...
Perhaps the reason you're having so many issues making your point is because you seem to be choosing the wrong words. For example...
"By the time I get my computer, and all the other accessories needed to make it work, it's just not worth it and I end up leaving it all at home". -- That's "killing portability".
"Now there's one more thing I need to carry". -- That's "inconvenient".
Something that's clean, simple and doesn't require additional components is "well designed", NOT "portable".
Perhaps if you pick the right word, you'll get different responses.
In fact, 2015 Macbook´s Pro are the most wanted on the second hand market.I think my word choice was perfect. And more people have liked my comments than disliked them. 🙂
A product that’s inconvenient to hold and lug around (due to its need for additional hardware) is a product that’s inherently less portable than one which is easy to lug around (without the need for additional hardware).
My 2015 MacBook Pro is inherently more portable than my thinner/lighter 2017 MacBook Pro, because it consists of less stuff I have to carry.
Apple has an entire team dedicated to examining pro workflows. But it’s possible they aren’t familiar with yours.I think my word choice was perfect. And more people have liked my comments than disliked them. 🙂
A product that’s inconvenient to hold and lug around (due to its need for additional hardware) is a product that’s inherently less portable than one which is easy to lug around (without the need for additional hardware).
My 2015 MacBook Pro is inherently more portable than my thinner/lighter 2017 MacBook Pro, because it consists of less stuff I have to carry.
And sure, I don't "need to use the Touch Bar" but you know what I do need to use? The function keys.
I know it might not seem like it to you but you are in an overwhelming minority here. Apple is clearly listening to and implementing changes were it is deemed necessary to keep its customers. It seems to me that new MacBook Pro 16” is nearly perfect for pro/power users and will probably only get better when all the minor issues are rolled out. You have gone on quite the rant about having to plug in a dongle to use an SD card and the inconvenience of having to swap between a Touch Bar keyboard and non-touch bar keep bar keyboards but it’s obviously not an issue for the vast majority. I think you’re just gonna have to deal with it or keep using your 2015 MacBook Pro, or buy a pc 😬I think my word choice was perfect. And more people have liked my comments than disliked them. 🙂
A product that’s inconvenient to hold and lug around (due to its need for additional hardware) is a product that’s inherently less portable than one which is easy to lug around (without the need for additional hardware).
My 2015 MacBook Pro is inherently more portable than my thinner/lighter 2017 MacBook Pro, because it consists of less stuff I have to carry.
Key word in your post: "I."Haven't held an SD card in my hand for at least 2 years now. Ever since the iPhone replaced the digital camera there is no need for most people to have an SD slot. And if you're a photographer you carry around so much weight a dongle is irrelevant. You're in the tiny minority here I would think.
Pure speculation based on no facts. 0/10 credibility.I know it might not seem like it to you but you are in an overwhelming minority here. Apple is clearly listening to and implementing changes were it is deemed necessary to keep its customers. It seems to me that new MacBook Pro 16” is nearly perfect for pro/power users and will probably only get better when all the minor issues are rolled out. You have gone on quite the rant about having to plug in a dongle to use an SD card and the inconvenience of having to swap between a Touch Bar keyboard and non-touch bar keep bar keyboards but it’s obviously not an issue for the vast majority. I think you’re just gonna have to deal with it or keep using your 2015 MacBook Pro, or buy a pc 😬
Despite my 2 comments above...same. I'll take the tradeoffs.I can't wait to get this machine, it fixes so much I've hated with the 2016-2019 models. I just have to flog off my dumpster fire 2016 MBP first.
I think my word choice was perfect. And more people have liked my comments than disliked them. 🙂
A product that’s inconvenient to hold and lug around (due to its need for additional hardware) is a product that’s inherently less portable than one which is easy to lug around (without the need for additional hardware).
My 2015 MacBook Pro is inherently more portable than my thinner/lighter 2017 MacBook Pro, because it consists of less stuff I have to carry.
Wait, I'm no Apple defender here, but how is the price any more ridiculous than the models from the last 2 years?Only Apple could market a 'new' scissor keyboard to replace their grossly unreliable butterfly keyboard as a notable feature.
Such a ridiculous price too, not that it surprises me anymore.
Yes it would be very easy to include an SD card slot, but then people wouldn't be forced to buy even more expensive storage upgrades from them.The SD card slot is as thin as USB-C and it makes sense to include for people who need it.
You're right, it's not more ridiculous than the last 2 years, which is why I said that it didn't surprise me. I just don't think that the price is reasonable for a laptop.Wait, I'm no Apple defender here, but how is the price any more ridiculous than the models from the last 2 years?
Macs are Pc´s.I know it might not seem like it to you but you are in an overwhelming minority here. Apple is clearly listening to and implementing changes were it is deemed necessary to keep its customers. It seems to me that new MacBook Pro 16” is nearly perfect for pro/power users and will probably only get better when all the minor issues are rolled out. You have gone on quite the rant about having to plug in a dongle to use an SD card and the inconvenience of having to swap between a Touch Bar keyboard and non-touch bar keep bar keyboards but it’s obviously not an issue for the vast majority. I think you’re just gonna have to deal with it or keep using your 2015 MacBook Pro, or buy a pc 😬
Macs are Pc´s.
Soldered everything.Great, but How are the SSD and RAM inside? Soldered? One or two SSD sticks? Standard connenctor? RAID? A full take apart – disassembly – teardown would be great. Thanks!
Read my post again.
Yes, dongles do indeed negate portability. The point of having something that's portable is to have something that doesn't need to be tied down to a bunch of dangly crap that makes it annoying to use on a lap or on an airplane.
I wish you guys would have compared the 15 inch to the 16 inch in size and showed how much of a bezel reduction there was.
You totally nail it.Read my post again.
Yes, dongles do indeed negate portability. The point of having something that's portable is to have something that doesn't need to be tied down to a bunch of dangly crap that makes it annoying to use on a lap or on an airplane.
And sure, I don't "need to use the Touch Bar" but you know what I do need to use? The function keys.
And even if I liked the Touch Bar, the problem is that it exists only on the MacBooks, and not on any of the desktop Macs. So there's no sense in even getting used to using it while I'm on the go if I can't use it when I'm back using my desktop at the office. It causes too much disparity between my portable Macs and my desktop Macs, so it ultimately just gets in the way.
Sure you need to use the touchbar since its holds main functionality like Play, Volume, Brightness etc. And why carry an dongle, when it could be avoided like in most other laptops or my actual MBP 2015? No need for that, it just works out of the box!You don't need to use the Touch Bar, and a one-ounce dongle doesn't "negate ... portability."
But feel free to avoid it based solely on principle.
simple question, what's more portable, a computer with ports and slots integrated, or one where you have to carry a bag of dongles for everything you want to connect?Perhaps the reason you're having so many issues making your point is because you seem to be choosing the wrong words. For example...
"By the time I get my computer, and all the other accessories needed to make it work, it's just not worth it and I end up leaving it all at home". -- That's "killing portability".
"Now there's one more thing I need to carry". -- That's "inconvenient".
Something that's clean, simple and doesn't require additional components is "well designed", NOT "portable".
Perhaps if you pick the right word, you'll get different responses.
CFexpress, QXD, CFast, CompactFlash are all pro formats. SD of course is also used, and soon SD Express.
Is the keyboard on this Macbook Pro smaller in side to accommodate for bigger speaker grills on the sides?
I cant help thinking compared to my own 2012 MBP i had in the past (with the same speaker grills) they are actually smaller and larger keyboard, while this 2019 MBP is smaller keyboard and larger grills
I'm kinda also surprised Apple decided t go "back" to this grill design, while you had a larger keyboard and no grills from recently.
Personally, i perfer the large keyboard anyday..
Please speak only for yourself and not for „us all“.I am highly considering getting this MBP instead of the upcoming Mac Pro. I like what Apple did here. I wish we could have a way of upgrading RAM and storage without the stupid soldering component strategy.
Apple could have made us all happy with a simple thing like that.